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    Scammers

    Received an email this morning from my bank telling me that I had changed my verisure password.

    Called them up and asked them what it was about, the link took me to their genuine home page.

    Some fucker had put a few small purchases on my card then tried for a big one from a childcare company, where they had failed the versure test, but managed to change my password.

    They had to have my card number, security number and name.

    Cannot think of anywhere that I could have used my card where they either saw the number or any recent online transactions.

    I use my local co-op a bit and the ATM outside once a month at best.

    So at some point somewhere somebody has managed to aquire this info from me.

    It's only cost 15 quid or so which I will get back.

    lucky though, checked this morning and there were two largish payments into my account that I thought weren;t coming until next week.

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    The world isn't ready for internet banking and having personal details on computers, most people don't know how to use them securely yet.

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    Haven't made any purchases online other than to Stagecoach bus company. which used the verisure system as well.

    It's happened in the UK, since KiddyCare is a uk company as it Play.com etc.

    It is possible that my local shops that I pay at have copied my details or the atm ouside has.

    Otherwise I'm at a loss as to how it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
    Otherwise I'm at a loss as to how it happened.
    don't forget all the processing companies that seem to cover up a data breach every second week

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    each bank only needs one bad apple

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    remember when the government lost all those bank details with the SS a few months ago ?

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    Doesn't half make you wonder when they aquired the number.

    If it was recently or not.

    Have they been sitting on it for a few months or have they just got it and used it straight away.

    If it's been recently that means that it's somewhere local, either the Co-OP ATM at the Co-OP or the petrol station. Only places I've used it in the last month.

    Once online for stagecoach.

    If it's a while back then that opens up a whole world of possiblities

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    I don't carry credit cards and have very little money in my ATM account because I do not trust existing security systems.

    There has been mention on this thread to bank over the internet, or in fact conduct any financial transaction by way of cyberspace is a huge risk due to the fact personal information and codes can be stolen.

    I agree wholeheartedly with these doubters and deal with most things > cash only.

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    I get paid by internet into one account and then transfer it by internet into another account, then go to the bank and withdraw it all and then put it into another account which has no internet banking connections whatsoever.







    Then the missus spends it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I don't carry credit cards and have very little money in my ATM account because I do not trust existing security systems.

    There has been mention on this thread to bank over the internet, or in fact conduct any financial transaction by way of cyberspace is a huge risk due to the fact personal information and codes can be stolen.

    I agree wholeheartedly with these doubters and deal with most things > cash only.
    Here's a clearly intelligent man. Good on ya, LT.

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    Probably the petrol station, i won't let anyone touch my card and they don't like being told to fuck off i'll do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    Probably the petrol station, i won't let anyone touch my card and they don't like being told to fuck off i'll do it!
    I'm suspicious as well.

    As I said, Stagecoach last online purchase in months, not sure why I didn't use my visa card for that, as I normally would.

    Co-Op - maybe, I have had a lot of problems with their machine before when paying.

    ATM outside Co-Op - I check it every time I use it, but I could easily have missed something.

    Petrol station - maybe again, used a new one on the motorway on Wednesday evening on the way home. Again, didn't hand it to anybody.

    UK has changed a lot. There is no need to hand my card to anybody anymore. Everything is done by those reader machines.

    The people managed to change my verisure password for visa though, which is why I was notified that something was wrong. As far as I can remember the verisure thing relies on you presetting up additional security, think it needs everything including security code on the bank. Then you have an additional password to the site.

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    There are keyloggers Corrupt bank officials and of course "friends and family Over the shoulder cameras and scammers knee deep stick to cash

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    The real scam? Buying into the system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    They had to have my card number, security number and name.

    Cannot think of anywhere that I could have used my card where they either saw the number or any recent online transactions.
    Just close the account and get the new one. This is what most people will do, just to be save.

    Personally I haven't had any problem with my cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    Received an email this morning from my bank telling me that I had changed my verisure password.

    Called them up and asked them what it was about, the link took me to their genuine home page.

    Some fucker had put a few small purchases on my card then tried for a big one from a childcare company, where they had failed the versure test, but managed to change my password.

    They had to have my card number, security number and name.

    Cannot think of anywhere that I could have used my card where they either saw the number or any recent online transactions.

    I use my local co-op a bit and the ATM outside once a month at best.

    So at some point somewhere somebody has managed to aquire this info from me.

    It's only cost 15 quid or so which I will get back.

    lucky though, checked this morning and there were two largish payments into my account that I thought weren;t coming until next week.
    I agree with what Loy Toy said, keep it cash unless it is imperative to do otherwise.

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    when you do any transactions at branch level, are you not 'net banking' anyway albiet on another level?, i have been scammed once, i reckon by a skimmer now i notify my bank of my travels before i go, and i hold my bank accountable for my funds security and its in their interest to look after me as i have told them on occasions of toing and froing for other bits and pieces, so these days they do seem to go the extra mile to look after me

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
    There is no need to hand my card to anybody anymore. Everything is done by those reader machines.
    That is what really gets me going, the slimey twats don't need to even touch my card but still try to get their sweaty little hands on it and they really don't like it when i tell them to fuck off and not go near it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    Probably the petrol station, i won't let anyone touch my card and they don't like being told to fuck off i'll do it!
    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke
    That is what really gets me going, the slimey twats don't need to even touch my card but still try to get their sweaty little hands on it and they really don't like it when i tell them to fuck off and not go near it!
    yeah, you said that

    they are probably just trying to help, so why are they slimey little twats?

    MrsQ, make sure the ATM is OK, no strange protuberances

    although the machine additions ar not used in the UK (as far as I know) they certainly are around in other countries

    getting your PIN is almost impossible unless someone you know has it. Sometimes they have security cameras that can see you input the numbers, make sure you cover it up
    I have reported your post

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    Quote . although the machine additions ar not used in the UK (as far as I know) .Lots of it in UK. Finextra: Barclays steps up crackdown on ATM skimmers

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    there you are then, I did not know very far

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    Cash is king.

    Only ever use my card at the ATM to get cash out.

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    I use my credit card all the time; it makes my life more exciting

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    the petrol station
    There's your culprit.

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