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Old 01-09-2008, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jose Feliciano, Waddy Watchel, Paul Simon and any musician that can master and play a pedal steel, Dobro etc.

Don't forget the great bass players like Jack Bruce, Sting, Flea, John Paul Jones, Bill Wyman, Pino Pallamino etc. Not as "out there" as your lead guitarists but just as important.

As a former reasonable drummer I absolutely love to listen to a great bass player. Along with the drummer the heart and soul of any worthwhile song.
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As a former crap drummer, I have to agree with that last remark
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^Yes, I agree with that, but also include Stevie Ray Vaughn, as the two best ever.
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Don't forget the great bass players like Jack Bruce, Sting, Flea, John Paul Jones, Bill Wyman, Pino Pallamino etc. Not as "out there" as your lead guitarists but just as important.
You forgot Cliff Williams!
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A friend of mine apparently brought Stevie Ray Vaughn's favourite Fender guitar "the SRV 1". From reports he paid a fortune for it and he had it with him in Thailand.
Te reason I mention this is that it was played by a great Thai guitarist at the Hard Rock and he said it was the hardest guitar he ever had to play.
Extremely high action and definately not a standard Fender bridge set up.
He said to me that SRV must of been a genuis to be able to play the thing.
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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That's not a true story. I know the guy who bought his original SRV Strat.

Try again.
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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As you see in my post I have mentioned "apparently" as there has been a lot of debate.

I have held the guitar and it certainly looks like the real one but may be a copy. You can see the guitar being played on most of SRV's live performances.

Don't know how much he paid for this guitar but I heard it was a fortune.

Quite possibly we may be speaking about the same bloke?
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Old 02-09-2008, 12:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Extremely high action and definately not a standard Fender bridge set up.
Does it have 'Made in China" stamped on the back?
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Extremely high action and definately not a standard Fender bridge set up.
Does it have 'Made in China" stamped on the back?
You quite possibly know the bloke who owns it marmite.

As far as I know it was definately a Fender Strat but with a modified or raised bridge action.

If it was copied it has been perfectly done. I would not argue the fact with the now owner and it is a little difficult to ask the original owner!
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A Fender Strat USA made, with Stevie specs goes for about 2 thousand GBP.

Anyone want to guess how much his original went for? 200? 500?
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Vintage guitars with a serious histories always go for serious dosh. The ex-Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul Sunburst was sold to a dealer in the US for a cool 1 million dollars. It has since been sold to an unidentified buyer for something in excess of that.
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A Fender Strat USA made, with Stevie specs goes for about 2 thousand GBP.

Anyone want to guess how much his original went for? 200? 500?
That is exactly the debate chinthee.

Some say it should have gone for at least a million.

Quite possibly the guitar my mate has wasn't SRV 1 (although someone told me it was) but I really believe it was one of Stevies favourites. Well he seemed to play it more often than not.
See if I have some pictures of it somewhere!
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They made a series of Fender customs to exact specification( cigarette burns, srv decal and worn spots) of the SRV 1 a couple of years ago. Stevie used .11 gauge strings and had an inverted(leftie) bridge set up with the whammy bar on top of the bridge instead of the bottom. He also had massive hands for a little guy....and that is how he got his famous sound and beautiful bends...His other famous guitar was Lenny, which his wife bought for him on his birthday....He wrote a beautiful song about her(the guitar that is!).
I assure you the original guitar is nowhere in Thailand. If you research you would know where it is. As for Mick Taylor, he was using Les Pauls most of the time for the Exile on mainstreet album, which was recorded in Villefranche, France at Villa Nelcote.
Between Jimmy Page and Clapton....I would choose Jimmy for songwriting, acoustic work, amazing riffs, outstanding solos....although a "sloppy" style,which suits him, as some people say. Clapton "slowhand", more reserved approach, less but emotionally well chosen notes, fair singer, good songwriting, more polished as well but not as "adventurous" and well structured as Jimmy....
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Number One is currently in possession of Jimmie Vaughan, Stevie Ray’s brother (After Stevie's death, Rene Martinez put the original neck back on Number One and presented it to the Vaughan family), although there are rumors that Number One was buried with Stevie in Dallas.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/the_history_of/stevie_ray_vaughan_part_2_his_guitars.html
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Colin?
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Yes Mate!

He has such an erray of guitars it is bordering on absurd.

The last one he brought was one (apparently) owed by Mick Taylor and the one he played Tumbling Dice on.

Did he show you the SRV guitar?

Looked authentic to me and to fair like a heap of shit! So scatched and damaged and when looking at the music concert CD's looks the real thing.
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The real 'secret' behind Led Zeppelin was not so much inspiration as perspiration.

Both Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones were highly seasoned, highly accomplished session musicians- and highly in demand. Apart from honing their skills and making them masters of their craft, it also meant they could both play a wide variety of styles- this was much more than a good 'heavy rock' outfit.

Both guys have admitted that their work has appeared on so many albums, quite often uncredited, that they can not even remember them all.
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^Lenny is his most beautiful song. Check out youtube for many great amateur renditions of this, from some really young kids too.

It's obvious that the true guitar players are starting to emerge in this thread, even if under new usernames.
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