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    ' Spice ' as potent as cannabis

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    ‘Spice’ ban as tests show legal herbal drug is as potent as cannabis - Times Online

    Just my luck. Never even heard of it much less sampled it and now they're gonna ban it. I guess the thought of people staying home listening to music and munching out is a real threat to society.

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    A legal herbal drug which is sold around the country is to be banned after studies showed that it is as powerful as some strains of strong cannabis.
    Spice, a herbal smoking mixture, is sold on the internet and in “head shops” as a legal high and nicotine-free smoke. In some cases it is even advertised as an “aromatic pot pourri”.
    The smoking mixture, which has synthetic additives, comes slickly packaged in sealed pouches — holding just under an ounce — at a cost of about 30.
    Although it purports to be an entirely natural mix of herbs and plants including Baybean and vanilla, the marijuana-type high that users get from Spice comes from a synthetic cannabinoid four or five times as potent as THC, the main psyschoactive substance in cannabis.


    Today the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, the Government’s official drug adviser, will recommend to Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, that Spice be added to the list of prohibited drugs.
    Ministers are then expected to bring forward legislation in the autumn to ban the drug. The decision to recommend a ban on Spice is likely to be followed by action to outlaw other legal highs.
    Earlier this year Jacqui Smith, when she was Home Secretary, expressed her concern at the wide and largely unregulated market in alternative drugs that she said were being sold in “head shops” as so-called legal highs.
    Head shops are retailers specialising in drug paraphernalia and New Age herbs, as well as counter-culture magazines, music and clothing.
    Ms Smith specifically asked for advice on Spice, which had first been imported from China in 2006, before batches were seized in Sweden, Switzerland and Jersey. The drug was banned in Germany, Austria and France, early this year.
    Professor Leslie Iversen, chairman of the technical committee of the Advisory Council, said: “We all view this as being particularly serious. It is a very clever product, sold as a herbal smoking mixture from China, but containing chemicals which can be a lot more potent than cannabis.”
    He told the Oxford Mail: “Users have no idea what they are taking. As a result they are running a considerable risk of overdosing, which is not only unpleasant, but potentially quite dangerous.”
    Users tend to smoke Spice in joints with a bit of tobacco, as smokers do with cannabis. Unlike cannabis it takes some time to produce an effect.
    Early last year the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs early warning system, which links police, customs officials and drug specialists in the EU, identified a dozen online distributors, half of them based in Britain.
    Martin Barnes, chief executive of the charity DrugScope, said: “Spice products are deliberately manufactured to mimic the effects of cannabis, and the limited research available suggests that there are potential harms attached with their use.”
    He added: “Exploring control options for the substances could remove the incentive for the manufacture and supply of Spice as it would no longer be available as a legal alternative to cannabis.”
    Other 'legal highs'
    Salvia divinorum Rare plant found in Mexican mountains, smoked or chewed to give intense hallucinations. Drew controversy after suicide of American teenager who had used it. Banned in some US states and Australia
    Snow Blow Caffeine-based powder snorted to give an energetic, lively high. May cause dehydration and raise heart rate
    Mephedrone Marketed as “plant food”, 4-methylmethcathinone is a stimulant described as giving experiences similar to crystal meth. Banned in Sweden after death of 18-year old woman. Widespread popularity led Tayside police to warn clubbers about it last month
    Happy caps “Party pills” containing geranium extract and caffeine marketed to boost energy and “heighten awareness”
    Kratom Powdered extract from plants grown in Thailand. Narcotic with stimulant effects, though can work as sedative at higher doses with similar effects to opiates. Controlled in some areas of southeast Asia
    Sources: Shiva Head Shop, Herbal Highs, CoffeeSh0p, Research Chemicals, Times archive

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    people staying home listening to music and munching out is a real threat
    indeed ,

    the idea is to work all week earning the money to buy what you need come the week-end thus creating the demand for next weeks work.............

    sitting at home munching out will never do

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    I bet its still shit though.

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    Why do they bother? It's not as if there's anywhere in England where it's difficult to buy drugs.

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    Anyone tried Kratom?

    I remember mad dog started a thread on it, he was in someone's car with a big bag full, until someone told him it was very illegal here. Threw it out of the window and asked for the thread to be deleted straight away.

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    Been following that spice stuff for a while now. It's been in and out of various news items and publications.

    30 quid gets you about 3.5g of it. Prett pricey.

    A mate who is a heavy smoker thinks it's not bad, he's bought some of the Afghan look a like to test as well.

    Syntetic cannibanoids sprayed on it. Not sure I like that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Why do they bother? It's not as if there's anywhere in England where it's difficult to buy drugs.
    Yes, why do they bother with this nonsense. Total hypocracy. On the one hand they feign concern for peoples health and underline the ' dangers ' etc , then they change the laws to allow pubs to stay open longer so as to stagger the number of pissheads being turfed out onto the street at any one time with a view to reducing the amount of disorderly behavior joe public has to tolerate in the early hours of the morning. Get real. Either clamp down on alcohol abuse or give it a rest.


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    30 quid gets you about 3.5g of it. Prett pricey.
    That is expensive. Cheaper to get 3.5 g of some high grade skunk and I have my doubts 'spice' is stronger than that.

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