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    US Army are a bunch of gang bangers.

    Watched a History channel documentary last night about the US army having been infiltrated with gangs. From the White Power movement to the Crips to the Mexican Mafia.

    Gangs would appear to join for several reasons.

    To recruite new people - using their new recrtuiment skills as taught by the army.
    To learn how to kill more effectively - take it back to the streets.
    To broaden their horizons and spread to other countries - MS18 signs in Iraq.

    Done a bit of Googling and found the following links.

    LA street gangs infiltrate US army

    A sobering thought



    Gang Activity in the U.S. Military

    Exclusive: Gangs Spreading In The Military, CBS News Talks To The Family Of A U.S. Soldier Killed In Gang Initiation - CBS News

    Army Transfers Could Trigger A Gang War - March 16, 2006 - The New York Sun

    From the doco and the information on the Internet it's not a new hting. The army has known for a long time but doesn;t care.

    The fact that the war in Iraq has caused them to need a huge recruitment drive to replenish their supplies of cannon fodder has caused them to ignore criminal charges against them.

    Fascinating stuff.

    According to Newsweek, the US Justice
    Department produced a report in 1994 that
    warned some gangs had access to grenades,
    [Image] machine guns, rocket launchers and military
    explosives. It added that members who are or
    have been in the services are teaching others
    military tactics, and that "with arms,
    weapons proficiency and tactics, some street
    gangs now have the ability to effectively
    engage in terrorist activities" .

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    Where does Thailand come into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchovy
    Where does Thailand come into this?
    And you are?

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    I am an expat living in Thailand, I enrolled on this forum to engage in Thailand related discussion, not exchange icy retorts with self important backpackers.

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    This is the place for fun, a laugh and a joke and a bit of light hearted banter, come in and pull up a stool, Tell us what your day was like.
    Lick my balls

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    I can see already this topic will be a triumph. What in gods name possessed you to start such an uninteresting and irrelevant subject? Can't you see no one is interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchovy
    Can't you see no one is interested?
    Don't you realise that it's Saturday night and it's only yee and me who don't have a life???

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    True, there are gangs in the military, but they better not get caught doing things that violate codes of conduct, etc.

    Young people go into th military, and the military targets the young.

    Often lower-socioeconomic groups join. Hence, the propensity for such illicit behavior.

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    rather have em in the Army in Iraq killing folks than being on welfare and selling drugs and killing folks in LA. for christs sakes

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    Army attracts lower socioeconomic groups. Air Force attracts higher socioeconomic groups.

    I know a former Marine over here who, they told him, go to jail or join the Marines.

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    Not nothing new there,, Fucking judge told me the same thing a couple of times, but he was bullshitting.

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    It's expensive to train gang members nowadays. Joining the Army they can get all the weapons and tactics training they will need for back on the streets.

    Actually, I met a Thai US Airforce guy over here in LOS who was on the run from the US. He's Thai but also American. When he got caught in some drug selling operation in the airforce so he just ran here. He had been in the US for 30 years so he didn't know any Thai and couldn't believe that he had come from this place.

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    The army is one big gang

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    Many would be scum have joined the military, and come out decent and productive citizens for it. There is I guess some concern that with the US military having to drop it's recruitment standards to feed it's wars, the miltary will also suffer a drop in standards. I would hope that good old fashioned military discipline will handle this.
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    I'd recommend the military to anyone. They are having a harder time finding recruits compared to the past though I guess. I really wish my brother had gone in, a good ass kicking once in a while can doo some good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Many would be scum have joined the military, and come out decent and productive citizens for it. There is I guess some concern that with the US military having to drop it's recruitment standards to feed it's wars, the miltary will also suffer a drop in standards. I would hope that good old fashioned military discipline will handle this. ___________
    They estimated that 1% or so are active gang members - 10,000+ soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchovy
    I am an expat living in Thailand, I enrolled on this forum to engage in Thailand related discussion, not exchange icy retorts with self important backpackers.
    it's easy then. Noone forced you to reply or even open this thread.

    and I laff at you calling Mrs a backpacker

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    Might be safer for them in Iraq than on the streets in the Hood, Los angeles alone looses 4 or 5 or more every month to gang killings and shit knows how many are tossed in jail every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Many would be scum have joined the military, and come out decent and productive citizens for it. There is I guess some concern that with the US military having to drop it's recruitment standards to feed it's wars, the miltary will also suffer a drop in standards. I would hope that good old fashioned military discipline will handle this. ___________
    They estimated that 1% or so are active gang members - 10,000+ soldiers.

    One percent? So how did you come up with such a fitting and clever headline for the thread? The US military is a microcosm of the US population.

    The army has known for a long time but doesn;t care.
    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Many would be scum have joined the military, and come out decent and productive citizens for it.
    Now By God, thats a fact, and I am proof of it, I was a kind of a rowdy kid when I went in, and just look at me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    One percent? So how did you come up with such a fitting and clever headline for the thread? The US military is a microcosm of the US population. Quote: The army has known for a long time but doesn;t care. Really?
    So were you beat in or did you take the easy of option of being Sexed in to the gang?
    Sure you would enjoy having them 'run a train' on your ass.

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    Brilliant, Quirrel. Come up with that all by yourself?

    US Army are a bunch of gang bangers (well, just 1 percent, but hey, I'm a clever kunt!) he! good one.

    I was never in the Army Quirrel, and I'm fairly certain you weren't either given your predisposition to shirk responsibility. Keep fishin'.

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    http://militarytimes.com/static/proj...ngic_gangs.pdf

    Most recent report.

    Gang-Related Activity in the US Armed Forces Increasing
    (U) Gang members may enlist in the military to escape their current environment or gang lifestyle. Some gang members may also enlist to receive weapons, combat, and convoy support training; to obtain access to weapons and explosives; or as an alternative to incarceration. Upon discharge, they may employ their military training against law enforcement officials and rival gang members. Such military training could ultimately result in more organized, sophisticated, and deadly gangs, as well as an increase in deadly assaults on law enforcement officers.

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    may
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    or maybe not.

    A group of kids go into banking for four years, learn how the bank works, learn the security systems and vulnerabilities ... would you expect a certain percentage to turn bad and use their skills for personal gain after they leave the industry? You're beating a dead horse.
    I could go into a tirade about bad teachers, but won't -- one percent? Ummmm, wishful thinking.

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    ^ Point they were making in the documentary and the various posts is that these kids are going in bad.
    They are going in because they are wanting to spread and learn how to kill more efficiently.

    History Channel - Basic Training.

    You can start a thread on bad teachers if you wish. Either that or you could go over to Ajarn there is a whole forum dedicated to them.

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