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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    surely you only need a wp if you are earning a salary out of the "business"?

    No, even the Phukket tsunami volunteers needed a WP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    surely you only need a wp if you are earning a salary out of the "business"?

    No, even the Phukket tsunami volunteers needed a WP.
    fukkem, then!

    paranoid pricks!
    how would a volunteer endanger a fkkn mat-weaver's job?
    i know that there are millions of farangs just waiting for the opportunity to become labourers, mat-weavers, buffalo tenders, etc in thailand, and i can understand the authorities' concern, since these are all highly sought-after thai proffessions, but volunteers,ffs!?
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    Knew some guys on Samui that got busted for no WP and they were only standing behind the bar talking to customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    ^Thats a list of banned occupations.
    I can't put anything past you these days

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    ^yeah, change your sig aswell.

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    Trying to squash the opposition I see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    All aliens engaged in any kind of work in Thailand must hold a valid work permit, issued principally by the Department of Employment of the Ministry of Labor and Social Welfare pursuant to the Alien Employment Act B.E. 2521 (A.D. 1978).
    Agree
    Even for volunteering, U still need to have the work permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickA View Post
    Trying to squash the opposition I see.

    All due respect Nicky, but that's not opposition....

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    I just purchased a quantity of Thai Baht.............do I need a work permit or my head examined ?

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    Item 30 in the list.....how do all the foreign contracters here get away with it then ??

    I know of many project managers and Archi's and designers etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    All aliens engaged in any kind of work in Thailand must hold a valid work permit, issued principally by the Department of Employment of the Ministry of Labor and Social Welfare pursuant to the Alien Employment Act B.E. 2521 (A.D. 1978).
    Tourist police volunteers don't need work permits.
    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    the local cops and i had a really bad history, hated each others' guts, and i am sure they would have taken great pleasure in nailing me if they knew how to
    If you had a really bad history and they 'hated your guts' then I doubt you would still be about to tell us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    All aliens engaged in any kind of work in Thailand must hold a valid work permit, issued principally by the Department of Employment of the Ministry of Labor and Social Welfare pursuant to the Alien Employment Act B.E. 2521 (A.D. 1978).
    Tourist police volunteers don't need work permits.
    That doesn't seem to be applied consistently. In some places it's not required but in Chiang Mai a work permit or permanent residence is required for all TP volunteers. TP volunteers have their volunteer work entered on their work permits as an occupation.
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    There were 2 guys, bar owners in Korat afraid of labour dept. and police visits...

    One of them was once even arrested, it was not his real wife, just a partner. His wife is running another bar in Jomtien, so i believe that you cannot work on another place then where you wife is ?!? Married to a Thai he is.

    The other one married in the temple only and not at the Amphoe. Was often visited by police always remembering him not to go back of the bar.

    banana republic, ok here and today, tomorow another story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12Call
    I just purchased a quantity of Thai Baht.............do I need a work permit or my head examined ?
    Both. Now about that loan you promised me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    Tourist police volunteers don't need work permits.
    Can you show a link to a Labout Dept which defines the exception?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunchie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 12Call
    I just purchased a quantity of Thai Baht.............do I need a work permit or my head examined ?
    Both. Now about that loan you promised me...

    Very lame............No hair has a few shillings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    the local cops and i had a really bad history, hated each others' guts, and i am sure they would have taken great pleasure in nailing me if they knew how to
    If you had a really bad history and they 'hated your guts' then I doubt you would still be about to tell us.
    oh, there were a few attempts made to "have me taken care of",
    i must admit that i "got lucky" on a couple of occasions
    but they are not really as tough as they make out they are.
    they feed on fear and take advantage of it, much like a dog will sense your fear and attack.
    if you keep your head, and stand up to them, they get confused and back down.

    a uniform and a gun, while it may make him walk taller, doesn't cure his inherent thai cowardice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wha ?
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    there goes my business plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wha ?
    33. manual cigarette rolling
    there goes my business plan
    coulda made a 'kkin fortune!!!

    i find the list of banned occupations bloody hilarious, and it makes me wonder about the intelligence of the author of the list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    oh, there were a few attempts made to "have me taken care of", i must admit that i "got lucky" on a couple of occasions but they are not really as tough as they make out they are. they feed on fear and take advantage of it, much like a dog will sense your fear and attack. if you keep your head, and stand up to them, they get confused and back down. a uniform and a gun, while it may make him walk taller, doesn't cure his inherent thai cowardice.

    ooooo 'er

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    oh, there were a few attempts made to "have me taken care of", i must admit that i "got lucky" on a couple of occasions but they are not really as tough as they make out they are. they feed on fear and take advantage of it, much like a dog will sense your fear and attack. if you keep your head, and stand up to them, they get confused and back down. a uniform and a gun, while it may make him walk taller, doesn't cure his inherent thai cowardice.

    ooooo 'er
    just 'coz you shit yourself for anything in a brown uniform, does not mean that the rest of us are fairies as well.
    i have been places and in situations that the likes of you and ant could not begin to imagine.
    i suppose being a cossetted "mommy's boy" could have it's advantages and i hope that you never end up in a situation for which you are so obviously unprepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post
    Guys I think we have been fed a load of bull for many years about work permits.

    I was talking to a good farang friend of mine and he mentioned that you do not need a w.p. to run a family business if it is not a prohibited occupation. Say a farang marries a Thai lady legally, gets a non immigrant O married visa and the two of them open a small restaurant or bar. Is a w.p. needed if he is cooking, cleaning up a, tending bar or managing?

    After our conversation, I began to question all the work permit scare stories we always here about. Jailed, deported, black listed from Thailand etc.

    So, I asked an immigration lawyer and an immigration officer (I know both of them pretty well) and they say no problem. They say if it is not an international company and the occupation is not prohibited then its ok. Nothing wrong with a married couple doing business. Now they did say that once you set up a company then you must get a w.p. as you WILL be working for a company. By doing this you are really screwing yourself. If you want to do a bar or a restaurant and work it together then do it. The police nor immigration will stop you.

    Now we all know plenty of married farangs that are running family businesses with their wives, but I do not know anyone that got arrested for doing it.

    Do you know anyone that got done for it?

    Any input from the TD team?
    It's also true that you do not need a work permit even if you're not married. You are restricted to the amount of work within the business though.

    Running a bar or restaurant is not a problem without a permit. You can check goods and takings for instance, but to serve from behind the bar is prohibited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    just 'coz you shit yourself for anything in a brown uniform, does not mean that the rest of us are fairies as well. i have been places and in situations that the likes of you and ant could not begin to imagine. i suppose being a cossetted "mommy's boy" could have it's advantages and i hope that you never end up in a situation for which you are so obviously unprepared.

    ooooo 'er

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    just 'coz you shit yourself for anything in a brown uniform, does not mean that the rest of us are fairies as well. i have been places and in situations that the likes of you and ant could not begin to imagine. i suppose being a cossetted "mommy's boy" could have it's advantages and i hope that you never end up in a situation for which you are so obviously unprepared.

    ooooo 'er
    err.......... getting back to the subject here......
    it DOES seem that it depends on WHERE one lives in thailand , whether one is going to pick up a plomplem or not:
    i remember watching a programme on thai tv, where they interviewed a farang and his wife, who were trying fishfarming, growing veg, etc, and the farang was the focus, and the "hero " of the story. he had lost everything and eventually, with the support of his thai wife, had picked himself up, and with a bit of innovation and improvisation , was making a modest life for himself and his family, and spoke reasonably decent thai.
    i am damn sure he had no wp; have no idea what kind of visa he was on, the point is that the cops left him alone to do his thing.
    there definitely seem to be differing standards applied in thailand and the wp thing.
    seems it is only a crime to work in thailand if someone percieves you to be making some money, and then sets the wheels in motion to have you closed down or deported.

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    ^It's generally not what you know but who you know, also it is a lot easier for them to extort money out of some dumb fuk who has only been here 6 months and gets pissed in his bar everyday than someone who speaks Thai and either does know high ups or is thought to know higher ups to the ones who do the extorting.

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