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    Witch Hunt

    I have just been watching a documetary - Witch Hunt- and this is one of the most disturbing documteries I have ever seen.

    Anyone seen this?

    Anyone understand this?

    on one hand I feel for the parents if they were falsely accused, but on the other...why in world would your kids accuse you of molesting them?

    Another movie to go into the X files box!

    And, can anyone explain to me the "logic" of allowing parole for these people in 2110? - are Americans completely crazy? Yes M' lord, I am 250 years old..I request parole!
    What a fucked up country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post

    And, can anyone explain to me the "logic" of allowing parole for these people in 2110? - are Americans completely crazy? Yes M' lord, I am 250 years old..I request parole!
    What a fucked up country!
    That's a way of making sure people stay in jail until they die. If somebody is sentenced to life they can still be released after a few years, if somebody is sentenced to life with no parole allowed for 100 years or so then they will stay in prison for the term of their natural life.
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    I really don't see the point of sentencing a 50 year old to 250 years in jail?
    I thought the whole point was to re educate or whatever, if this is re education then I am dumbfounded - it's like the sickest punishment you can get - Even if you lived 300 years - you are not getting out!

    The USA is a sick country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    I really don't see the point of sentencing a 50 year old to 250 years in jail?
    I thought the whole point was to re educate or whatever, if this is re education then I am dumbfounded - it's like the sickest punishment you can get - Even if you lived 300 years - you are not getting out!

    The USA is a sick country!
    Sometimes, but very rarely, the point of prison is re-education, most times it's punishment, the punishment being loss of freedom, and sometimes it's to protect the public from the people jailed. I haven't seen the documentary in your OP so I can't comment on that but I do know that there are some people who are so dangerous to the public that they can never be released.

    I just had a quick look at a description of "Witch Hunt", sounds very much like what happened in that town was similar to some of the paedophile scares in the UK back in the 80's and 90's. Looks like there isn't that much difference between CPS in the US and Social Services in the UK. What was that one where huge numbers of people were accused of being part of a ritual Satanic child-abuse cult?

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    Well, the nut-jobs would really get wound up if the US executed these folks, so the next best thing is to be assured they will never be a menace to society again... Thus, life in prison without the opportunity for parole, or a mandatory 100 year sentence, then you qualify for parole... If you die in the mean time, so be it...

    IMHO, the death penalty is justified in certain cases... Whether humanely applied or not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    I really don't see the point of sentencing a 50 year old to 250 years in jail?
    I thought the whole point was to re educate or whatever, if this is re education then I am dumbfounded - it's like the sickest punishment you can get - Even if you lived 300 years - you are not getting out!

    The USA is a sick country!
    Sometimes, but very rarely, the point of prison is re-education, most times it's punishment, the punishment being loss of freedom, and sometimes it's to protect the public from the people jailed. I haven't seen the documentary in your OP so I can't comment on that but I do know that there are some people who are so dangerous to the public that they can never be released.

    I just had a quick look at a description of "Witch Hunt", sounds very much like what happened in that town was similar to some of the paedophile scares in the UK back in the 80's and 90's. Looks like there isn't that much difference between CPS in the US and Social Services in the UK. What was that one where huge numbers of people were accused of being part of a ritual Satanic child-abuse cult?
    Some of the families were even witnessed as "stabbing" their kids to death in a satanic ritual - but the supposed victim is and was still alive and under protective custody!

    They brought up a group of grown ups (in their '30's who admitted that they lied about the molestation charges - but they still had accounts from their OWN kids who were not 15 year old that said they did molest them - really - it is a disturbing documentary - whether they were guilty or not!)

    If you get a chance, try and get a copy - there is no even keel to this, nothing is cut and dried, I still cannot decide what is what with this.

    I can understand the FBI and the police framing people for a conviction, what I cannot understand is why their own kids fingered them for molestation!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    on one hand I feel for the parents if they were falsely accused, but on the other...why in world would your kids accuse you of molesting them?
    Because kids hate their parents. They are the authority who makes them go to school, do homework, eat broccoli, go to bed early instead of watching movies on TV.
    Given power, they would exact their revenge.
    Such power is given to them by social services freaks who incite them to accuse their parents of sex abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wefearourdespot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    on one hand I feel for the parents if they were falsely accused, but on the other...why in world would your kids accuse you of molesting them?
    Because kids hate their parents. They are the authority who makes them go to school, do homework, eat broccoli, go to bed early instead of watching movies on TV.
    Given power, they would exact their revenge.
    Such power is given to them by social services freaks who incite them to accuse their parents of sex abuse.
    Bingo
    That's one way of looking at it!

    But come on... could you imagine your own kids saying you tried to fuck them? Sorry...not me!

    I do however accept what you say about social services, Political Correctness gone mad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    The USA is a sick country!
    Completely feminazi fucked up indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wefearourdespot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    The USA is a sick country!
    Completely feminazi fucked up indeed.
    Then go and look at another documentary "The Crips and the Bloods - Made In America" thousands of people killed over the past few years - then link that with SICKO - and Bowling for Columbine by Moore, (sadly he shoots himself in the foot a few times when he discusses the "multicultural population of Canada/Europe compared to the USA - he describes the situation as similar - whereinfact the USA is completely the oppositte!

    then you start to see what is wrong with the USA -" normal " countries have gun deaths in the region of less than 100 per million - GB=65 per year, USA 11000!!!

    He states that Canada's "mixed race population is 13% non white - and compares this to the USA where the USA is soon to become 13% white! - but if you wade through the crap and bias - there is a bit of a picture as to why the USA is such a mess! (no it's not a racist theme - it's a government thing based on fear - then go get the video "Killing Room" just to restore your faith!

    Count the numbers -these "African Americans" (Bloods/Crips) have killed 5 times the ammount of people killed in Northern Ireland - The Brits sent the troops in - the USA it's "normal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wefearourdespot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    The USA is a sick country!
    Completely feminazi fucked up indeed.
    And if you want a good summary of Thailand - go watch "Monty Pythons' Holy Grail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
    I really don't see the point of sentencing a 50 year old to 250 years in jail?
    I thought the whole point was to re educate or whatever, if this is re education then I am dumbfounded - it's like the sickest punishment you can get - Even if you lived 300 years - you are not getting out!

    The USA is a sick country!
    What would you prefer? That they shoot them, or otherwise put them to death? Then you'd be wailing of how sick they are for that.

    These long type of sentences, as DrBob explained, are there to prevent the possibility of an early release (same reason why Bernie Madoff received a 150 year sentence), and are the result of what is known as cumulative sentencing. Thus, if a count of 'crime X' is good for a maximum of 25 years in prison, by having the perp sentenced for 10 counts of 'Crime X', you end up with this kind of sentence - especially if the law says (and again, I'm making up these illustrative examples) that for a 25 year sentence, they would be eligible for parole in 10 years.

    Additionally, by having such 'stacked' sentences, it requires each individual sentence to be appealed, so even the legal process would not allow an early release in this manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    He states that Canada's "mixed race population is 13% non white - and compares this to the USA where the USA is soon to become 13% white!
    Then either he or you are a complete fuck-knuckle (I'd say it was you, going on past experience) because 74% of US citizens are white.

    Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    can anyone explain to me the "logic" of allowing parole for these people in 2110? - are Americans completely crazy? Yes M' lord, I am 250 years old..I request parole!
    Lets say you are serving a life sentence for a serious crime, now you have been in the pen for say a month. Then some guy comes up to you and kills you....
    you are pronounced dead. Then some other guy comes over and revives you with CPR... Now your alive!. You have now effectively served a life sentence.

    You are free to go.

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    If USA keeps on this path its going to end up with more people in jail than on the outside. Not that I think that would bother the Yanks mind you. More guns for those who are free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins
    He states that Canada's "mixed race population is 13% non white - and compares this to the USA where the USA is soon to become 13% white!
    Then either he or you are a complete fuck-knuckle (I'd say it was you, going on past experience) because 74% of US citizens are white.

    Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And Wikipedia is the "source" of all knowledge? That unbiased - freely edited (by virtually anyone web site)

    If you take into account Hispanics - then you get down to a 68%, (US census 2008), also there are 1.6% that register 2 racial groups.

    But this is really trying to figure out why there is such an imbalance in the numbers of gun murders in the US compared to anywhere else in the world.

    If you watch that documentary - which is decidedly biased towards the "poor held back minorities) "Crips and Bloods" it sheds a bit of light on the mentality of these gun totting idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    If USA keeps on this path its going to end up with more people in jail than on the outside. Not that I think that would bother the Yanks mind you. More guns for those who are free.
    And wait a few years - gun ownership (my thoughts) is going to get drastically reduced, this "Patriot" shit is already gnawing away at every right the public have!
    I personally think that within a few years there will be some major bloodbaths over there.

    The government already has the majority of the public in a state of paranoia, keep up the fear factor, and keep taking away personal freedom.

    It seems to me the crunch will come when the government cross that fine line (which I thought had already been crossed) and then the real headcases turn out "From My Cold Dead Hands!" brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytoons View Post
    can anyone explain to me the "logic" of allowing parole for these people in 2110? - are Americans completely crazy? Yes M' lord, I am 250 years old..I request parole!
    Lets say you are serving a life sentence for a serious crime, now you have been in the pen for say a month. Then some guy comes up to you and kills you....
    you are pronounced dead. Then some other guy comes over and revives you with CPR... Now your alive!. You have now effectively served a life sentence.

    You are free to go.
    Is that a fact? or are you just playing around.
    I can see what you mean - providing you got a doctors certified death certificate - and by the time you got that - I doubt you would be in any state for revival.
    Nah, the US is a sick sick country, it's a disaster, thank god I would never have to go there if I was fed up of this other disaster country. (what percentage of Americans commit suicide outside of there home country?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missismiggins View Post
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    Thanks,
    trying to get it now, but struggling with this BBC Iplayer
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    You can download as torrent,

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsalleh View Post
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    Thanks,
    trying to get it now, but struggling with this BBC Iplayer
    It says no longer available!

    "The computer say noooo!"
    You can download as torrent,

    http://bittorrent.am/download.php?id...iD%20NOsegmenT
    Thanks - I'll have a look!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
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    Sticking 11 year olds kids dicks in tubes!!! and he is going to show how he can be a better citizen!

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    The Americans are talking about how they reduced masturbation! - The UK would deny they ever did it!

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