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    "Life begins at forty"

    True, or a crock of crap believed by people who have to think this way to carry on?

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    It's not a bad way of thinking about things if you're, say, 39. But it sounds pretty dumb when you're 19 and full of beans.

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    I was speaking to someone the other night and he told me he was 38 and he said to me:

    "I am 38 but feel 48, I kiss like I am 28, I think like I am 18 and I look like 58"

    He looked very serious when he said that but why bring yourself down and be so pessimistic? I just dont understand why but then again I'm a teenager and I wont know why until I reach that age.

    But it seems all my elder friends that are still oh so young think of themselves as old like a 25 year old friend I have back in the UK he moans about it daily and tells me his life is going too quick and he hasn't found a woman yet.

    I dont think he should spend time worrying because that is such a waste.

    Maybe I'll realise when I reach that age, I just dont know.
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    I always thought that it was quite a nasty phrase, used by people already past forty years old, and used as a condescending dig at the younger generations, kind of like saying "You haven't lived yet; you know nothing" but it was really hiding their envy of the young and their fear of approaching old age...

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    How old are you Smeg?

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    Less than 40, but it isn't far away. Its a slippery slope all the way to the grave, as far as I see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    True, or a crock of crap believed by people who have to think this way to carry on?
    40 is the new 30

    When I see those kids at 20 these days, they look like fucking teenagers.

    40 is not 40 anymore !!! we all look and feel like 30 at 40

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    Ha Ha. That is like people saying 'middle age is ten years older than I am now.'

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    Life defineately starts deteriotating after 40, the body starts breaking down, complex problems like which restaurant to eat at become more difficult, a 2 meter high wall that you would normally just jump off of you now carefully climb down, yep it's a load of bollox to say life begins at 40....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Life defineately starts deteriotating after 40, the body starts breaking down, complex problems like which restaurant to eat at become more difficult, a 2 meter high wall that you would normally just jump off of you now carefully climb down, yep it's a load of bollox to say life begins at 40....
    Perhaps "death begins at forty"

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    no, death begins when you are born

    as for life begins at 40, I reckon if you are lucky enough to reach 40, then you may as well celebrate

    It is a bit old-fashioned, the phrase, referring to the period when your mortgage and debts are small or non-existent, your kids have grown up and gone, so you have lots of money and free time

    does not apply to many people however
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Perhaps "death begins at forty"
    Actually, that is probably about right. For thousands of years humans usually died in their late 30s or early 40s (if my history lessons memoey serves me correctly), thus it is only recent "artificially" improved diets and healthcare that help (most of) us to hang in there for a few more decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    no, death begins when you are born
    I can't quite see that, seeing as how your body is still growing for the next 15 years or so, ie constantly producing more new cells than are dying.

    And if it were true, why is the exact time that the umbilical cord is cut (and you start eating and breathing rather than getting oxygen and nutrition via it) the point at which you begin dying?!?

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    Life began for me at 34.

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    you are being a little literal Smeg

    it is true, as if you were not born, you could not die

    as soon as you are born, then you are going to die

    or maybe even conceived, if you anti-abortion

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    you are being a little literal Smeg

    it is true, as if you were not born, you could not die

    as soon as you are born, then you are going to die

    or maybe even conceived, if you anti-abortion
    True enough, but that doesn't mean that death begins then (which is the topic of this thread), it just becomes a certainty.

    Anyway, the thread is an attempt to be literal about a generalising or misleading phrase.

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    OK back to the topic of Life

    As I said, it was a phrase much used in the "old days"

    I have not heard it so frequently nowadays, maybe as people are more realistic about life, or those set of circumstances do not occur (people having kids later etc)

    so it was not a crock of crap, as you so sagely put it Smeg, more a homely saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    As I said, it was a phrase much used in the "old days"
    Ten years ago I had a colleague a few years older than me (I think he was 33) who married at 21 and had two kids soon afterwards. His philisophy on life was to do it the "old days" way, and he planned to quit the job and travel the world with his wife for a couple of years as soon as his kids left home. Anyway, he died that year in a car crash. The poor sod never got his wish, and never saw his kids reach secondary school.

    I guess numerous events like that in the past led to the general change in society's philosophy.

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    life begins at whatever your age is, no matter what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Life defineately starts deteriotating after 40, the body starts breaking down, complex problems like which restaurant to eat at become more difficult, a 2 meter high wall that you would normally just jump off of you now carefully climb down, yep it's a load of bollox to say life begins at 40....
    I'm in my early 40s and I'm inclined to agree to DD on this one...to a degree.

    Trouble is, I never really thought about turning 40. It just crept up on me...

    I don't really think I'm much different to how I was in my 20s. I still do much the same thing...enjoy a drink (but take a day to get over a big hangover now), still love rock music (but think rap and hip hop are crap), love a punt (and can probably afford the losses more than I used to), watch sports (but with a lot less passion), play football (but much slower now), I don't think I look my age (but that is probably self-deception), get a kick out travelling (but wouldn't "backpack" in blue fit now)...

    But I do have to start thinking about shit like giving up football, deteriorating energy levels, health cover, retirement planning, reducing job opportunities back home, etc.

    It would be ludicrous to run around smugly telling those in their late 20s and early 30s how good it is to be over 40.

    But I do subscribe to the saying i wish I knew at 20 what I know now...(or think I know)

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    I agree and disagree with everyone.

    Being 20, 30, 40, or 50 don't really mean a fok.

    Since 'yoall' enjoy Amerikan sayings, here is another one.

    When you are 20, you think who cares.
    When you are 30, you think I don't give a shit.
    When you are 40, no one really cares.
    When you are 50, how much time have you wasted?

    What are you doing today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torbek
    But I do subscribe to the saying i wish I knew at 20 what I know now...(or think I know)
    I think that such knowledge adds to the aging process

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    I have joined the forty club. I love it. I still think like a thirty year old though.

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