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    "Private Dancer" - authentic, a pile of crap, or somewhere in between?

    I've just read Stephen Leather's "Private Dancer" in one go this afternoon. I've never read it before & have heard varying reviews. Strangely the views seem to be from the two extremes - it's very true to life & everyone coming to Thailand should read it, or it's a pile of crap.

    So, which is it? I found it fairly, but not completely, true to life. The end sounded like Shitman's story. However, I found it entertaining & could relate most characters to people I know.

    Anyone read it & got any opinions? I'm particularly interested in the hypothesis that bar girl/farang relationships are doomed to failure. That's not the impression I'd got from living here - in some cases, sure, but not nearly all.

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    I have observed it, but never got past the front cover... Just enough for my imagination to do the rest (minus the Sweeny Todd prop).


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    bar girl/farang relationships are indeed doomed to failure

    but it seems bar cashier/ farang relationships are quite succesful

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    So what's the ending of the story? You can tell me by pm so I save on reading that book.

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    Naah, I'll tell you here. He gets shot by a hitman hired by his bg's sister (he's also tried to screw her relationship with an American, but 'luckily' the American is too gullible to believe him)

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    He goes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian
    So what's the ending of the story? You can tell me by pm so I save on reading that book.
    He goes to Spain and lives with a donkey.

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    i think it was Mexico not Spain. The common market has really spoiled the bestiality scene in Europe (apart from Wales obviously where they have some kind of exemption)

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    These aren't much better:






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    That "Teakdoor Rocks" is a really good read, but it does tend to vary in content from page to page

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    Why has no-one ever called me their big big honey?

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    ^^ Beacuse they say, "No money, no honey" as the book title goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    That "Teakdoor Rocks" is a really good read, but it does tend to vary in content from page to page

    I'll be rummaging around the cupboard for that card later, gotta do some fresh pics in new locations.

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    I find the loyalty displayed in young Mr Pat's sign amusingly touching.

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    ^The gent/Westerby?

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    I knew a chap called Gxxxxxxx Love. (unfortunate name)

    He fell for a 16 year old dancer in his mates girlfriends band/karaoke show.

    Didn't bone her at first, just sort of fathered her (he was only 21 at the time). ended up quiting his job at my old school and moving to Bangkok to live in a one roomed place to be near her. Broke it off a bit later.

    He used to stay out until 5am come into work and talk about how wonderful she was. Yet all he saw of her was a few hours a night after the show.

    He as quite endeared by her tattoo on her hand saying - Sex Tong - in worship of her first boyfriend.

    Last heard that G. Love was still in Bangers doing meth and ripping of foreigners.

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    To answer the OP, in my younger, less responsible days, the book is almost word for word true. I experienced close to everything in it, excepting the hitman at the end.

    So my vote is somewhere in between, and anyone who says that the whole book is bollox, obviously just has not experienced same.

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    I'd go with somewhere in between, as well. A lot of the situations and behaviour described in it are fairly common. It probably wouldn't do any harm for some of the guys arriving in Thailand for the first time intending to get involved in that scene to give it a read first, so they know a little more about what they're dealing with.

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    I read it and enjoyed it, i told a friend to read it but he's too much of a know it all.
    He will end up being shot or stabbed because he doesn't understand anything and refuses to try to understand the Thai concept of face and how important it is to them!
    Well, luckily I didn't have any tortoises on me at the time...

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    The story is true (ish) and based upon clientel and the owner of Jools' Bar on Sukhumvit Soi 4 a number of years ago.

    Allegedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    To answer the OP, in my younger, less responsible days, the book is almost word for word true. I experienced close to everything in it, excepting the hitman at the end.
    Less responsible? That's hard to imagine.

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    It's fiction. That's how it works. The author gets a bunch of locations and people and bits and pieces of dialogue together and tries to make something coherent and entertaining with it all. Then readers decide whether they like it or not.

    I'm flattered to see my own effort mentioned in the same thread as PD. I registered just so I could say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian View Post
    So what's the ending of the story? You can tell me by pm so I save on reading that book.
    So your waiting for the movie that will never come then.
    Girl gets happy ending, moves to Oz with farang , on second thoughts it`s not that happy

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    A class above is Bangkok Eight by John Burdett, very entertaining and some astute observations about Thai- West mind sets.
    Follow up, Bangkok Tattoo is just as good

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    ^"Bangkok 8" is very entertaining.

    Also good reads are Jake Needham: "Big Mango" and "Tea Money". Good page turning entertainment.

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    An enjoyable read.
    based on true anecdotes.
    I thought the ending was too predictable.

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