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    You'd give up your citizenship for what?

    Citizenship meaning the passport that you hold.

    One of Hong Kong's Olympians is an American woman married to a local HKr. An excellent equestrienne, she gave up her American passport just to be in the Olympics. Just days before the games, her horse fell ill and she can't compete. I wonder if she now regrets having given up her citizenship?

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    Had she been a citizen of Benin/Guatemala/Cambodia presumably the question would not have been as significant?

    Quite touching the assumption that one's birthright holds the same value for one and for all without qualification.

    Genesis of nationalism and it's bastard brother, Jingoism?

    Or perhaps an incipient racism?

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    You got some ism stuck in your teeth gent.

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    I don't believe Americans are allowed to give their citizenship due to the IRS.

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    ^They are and taxation is the primary reason to do so. Handing in of US passports has never been so popular...

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    You got some ism stuck in your teeth gent.
    No, not really. Just taking a poke.

    Like being an American actually meant something in the scheme of things did it?

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    Why couldn't she compete as an American? Not good enough for the team? She coulda gone home to do it.
    Weird article anyway. The horse was not fit to go to HK (from where?) but it's now in Germany? Where was it in quarantine? Bladdy SCMP reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    The horse was not fit to go to HK (from where?) but it's now in Germany?
    I understand Stroller's bought it. He fancied a change in diet.

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    ^555 Where is the beggar anyway?

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    ^Eating the horse?

    Oh no, my bad, thats the french!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    You got some ism stuck in your teeth gent.
    No, not really. Just taking a poke.

    Like being an American actually meant something in the scheme of things did it?


    This is the sort of image thegent wishes to be presented with. Strip the details. He'll take it from there. He can doll it up with his leaden bloviating.

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    There's a female basketball player who did the same thing -- but I think she was born abroad so was dual citizen. She wasn't chosen to play for the US team so she played for the other country -- Ukraine or Russia or some other.

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    On topic I would give up my UK passport for an Aussie one
    They seem to look after their expats better.
    The UK Embassy is a joke!

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    I thought the point of the Olympics was, in part, to compete for your country?

    So she got what she deserved in the end for a purely selfish decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    On topic I would give up my UK passport for an Aussie one
    I have both.

    If you are a Hong Kong based equestrian rider, you are almost certainly quite wealthy. The main equestrian centre is at the Hong Kong Jockey Club facility out at Bees River in the New Territories. It is neither easy, or cheap to gain admittance to the HKJC. It is damn sure not cheap to maintain a horse in HK either.

    So, at the end of the day while there was probably some emotion involved, I reckon the final factor in this decision was financial. HK residents enjoy low income taxes, and absolutely no capital gains taxes- unless you are a US citizen, in which case you are subject to US taxation above a certain exclusion limit. For wealthy folk, this is quite onerous.

    Several wealthy 'ex' US citizens have taken this decision in HK, including the founders of the worlds largest Duty Free chain. It's not like they still can't travel to the US any time they want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkkandrew View Post
    ^They are and taxation is the primary reason to do so. Handing in of US passports has never been so popular...
    BBkandrew, do you have any link where this is verified? Not trying to be a dick, but I just find it hard to believe. Most Americans do not have a passport, and what would handing in a passport do?

    Just like all the people that said they would leave America if Bush was reelected. They are still there.

    As far as i know, there is still a steady stream of people immigrating, applying for citizenship or dreaming and wishing they were in America.

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    if i started asking questions ending in 'for what' I may as well give up my citizenship.

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    I would hand it in for an island of my choice with my own passport for that island.

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    It depends upon what benefits the 'new' nationality gave you. For instance an Oirish passport is seen a being good as are most Skandii ones. The UK is, I would guess, on the rung below them along with Aussiestan & Kaorastan with the US being even lower. Thailand and other banana republics would be somewhere near the bottom.

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    Not surprisingly, I don't agree with your pecking order.

    But I do agree that benefits are the only thing a passport offers.
    How free would I be to travel?
    How much money does the new country give old people?
    Are there strings attached and do I qualify?
    Would I forfeit benefits I've earned under my current status?

    I can't imagine any country offering me a better deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    How much money does the new country give old people?
    yes i wouldn't like to live in a country where some of my taxes go towards old people

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    If you are a Hong Kong based equestrian rider, you are almost certainly quite wealthy. The main equestrian centre is at the Hong Kong Jockey Club facility.
    Very high standards there (or were before 97), as it was to Brit standards. I doubt an equestrian show rider would be in that. The Jockey Club was draconian about rules. One infraction and a jockey was tossed.
    However, Macao is only an hour away, and all the jockeys there are paid to win or lose.

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    I gonna go with SBF, I would not like my money to go to old people, Disabled people or Handicapped people like they do in the USA.

    I believe that Old people should have to report for euthanasia, or live with the handicapped, Disabled in Garbage dumps and gutters like they do in Thailand and Burma and most 3 rd world, OH Excuse me, Developing nations.

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