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    Is this misogynist or chauvinistic?

    I recently saw a report on the Russian, former Soviet Embassy in Berlin.

    They have a reception hall with huge crystal chandeliers, that need to be cleaned thoroughly once a year.

    It is traditional that the cleaning staff is not allowed to do it. Those precious chandeliers are cleaned by the wifes of the top diplomats.

    I like that.
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    Go Russia!

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    I worry about cleaning staff messing with my chandeliers too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bkkmadness
    I worry about cleaning staff messing with my chandeliers too.
    I must admit, I have an antique grandfather clock hanging on the wall, noone touches it except me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    I must admit, I have an antique grandfather clock hanging on the wall, noone touches it except me.





    As for the OP, not misogynistic. Maybe chauvinistic, but let's face it, it doesn't hurt for those ladies to give something back in return for their privileged lifestyles. I'm sure those in full-time employment are let off.

    What happens if the diplomat is a female? Does hubby need to clean the lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    I must admit, I have an antique grandfather clock hanging on the wall, noone touches it except me
    Grandfather clocks stand on the floor Willy. They don't hang on walls.

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    Having the chandeliers cleaned by the wives of diplomats won't erase the memory of the mass rapes and other atrocities committed by Russian soldiers during the fall of Berlin in 1945.

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    Tuddy, you're not seriously trying to tell us that similar atrocities were not committed by Germans on their earlier march East?

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Tuddy, you're not seriously trying to tell us that similar atrocities were not committed by Germans on their earlier march East?
    The Germans were a far more organised and orderly military unit and discipline did not completely deteriorate as it did in the Red Army during the fall of Berlin where hundreds of thousands of civilians were raped and murdered.

    Naturally, similar atrocities occurred on both sides but not to the extent they did by the Red Army on the ground in Berlin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud
    The Germans were a far more organised and orderly military unit and discipline did not completely deteriorate
    No, it was documented thoroughly (as in the concentration camps) and then documents shredded when it became clear defeat was iminent.

    You are undoubtedly right in the numbers. However, neither side was blameless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    Grandfather clocks stand on the floor Willy. They don't hang on walls.
    He's getting on a bit, the old eyesight is going. He thinks things above head height are wall hung or usng that new fangled technology, you know, levitation!

    I'd love to see KW get his head around my perputual motion machine! Hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    What happens if the diplomat is a female? Does hubby need to clean the lights?
    I was thinking about that too. I doubt that they would be involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Tuddy, you're not seriously trying to tell us that similar atrocities were not committed by Germans on their earlier march East?
    The Germans were a far more organised and orderly military unit and discipline did not completely deteriorate as it did in the Red Army during the fall of Berlin where hundreds of thousands of civilians were raped and murdered.

    Naturally, similar atrocities occurred on both sides but not to the extent they did by the Red Army on the ground in Berlin.
    I think what happened in Berlin at the time was almost organized and very widespread.

    I doubt that the same happened to any extent near that by the german army. However there were many well organized killings and also rapes especially by the SS units as far as I know. And those were intended and organized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    What happens if the diplomat is a female? Does hubby need to clean the lights?
    a mate of mine was here on the basis of his wife's diplomatic job, he was an unemployed engineer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    Grandfather clocks stand on the floor Willy. They don't hang on walls.
    so what do you call wall clock ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by filch
    He's getting on a bit, the old eyesight is going. He thinks things above head height are wall hung or usng that new fangled technology, you know, levitation! I'd love to see KW get his head around my perputual motion machine! Hehe
    is it solar powered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    so what do you call wall clock ones?
    clocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Tuddy, you're not seriously trying to tell us that similar atrocities were not committed by Germans on their earlier march East?
    The Germans were a far more organised and orderly military unit and discipline did not completely deteriorate as it did in the Red Army during the fall of Berlin where hundreds of thousands of civilians were raped and murdered.

    Naturally, similar atrocities occurred on both sides but not to the extent they did by the Red Army on the ground in Berlin.
    Does that mean there's a lot of Russians around that think they're German?

    Do Russians eat dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    so what do you call wall clock ones?
    clocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    is it solar powered?
    Wouldn't technically be a perpetual motion machine if it was - it's based on Bhaskara II's model.

    But obviously I can't go into to detail here, still waiting for the patent papers!

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    Probably just tradition {cultural}. Not politically or politically correct attatchments.

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