Australia verses the UK.

**Marmite the Dog** · 07-03-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I know some blokes who still go on about a world cup win about 6 years ago!

I was going to mention the QF in 2007. The Aussie I was with went mental that night (and he wasn't even born there *shock* *horror*).

**Loy Toy** · 07-03-2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The Aussie I was with went mental that night (and he wasn't even born there *shock* *horror*

Turncoats are always questionable at the best of times Marmers!

**Gallowspole** · 07-03-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Gallowspole

Flouncing is a noticable Aussie trait - often as a result of piss taking or getting beaten in the Ashes, mass exoduses from pubs shouting 'yah can all go and get fucked yah fuckin' pommie cunts' are not uncommon. It's only a game for feks sake - sort it out with your fists like real UK supporters do with rival supporters.

Good post mate but this paragraph is the only one I don't agree with.

Aussies would prefer to see a closely fought game or even to lose rather than to win comprehensively everytime.

I know some blokes who still go on about a world cup win about 6 years ago!

Furthermore most aussies would be happy to meet up with the opposing fans in a pub afterwards, pat them on the back and congratulate them on a good win.

Don't know what place in Oz you lived but I have rarely seen bad sportsmanship from an Aussie. In fact that underarm bowling shit still makes most aussies sick with embarrasment.

To be honest that was me just kidding (see in my post about taking the piss and going off on high horses

) but we do have a couple of Aussies up here who got really upset at that distant Ashes loss and didn't stick around for the free buffet and beers put on by the gracious host. In Sydney I had a fantastic time when the Hill was still there. Loads and loads of friendly banter and beer showers
between us and the locals as well as with the players down on the boundary.

**chassamui** · 07-03-2009, 07:24 PM

I agree with Marmite's earlier post except for one thing. As far as resouces go we also have millions of tons of coal. One day soon it will be valuable enough to start digging it up again. Problem is we won't have any miners left to do it so the government will have to sell the mineral rights to the Chinese. (Just like they are doing in Oz right now)

**November Rain** · 07-03-2009, 08:46 PM

I'd never bash Australia. It's the only place that throughout my entire life I've wanted to live. So, anyone want to sponsor an over-the-hill Pommie Sheila and a little Thai lad???

Didn't think so...

**chassamui** · 07-03-2009, 09:06 PM

Stay where you are NR. My UK based Aussie mate, (the one who can do joined up writing) tells me Oz is getting worse than UK for the nanny state stuff that annoys the brits so much. Too much don't do this, don't do that. As if we haven't got a mind of our own to make up. I much prefer the 'Up to you' culture.

**peterpan** · 07-03-2009, 09:08 PM

You missed one LT, fat cvnts, Australia is right up there with fat lard arses, beaten by Yanks but only just and within a couple of years the Ozzies will be ahead.

**peterpan** · 07-03-2009, 09:12 PM

and another one, partic in the northern states, old birds with leathery skin.
My Mum lives in Queensland, when I go back there the amount of women with faces and arms that have the texture of an elephants arse amaze me.

**Nawty** · 07-03-2009, 09:16 PM

The problem with this thread is that there is no Oz vs UK....it is simply OZ....nothing else compares.

**astasinim** · 08-03-2009, 01:52 AM

Right. Before I get started, from what I know, I reckon Aus probably wins. Got that bit out of the way.

However

Originally Posted by Gallowspole

Mateship is something Aussies are quite rightly proud of and I'd say I have more really good Aussie mates than Brits although some of them are a bit slow when it comes to having the friendly piss taken out of them. They often think it's real criticism and then go off on their high horse complaining about whinging poms.

A pal of mine was working out in Aus last year. He was in the chip shop one evening, when he received his order, the guy over the counter said "there you go, you pommie b`stard" (no problem, just taking the piss right?) whereby my pals reply was "Cheers you Aussie c*nt". Well the Aussie guy went balistic over this, and started ranting like a good un. It wasnt the first time, or last, that this happened to him. He thought it was all hillarious, as Aussies are suposed to love winding folk up and taking the piss.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

1. Climate: Enough said about that one

Yep. No contest there.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

2. Natural Resources: We have minerals and natural resources that the whole world envies.

Granted, but, we have them too, just not to the same degree, but, we are about one tenth the size of Aus.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

3. Food: I have had relatives that stand in awe in front of butcher and fruit/ vegetable shops looking at our produce and marvelling at how cheap the prices are.

Theres nothing I cant get my hands on over here. The more exotic the more you pay though.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

4. Community harmony: Although we have our problems with racial matters largely our communities live harmoniously and when compared to what I have been told about what goes down back in the UK.

All you here about is news from towns and cities. Next time your in the UK, and oooop north, drop me a line, and I`ll show you some of the country life, with decent people and great real beer, in a decent pub.

Ive never been anywhere in the world that has the same warm, cosy, friendly feeling, that the local UK pub has.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

5. Beaches and public parks: Aussies have been deemed as probably the most successful sporting nation on this earth and when looking at head of population ratios. Where I lived you could walk straight out your front door and within 500 metres walk into a public park, onto a sporting field or public bathes. Our beaches are unbelievable and have sand not rocks and peebles.

Yep, you got that one hands down.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

6. Great Education facilities: Smaller classes (students per room) than most western countries and the teaching facilities are mostly world class.

I`ll take your word on it, as ive no idea.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

7. Cost of living: Based upon my last trip to Oz and when compared to my last nigtmare trip to the UK Australia's cost of living is a fraction and when compared to living in the UK.

Not what im hearing from friends that have emmigrated out to Aus. They reakon its only slightly cheeper.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

8. Housing: Well you have to go there and to experince yourself about how cheap the houses are and how well they are built and according to the climate we live in.

Depends where in Aus you are. Near the bridge in Sydney, costs the earth ive heard. However, for what ive paid for my house, I could have one almost three times the size in Perth.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

9. Social benefits: Well NZ doesn't even provide the type of social welfare we offer and that's why you have more Kiwis in Australia then they have in New Zealand.

Ive got three mates that emmigrated to NZ, and they rate it better than Aus, but I think thtat could be a matter of taste.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

10. Strategic global positioning: Right at the hub and with regard to long term co-operation with the fastest growing economic region on this earth. Plus only 8 hours flight away from LOS for me!

Well thats all relative aint it.

After all that, I still reakon Aus wins over.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I spent 25 quid to go from Heathrow to a small hotel on the M6 in one of those Black Cabs.

Thats where you made the mistake matey. You got a black and white. Your gonna get your arse slapped whenever you get in one of those things. Order a minicab next time.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Buy a cup of tea and some scones in London and you almost gotta go for a loan.

Thats london for ya.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

With you 100% on this one LT. It's shocking.
I've been asked for 3 quid for a coffee. 12 quid for a sandwich. the place has gone to pieces. 7 quid for a pack of smokes!

Where the bloody hell were you? The Savoy?
The going rate in Leeds is about £2 for a coffee, about the same for a decant handmade sarnie, and about £5.50 for smokes.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

My old man does a weekly shop at his local Tescos.
each week it's 100 quid plus. a single bloke and he's not buying caviar.

What is he buying there? Its costs roughly the same for three of us, and I aint buying crap either.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

I was astonished the last time I went back to the UK. A night out = take your credit card.

At £2.30 a pint, I can go out with £30 and still have change. Its cost me a lot more in Thailand before, drinking those half pint bottles of piss.

Again, I still think Aus comes out on top, from what I know. Mind you, pretty much anywhere beats the UK at the moment. (note to self. Must remain optimistic)

**EmperorTud** · 08-03-2009, 02:08 AM

1. Climate: Enough said about that one
Aus edges it. Can be too hot and suffocating in summer though.

2. Natural Resources: We have minerals and natural resources that the whole world envies.
But no water. Aus still wins though.

3. Food: I have had relatives that stand in awe in front of butcher and fruit/ vegetable shops looking at our produce and marvelling at how cheap the prices are.
Your supermarkets are a quarter of the size of those even in Scotland. Produce is good quality in both countries, however the immigrant population in the UK has brought with it some of the finest cuisine available. Proximity to Europe and the cuisine of France and Italy also a bonus.
UK just edges that one although the diet of most Britons leaves a lot to be desired.

4. Community harmony: Although we have our problems with racial matters largely our communities live harmoniously and when compared to what I have been told about what goes down back in the UK.
Depends where you live in the UK. You've had race riots in the news Australia so I'm afraid UK wins this one.

5. Beaches and public parks: Aussies have been deemed as probably the most successful sporting nation on this earth and when looking at head of population ratios. Where I lived you could walk straight out your front door and within 500 metres walk into a public park, onto a sporting field or public bathes. Our beaches are unbelievable and have sand not rocks and peebles.
Beaches Aus wins obviously, public parks and accessible green countryside UK wins by the proverbial country mile. A draw.

6. Great Education facilities: Smaller classes (students per room) than most western countries and the teaching facilities are mostly world class.
UK is still where I'd rather have my children educated specifically in Scotland which trumps both England and Aus for quality of education. Universities and top schools UK is still ahead by some margin.

7. Cost of living: Based upon my last trip to Oz and when compared to my last nigtmare trip to the UK Australia's cost of living is a fraction and when compared to living in the UK.
Australia is cheaper but you get what you pay for in both countries.
Another point for Aus.

8. Housing: Well you have to go there and to experince yourself about how cheap the houses are and how well they are built and according to the climate we live in.
Oversized garden sheds and outside dunnies are not my idea of housing. My Aussie mate asked me what wood we used to build our houses in Scotland. I told him bricks and mortar were the materials used.
UK wins.

9. Social benefits: Well NZ doesn't even provide the type of social welfare we offer and that's why you have more Kiwis in Australia then they have in New Zealand.
Everyone is scrounging the dole in the UK.
If you want some asylum seekers, refugees or Eastern Europeans to relieve us of the burden just ask.
UK has a benefit culture!

10. Strategic global positioning: Right at the hub and with regard to long term co-operation with the fastest growing economic region on this earth. Plus only 8 hours flight away from LOS for me!
At the hub? You're miles away from anywhere and anyone else! A good thing? Perhaps, but the UK still wins due to its proximity to Europe and easier accessibility overall.

**Propagator** · 08-03-2009, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Australia verses the UK.

What you going to do Loy Toy, write us some poems

**chassamui** · 08-03-2009, 02:16 AM

All you here about is news from towns and cities. Next time your in the UK, and oooop north, drop me a line, and I`ll show you some of the country life, with decent people and great real beer, in a decent pub.

Ive never been anywhere in the world that has the same warm, cosy, friendly feeling, that the local UK pub has.

The local pubs won't be there much longer, they are closing down so quick the only people making money are the firms that are boarding them up.
The only pub chain making money is Wetherspoons. Bar meal and a pint for a fiver.
The other pubs can't compete with supermarket drink prices and the smoking ban has not helped either. Add a big lump of credit crunch and the pubs are gone.

**dirtydog** · 08-03-2009, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by peterpan

when I go back there the amount of women with faces and arms that have the texture of an elephants arse amaze me.

I thought they were a different breed of Aussies, looks bloody horrid.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Less than 100 bht for a shirt ?

Proper shirts jj, not stuff where if I was walking along the street in Chicago people would be coming up to me offering me a dollar to buy a cup of coffee.

**astasinim** · 08-03-2009, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by chassamui

All you here about is news from towns and cities. Next time your in the UK, and oooop north, drop me a line, and I`ll show you some of the country life, with decent people and great real beer, in a decent pub.

Ive never been anywhere in the world that has the same warm, cosy, friendly feeling, that the local UK pub has.

The local pubs won't be there much longer, they are closing down so quick the only people making money are the firms that are boarding them up.
The only pub chain making money is Wetherspoons. Bar meal and a pint for a fiver.
The other pubs can't compete with supermarket drink prices and the smoking ban has not helped either. Add a big lump of credit crunch and the pubs are gone.

Free houses are still doing a good trade round my way. None of that food crap, just good old fashioned real beer, thats appreciated by its drinkers.

**Loy Toy** · 08-03-2009, 02:45 AM

I am over the moon regarding the time some people have taken to respond to the thread.

Once I get my bearings tomorrow (sometime) I will be happy to respond to your replies (especially Tuds

) as I love a good debate with a proud and articulate Scotsman.

Unitl then goodnight and may god protect all those Kangaroo's and Koala Bears out there!

**Loy Toy** · 08-03-2009, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Propagator

What you going to do Loy Toy, write us some poems

We originally are from the brazen land.

That rightly or wrongly deemed us baned!

On boats we sailed across the seas.

With sickness and scurvy we were on knees.

When Sydney harbour come into view.

All those in the know could see their lives start anew.

With gusto and pride our forefathers took the land.

And now we can say those pommy coonts are banned.

Suck eggs............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**English Noodles** · 08-03-2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I spent 25 quid to go from Heathrow to a small hotel on the M6 in one of those Black Cabs. No more than a 15 minute trip!

Originally Posted by jandajoy

With you 100% on this one LT. It's shocking.

Considering the M6 is about 105 miles from Heathrow airport I think thats a great deal, and 15 mins, WOW! Now thats sevice.

**melvbot** · 08-03-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by astasinim

A pal of mine was working out in Aus last year. He was in the chip shop one evening, when he received his order, the guy over the counter said "there you go, you pommie b`stard" (no problem, just taking the piss right?) whereby my pals reply was "Cheers you Aussie c*nt". Well the Aussie guy went balistic over this, and started ranting like a good un. It wasnt the first time, or last, that this happened to him. He thought it was all hillarious, as Aussies are suposed to love winding folk up and taking the piss.

Ive had similar experiences with a few Aussies here. One is a bit of a redneck, kunt is his every other word. Loves taking the piss but as soon as you throw it back or prove him wrong his attitude changes and the bottom lip starts to tremble.

**English Noodles** · 08-03-2009, 01:19 PM

There was an Aussie guy became a bit of a regular in my local in Bangkok, a very small place and most the guys who get in there are Brits, Aussie was trying to take the piss out of the Brits, got some shit back and started crying, I mean tears coming from is eyes sobbing, saying that the Brits were picking on him because he was from Oz.

**Loy Toy** · 08-03-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

4. Community harmony: Although we have our problems with racial matters largely our communities live harmoniously and when compared to what I have been told about what goes down back in the UK. Depends where you live in the UK. You've had race riots in the news Australia so I'm afraid UK wins this one.

We have had one major riot, nobody was killed and between mainly youths and over the course of a weekend.

Pretty much on line with what happens at the end of some English football games and after the final whistle.

Australians, and according to their nature welcome everyone as long as they try to fit in, don't cause trouble and especially don't run in gangs beating up a single defenseless beach inspector. That was the catalyst for that riot and the Eastern Europeans who gang bashed that poor bloke had been trying to instill this type of event and for some time.

Again and according to what I am told by my British mates Australia seems to be a far safer place to live in and with generally good community harmony across the board.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

8. Housing: Well you have to go there and to experince yourself about how cheap the houses are and how well they are built and according to the climate we live in. Oversized garden sheds and outside dunnies are not my idea of housing. My Aussie mate asked me what wood we used to build our houses in Scotland. I told him bricks and mortar were the materials used. UK wins.

Again we build houses according to our climate and whilst we do use wood for our framework the houses are not of poor quality and most houses have shitters in the house now.

In fact my best mate here from Bristol owns one of the largest construction companies in England and he uses wooden and composite materials for house framework.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Beaches Aus wins obviously, public parks and accessible green countryside UK wins by the proverbial country mile. A draw.

Well I have to agree there is some very beautiful countryside in the UK and that is when you can see it through the mist and sleet.

Within 30 minutes drive from the centre of Sydney you can be in any number of amazing national parks and Sydney is far and away the most built-up city in Australia.

I have never been to Scotland or Ireland but Wales is very beautiful and England, especially around Windsor is a picture postcard.

Then again I was working in Slough and to be fair to say it is grim there would be an understatement.

Anyway thanks for your response Tuddy! Brilliant.

**Loy Toy** · 08-03-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Considering the M6 is about 105 miles from Heathrow airport I think thats a great deal, and 15 mins, WOW! Now thats sevice.

Well it was the M "something or other" and the main highway leading into London.

**Loy Toy** · 08-03-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

There was an Aussie guy became a bit of a regular in my local in Bangkok, a very small place and most the guys who get in there are Brits, Aussie was trying to take the piss out of the Brits, got some shit back and started crying, I mean tears coming from is eyes sobbing, saying that the Brits were picking on him because he was from Oz.

Well you do get soppy coonts from every race of people and obviously this Aussie was one.

Where a drank in Bangkok I was one of the only Aussies to drink there and the amount of shit I got at the start was painful particularly delivered by the Poms that drank there.

Just gave as good as what I received and things slowly got better.

Then again I always likes it when a Scot, Irishman or a Welshman come into the bar because they then copped most of the sledging!

(or better still a scouser)

**Mr Pot** · 08-03-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Mr Pot

one problem however.......Australian people

Don't be overawed by them mate!

We accept anyone and if they don't take the piss.

Originally Posted by Mr Pot

Yes the UK is shite and I've vowed never to return

Exactly what most other Brits have told me also but why all this Aussie bashing and when their own house is an absolute shithole.

To be honest most Aussies have a great sense of humour, I like the if you can't take it don't give it attitude and sarcasm.

The only bad Australian customers I've ever had are the younger ones who have taken on the extremely rude chav attidute which you find in the UK. had some young Aussie with the worst manners I'd ever come across over here - coughing on my beer, swearing loudly in front of customers and staff and just being a loudmouth twat. Strangly enough these characters always seem to come from Sydney with the exception of King Willy of course

The last bash is of course the pome insult which frankly holds no bearing anymore in my or most likely all UK citizens who really don't give a shit. It's also strange to call a Uk expat a pome when that person no longer lives there.

**Jack meoff** · 08-03-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Considering the M6 is about 105 miles from Heathrow airport I think thats a great deal, and 15 mins, WOW! Now thats sevice.

Well it was the M "something or other" and the main highway leading into London.

Good job you didn't rent a car then LT

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