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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
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    as it's also quite enjoyable.
    Less so for the foxes I would have thought.
    I don't think the Iraqis enjoy it too much either ...
    I suppose the real difference is some people like foxes.......
    You're right. I remember my grand dad used to have a stuffed fox in the living room. I don't think my grand mother would have enjoyed a stuffed Iraqi on top of her dresser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    The farming community in UK has all but beeen destroyed by the labour government in a series of spiteful and vindictive legal measures. The law on hunting was nothing to do with animal rights and everthing to do with political one upmanship
    Spot on. Now that the visible deterrent to foxes harming farm-stock has gone, more foxes are being killed by landowners than ever before. The fox hunts' ratio of kills was pretty poor in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perota View Post
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    as it's also quite enjoyable.
    Less so for the foxes I would have thought.
    I don't think the Iraqis enjoy it too much either ...
    I suppose the real difference is some people like foxes.......
    You're right. I remember my grand dad used to have a stuffed fox in the living room. I don't think my grand mother would have enjoyed a stuffed Iraqi on top of her dresser.

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    If you eat meat or dairy which isn't free-range, you're participating in something much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Time to find some new hobbies.
    well I don't smoke so at least that's not a problem.

    but Thailand really is a nanny state compared to the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    If you eat meat or dairy which isn't free-range, you're participating in something much worse.
    What is your other nic's,
    Mustyclit or Horse doctor?? or both??

    plus they can't have free range in the supermarkets where we trade, costs to much to shovel the chicken and cow shit off the floors and people was slipping in it and falling, then suing the owners..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf View Post
    I think the fox-hunting ban is a bit harsh on the horses really. I'm sure the horses loved a good old run around over the hedges chasing the fox and the hounds must have had a jolly good day out too.
    Too fookin' right. I was once out riding a lovely little mare in the rolling hills of Northumbria when the hunt went past. The little devil heard the horn, pricked her ears then bolted after the beagles. Left me standing on a box in the middle of a field with my trousers round my ankles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    If you eat meat or dairy which isn't free-range, you're participating in something much worse.
    What is your other nic's,
    Mustyclit or Horse doctor?? or both??

    plus they can't have free range in the supermarkets where we trade, costs to much to shovel the chicken and cow shit off the floors and people was slipping in it and falling, then suing the owners..
    Unfortunately, both Google Translate and Babelfish seem to have their idiot redneck moron-to-English translation service off-line at the moment. Can you rephrase that in English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    If you eat meat or dairy which isn't free-range, you're participating in something much worse.
    Perhaps we should dig up some video showing just how cattle are slaughtered and processed for the food you eat... Like this one...



    Not so pretty, is it...

    All you hypocrites should fvck off or become vegetarians...

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    Thing is, that's to eat, it's not purely to be a twat.

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    It's all for the pleasure of the consumer. Blood sports do it because it's fun; the food industry does it because it saves them - and you - a little bit of money. I don't really think the first is that much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    Unfortunately, both Google Translate and Babelfish seem to have their idiot redneck moron-to-English translation service off-line at the moment. Can you rephrase that in English?
    No thats OK, if you can't think of anything to say, just say so or say nothing and keep us wondering just how stupid you are instead of posting some shit and removing all doubt.

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    Have you got anything to say which is germane to the subject or is it just another toss up between pointless belligerence and ball-achingly tedious stories about what you were doing when Napoleon invaded Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    If you eat meat or dairy which isn't free-range, you're participating in something much worse.
    Not really as the killing sheds are all pretty much the same free range or not. Not much point letting them have a bit more freedom and not stuffing chemicals into them if they are just going to get stunned and get their throats cut, unless it's halal of course where they miss the stunning out. If anyone eats any meat, free range or not, and whines about cruelty to animals they are just hypocrites or very naive.

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    There's a massive difference between the quality of life of (some) free-range meat and the mass produced stuff you pick up in Tescos.

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    Rodeo is hardly a blood sport, as apposed to big game hunting in Africa...

    As far as the OP, I am sure that you will find that more cowboys are injured in the rodeo business than cattle... Sure, there may be the occasional steer or calf injured, but many, many cowboys suffer broken ribs, neck, back, etc from bull riding... The cattle will wind up being food anyway...

    So why didn't you post the plight of the poor pigeons that are shot as sport or how hunters are raping nature???

    SHARK is just another PETA-like organization filled with hypocrites...

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    Calf roping is for wimps. When I go to a rodeo I skip all that crap and slide in just in time for the bull riding. Been to several in the stock yards in Ft. Worth, and a few in Wyoming, Montana and Colorado.


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    While browsing the youtube vids I came across on the Noodles might enjoy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    There's a massive difference between the quality of life of (some) free-range meat and the mass produced stuff you pick up in Tescos.

    Not much quality of life when they are dead though, they are all the same then. Rearing animals in any way to eat is a wasteful way to produce protein, the free range production is actually not always how people imagine it to be anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    So why didn't you post the plight of the poor pigeons that are shot as sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown
    While browsing the youtube vids I came across on the Noodles might enjoy.
    Gay American Rodeo, what next!

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    Not much quality of life when they are dead though, they are all the same then.
    That's confusing two different arguments. Whether or not it's right to kill for food is a different question to whether or not it's right to treat animals in any way we see fit. It's quite possible to believe - and argue - consistently that killing animals is not a problem and also believe that feed lots and factory farming of chickens is awful.
    Rearing animals in any way to eat is a wasteful way to produce protein,
    Yes and no. The kind of low-cost farming which is prevalent now is extremely wasteful. There's no doubt about that but certain types of farming aren't. Traditional mixed-farming, with animals slotted in around the edges can produce high-grade protein with very few extra costs. Hill farming also uses land which would otherwise be non-productive.
    the free range production is actually not always how people imagine it to be anyway.
    Again, some is and some isn't. The law in England allows eggs to be sold as free-range which are anything but if you look around you can find meat from animals which are well cared for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    The red fox (Vulpes vulpes) is a mammalian species indiginous to n America, Northern Europe, Eurasia and N Africa. It was introduced to Australia in the 1850s primarily for hunting.
    Chas fox hunting doesn't happen anymore in the UK as it has been outlawed.

    The Police are not now at the the local hunts which means they can do as they please.

    My mate the local 'Terrier man' down the pub is well chuffed.

    Bizzare.

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    I have been fox hunting...it is fun, tally ho and all that.

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