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    I've been bribed!!

    So I get home last night and there's a DHL bag from my Pakistani agent waiting for me with the security guards at the gate.
    He's sent me a gorgeous and obviously expensive suede leather coat completely out of the blue.
    Now my question is, why?
    I expect he believes it will help facilitate his orders (top of the production list, priority processing, easier terms etc).
    And somehow,I feel obliged now.
    I feel dirty (but ever so smart and comfortable in my new coat).
    Have you/could you, ever accept a bribe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    And somehow,I feel obliged now. I feel dirty (but ever so smart and comfortable in my new coat). Have you/could you, ever accept a bribe?
    strict instructions never to accept any gift, no matter how small.

    you leave yourself wide open.

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    Send it back, your agent has the gun loaded now. You never know when he will actually fire it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    suede leather coat
    Send it back. Why the fook would you need a suede leather coat in Thailand?!

    Just send it back and say thanks, but you're never going to wear it as the temperature in Thailand rarely goes below 30oC

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    Suede leather jacket. What a lousy bribe. Reply back saying there was no money in the pocket and you gave the jacket away to charity.

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    leather goods are cheap in Pakistan
    not so much of a bribe
    what happened to the days of the gold rolex?

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    Definately send it back. Suede leather is only worn by benders in gay bars. Apparently. Unless..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    And somehow,I feel obliged now. I feel dirty (but ever so smart and comfortable in my new coat). Have you/could you, ever accept a bribe?
    strict instructions never to accept any gift, no matter how small.

    you leave yourself wide open.
    Wide open to what? I'm not a govt. official and any power I have around here is illusory.
    I'm keeping the thing, it's beautiful and unbelievably comfortable.
    Send it back. Why the fook would you need a suede leather coat in Thailand?!

    Just send it back and say thanks, but you're never going to wear it as the temperature in Thailand rarely goes below 30oC
    I'm actually in South China and while most of the year it's pretty much perfect we do get a few weeks of chilly weather around Jan, Feb.
    Send it back, your agent has the gun loaded now. You never know when he will actually fire it!!
    If I were in purchasing or quality control OK, but if he thinks he's got a loaded gun he hasn't checked for blanks.
    what happened to the days of the gold rolex?
    True, last time he was here I gave him a monte blank pen.

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    Send him a message saying thanks and hes now number 5 on the list, see what else he sends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot View Post
    Send him a message saying thanks and hes now number 5 on the list, see what else he sends.
    Or maybe tell him about the rolex I got from the Indian agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    Wide open to what? I'm not a govt. official and any power I have around here is illusory. I'm keeping the thing, it's beautiful and unbelievably comfortable.
    oh well, you obviously know best then.

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    it is either a bribe in which case what you are doing is illegal and unethical.

    (regardless of supposed power or lack of power)

    or tis just a present, in which case it aint a bribe and not worth worrying about,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    it is either a bribe in which case what you are doing is illegal and unethical.

    (regardless of supposed power or lack of power)
    or tis just a present, in which case it aint a bribe and not worth worrying about,.
    That's the thing, I'm not sure if it's a gift or a bribe.
    I can't see how even if it's an attempted bribe it would be illegal or unethical unless I were to break some kind of law by giving his orders more attention than usual, which is about all he could hope for, and wouldn't result in much benefit to him.
    It's the way in Asia, to give gifts in order to curry favour, I do it for my agents, I want them to be impressed and loyal, a gift here and there goes a long way. Gifts for their kids are best.
    I used to work with a Chinese guy in Central China and when time came to pay the piper he would arrange a Mahjong game and despite the fact that he always won, somehow with these guys he always lost. There's ways and means.
    Any of you guys ever accepted a bribe, or paid one (not to the traffic cops to get out of something, I mean proactively, to get INTO something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    True, last time he was here I gave him a monte blank pen.
    Erm...was that a bribe or a 'gift'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    True, last time he was here I gave him a monte blank pen.
    Erm...was that a bribe or a 'gift'?
    A monte blank is hardly a bribe, now if it had been a Mont Blanc pen might be seen as a bribe.

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    ^
    well either it's a typo from Dug, or he actually does mean a Monte Blank - i.e. one of those dodgy shite Chinese copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by filch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    True, last time he was here I gave him a monte blank pen.
    Erm...was that a bribe or a 'gift'?
    A monte blank is hardly a bribe, now if it had been a Mont Blanc pen might be seen as a bribe.
    Ya, it was a MontBlanc pen.
    It was a gift, but these things can be taken so many ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filch View Post
    ^
    well either it's a typo from Dug, or he actually does mean a Monte Blank - i.e. one of those dodgy shite Chinese copies.
    Well if it WAS a copy, I want my 1.53 euros back.

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    ^^
    As can your suede leather jacket.

    How did he 'receive' your Mont Blanc pen? A gift, a sweetener or an outright bribe?

    Accept his 'gift' as he received yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    I can't see how even if it's an attempted bribe it would be illegal or unethical unless I were to break some kind of law by giving his orders more attention than usual,
    still a bribe thenirrelevant if it works 0r not!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    Any of you guys ever accepted a bribe,

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    From one company I received a watch in the mail, I've never worn a watch in my life, a few weeks later received unordered goods sent to my attention. I called the salesman, said thank you for the watch and that I would not be paying the invoice that accompanied the goods sent nor would I be returning them as I didn't order them. Furthermore I would not be doing business with their company any more. But, if they wanted, they could send me a pocket watch.

    This was in the US. The goods were sent via postal service, since there was no order and it is law in the US that unordered goods sent need not be returned or paid for there was little they could do but beg for partial payment, anything! Didin't work. Never did get that pocket watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    Any of you guys ever accepted a bribe, or paid one (not to the traffic cops to get out of something, I mean proactively, to get INTO something.
    Depends on what you consider a bribe.
    I have both got gifts and given gifts to business acquaintances as a recognition for
    good service.
    It was also quite common when I was in the computer business to let a purchasing manager "borrow" a fully loaded computer for use in his home.
    Returned after a year and replaced with the latest model..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate View Post
    Suede leather jacket. What a lousy bribe. Reply back saying there was no money in the pocket and you gave the jacket away to charity.
    Check the pockets first.

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