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    How unhealthy is a doner kebab?

    How unhealthy is a doner kebab?



    Sliced "elephant leg", anyone?

    The doner is a post-pub favourite - grease and salt being the main food groups craved by the squiffy. Yet it also offers vegetables, protein and carbohydrates. Is the pitta pocket a wise dietary choice?

    After a few refreshing ales, the populace of this fair isle like to repair to the nearest purveyor of Mediterranean cuisine and partake of a traditional favourite - the doner kebab.

    The doner - whose inventor Mahmut Aygun has passed away at the ripe old age of 87 - has had much bad press of late, with reports of questionable meat and hygiene practices, and stratospheric salt and fat levels.

    Yet on the face of it, the doner could seem to be a healthier choice of takeaway, says Simon Langley-Evans, a professor of human nutrition at Nottingham University.

    "As a meal it brings together lean meat, wholemeal pitta bread, and it brings in vegetables in the form of salad. But doner kebabs tend to come smothered in dressings, which bring in a lot of fat and salt."

    Last year food scientists for Hampshire county council found that doner kebabs were the fattiest takeaways. One contained 140g of fat, twice the maximum daily allowance for women, and the calorific equivalent to a wine glass of cooking oil. And 60% of the kebabs tested were high in trans fat, which raises cholesterol levels.

    THE ANSWER

    Grilled lean meat, wholemeal pitta and salad are healthy choices
    But dressings high in fat or salt are not
    Nor is the meat used always lean - it may have added fat or be of questionable body parts

    Then there is the question of portion size.
    "These tend to be very large, and a doner kebab is usually consumed on top of a day's food as well as alcohol. It's additional food we just don't need."

    In common with other takeaway foods, a large doner kebab can contain up to half of one's daily calorie requirements in a single serving, he says.

    "People go for value for money. If they got a small portion, they would be disappointed and wouldn't go back to that kebab shop. So the takeaway industry is geared to deliver large portions."

    Mediterranean diet

    The doner kebab is claimed to have been invented 40 years ago by Mr Aygun, who left Turkey aged 16 to feed Berlin's migrant workers. Like the Earl of Sandwich before him, he realised that food on the go was at its handiest when stuffed into bread.
    Strip lighting? Check. Late at night? Check. The kebab's adopted habitat

    Kebab meat - roast lamb and spices - is traditionally served with rice and salad on a plate, and its constituent parts are drawn from the heart-healthy Mediterranean diet.

    But such a dish requires time, space and cutlery to eat. So in 1971 Mr Aygun tipped the meat, lettuce, tomatoes, onions and garlic dressing into a pitta pocket. And lo, the doner kebab - named after the Turkish word "dondurmek", meaning rotating roast - was born.
    The concept took off, and became a popular snack for anyone keen on portable eats - notably late-night revellers.

    While Mr Aygun's Hasir restaurant prides itself on fresh ingredients and quality meat, the doner kebab's image has drifted decidedly downmarket.


    The hand-carved rotating roast that has been part of Turkish cuisine for nigh on a century has become tarnished by the mass-produced "elephant legs" - minced-up cuts of indeterminate meat - rotating in greasy takeaways up and down the UK.

    Research by the UK's Food Standards Agency in 2006 found that 18.5% of doner takeaways posed a "significant" threat to public health, and 0.8% posed an "imminent" threat.

    And Trading Standards officers have found doners with up to 22% fat, and up to 12g of salt - that's two heaped teaspoons, double the recommended daily intake.

    "But the majority of [British] people who eat doner kebabs are somewhat inebriated and so are not best placed to make decisions about healthy eating," says Professor Langley-Evans.

    BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | How unhealthy is a doner kebab?

    This summer I shall go back to the UK for a short break, I want to eat greasey doner kebabs, I want to put a newspaper on the floor and bite into that lovely greasey kebab as the fat spurts out onto the newspaper, I want it covered in chili sauce, fok, I hate Thai food when compared to lovely doner kebabs.

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    I don't know.

    How unhealthy is it?

    I used to eat it in Greece.


    But I didn't read the article.

    Tell me.

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    I don't care if it's good for me or not, I like 'em... We call 'em shawarma's here at home... The lady at Soi 15 & WS always gives me a big wai and a smile when she see's me coming... I tip her well...

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    You just cant beat getting your mouth around a badly packed kebab after a few jars.

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    Food of the Gods.

    I've had Souvlakis in Australia recently and they seem to be the antipodean equivalent of the doner but as nice as they are they can't hold a candle to their British cousin. Pizza was good on Lygon street though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    "But the majority of [British] people who eat doner kebabs are somewhat inebriated and so are not best placed to make decisions about healthy eating," says Professor Langley-Evans.
    ROTFLOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    This summer I shall go back to the UK for a short break, I want to eat greasey doner kebabs, I want to put a newspaper on the floor and bite into that lovely greasey kebab as the fat spurts out onto the newspaper, I want it covered in chili sauce, fok, I hate Thai food when compared to lovely doner kebabs.
    Yummy - excellent taste in food. I think I'll go have myself a Gyros now...

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    who cares, they taste good.

    BTW - for anyone in Jakarta, try the doner kebabs on blok m D's bar. they even have a window facing the street, for punters walking past.

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    DOCTORS RECOMMEND KEBABS FOR HIGH TESTICLE CONTENT THE doner kebab is a nutritious snack filled with zinc and proteins from the compacted shavings of at least 14 different varieties of testicle, doctors said last night.


    A green salad is the perfect accompaniment to mashed ball tube on a stick
    While often attacked for its high fat content, experts said the kebab provided a balanced diet and was a major factor in having wondrous balls.

    Just two large doners a week guarantees men large, full testicles, while women will develop a glossy coat and a soothing baritone voice.

    Dr Tom Logan, of the Institute for Studies, said a typical take-away kebab was 98.4% animal testicles and 1.6% lettuce both of which are essential for vigorous gonads.

    He added: "Go to the Turkish baths in Istanbul and you will come face to face with the world's fullest scrotums.

    "Trenendous balls, really pink and plump, no wrinkles or veiny protuberances. Not like the shrivelled little walnut sacks you get over here."
    He added: "I certainly would not like to be standing in front of one if it went off."

    Wazim Farza, owner of Wazim's Mashed Testicles on Basildon High Street, said: "I favour a mix of sheep, kangaroo, frog and Irish Setter.
    "It make your balls very splendid. You want to see my balls?"






    Seem very healthy according to this report.
    DOCTORS RECOMMEND KEBABS FOR HIGH TESTICLE CONTENT - The Daily Mash

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    I had an excellent 50 baht one down the road from Nana once, really good. In comparison the previous one I had was in Graves End UK which was effing disgusting. Obviously I wasn't nearly pissed enough when I bought it. Still makes my stomach churn when I think of it.
    Fahn Cahn's

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    Dr Tom Logan, of the Institute for Studies, said a typical take-away kebab was 98.4% animal testicles
    Poofs food ?

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    Anything with salad in it is bound to be healthy, same goes for Whoppers and BigMacs

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    The doner kebab is claimed to have been invented 40 years ago by Mr Aygun, who left Turkey aged 16 to feed Berlin's migrant workers. Like the Earl of Sandwich before him, he realised that food on the go was at its handiest when stuffed into bread
    Well there you go, learn something new everyday. I thought they were a lot more 'traditional' than that.

    Just on this generally though, I find the Brit obsession with foods like this (curries being another example) quite amusing. They've become a British 'staple' in a lot of ways, mostly eaten by the exact same people that think there's a grand Muslim plot to implement Sharia law on the isles within the next 10-20yrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalconiesR4drinkinon View Post
    Anything with salad in it is bound to be healthy, same goes for Whoppers and BigMacs
    do the pickles count?

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    There was a huge rotten food scandal in Germany, some 2 years ago...

    The main supplier for Doner kebabs in that country was using rotten meat, found green and grey in his plant...

    It was affecting 1000's of doner shops around Germany...

    Disgusting bastards they were...

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    Gyro are great late-night food. After a few hours of beers on the town, there's nothin' better than a fast, delicious gyro.

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    I grab a lamb kebab when i'm in the foreign area of Seoul somedays.

    Quite nice it is.

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    Surprised they are considered that unhealthy as the meat is grilled and not fried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghandi View Post
    Surprised they are considered that unhealthy as the meat is grilled and not fried.
    As I think it's noted, the sodium and fat basically negates that fact that the meat is grilled.

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    Study reveals 'shocking' kebabs

    Study reveals 'shocking' kebabs


    Some 35% of doners contained a different meat than advertised

    Doner kebabs sold in the UK contain "shocking" levels of salt, fat and calories, a survey has concluded.

    Officers from 76 councils sampled 494 kebabs to test their nutritional value, during the Local Authority Coordinators of Regulatory Services (Lacors) study.

    The average doner they tested contained almost 1,000 calories - half a woman's recommended daily intake.

    Geoffrey Theobald, of Lacors, said: "The level of saturated fat and salt in some is a serious cause for concern."

    He added that while they "would never consider kebabs part of a calorie-controlled diet" the true content of the average kebab was worrying.

    Among the kebabs sampled - without salad or sauces - the average doner contained 98% of an adult's recommended daily salt and 148% of their daily saturated fat allowance.

    Under the supermarket "traffic lights" system, red marks would be earned by 97% for fat, 98% for saturated fat and 96% for salt.

    Some 35% of labels listed a different meat species than that actually found in the kebab.
    This study has turned the spotlight on doner kebabs
    Geoffrey Theobald
    Lacors



    How unhealthy is a doner?

    Six kebabs were found to include pork when it had not been declared as an ingredient. Two of the six were described as Halal - food or drink permitted for Muslims, which must not contain pork.

    Mr Theobald said it was "totally unacceptable" that people that with certain faiths were unknowingly eating meats that were against their beliefs.

    The worst doners inspectors came across contained 1,990 calories before salad and sauces - over 95% of a woman's recommended daily calories, 346% of a woman's saturated fat intake and 277% of an adult's daily salt intake.

    Researchers uncovered significant regional variations, with the average kebab in the north-west of England containing 1,101 calories, compared with 1,084 in Scotland, 1,055 in Wales and 1,066 in England's south-east.

    Northern Ireland's average of 843 was the lowest in the UK.
    Mr Theobald said it was "totally unacceptable" that inaccurate labelling was so widespread.

    In addition, there was little difference in weight between kebabs labelled as "small" and "large", he added.
    "While some people may think they are making sensible choices by ordering a small kebab, this study showed little difference between small and large kebab weight."

    He said with obesity rates rising so rapidly in the UK, portion size was as important as content, he said.
    "This study has turned the spotlight on doner kebabs and we hope that manufacturers rise to the challenge and work with councils to provide a healthier product that contains only what it says on the label," Mr Theobald said.

    Research by the UK's Food Standards Agency in 2006 found that 18.5% of doner takeaways posed a "significant" threat to public health, and 0.8% posed an "imminent" threat.




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