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    Question Is marriage a big con?

    My friend in China had to pay shitloads for his wife's hand in marriage not to mention partaking in all the other daft rituals such as running around the room three times and handing out cigarettes and bowing and chanting etc...

    The family of my best Thai friend seemed very happy with the fan of thou baht notes that was presented to them on a plate of banana leaf and sprinkled with something to bring good luck - yes it brought good luck alright though maybe not for the French parents of my mates husband who had already dented their bank accounts by flying from Paris to Koh Samui.

    In England the Church started it for what must purely be financial reasons, again it is expensive with many people cashing in, and the father of the bride has to foot the bill (unless she is Asian).

    I personally think marriage should not be the fiscal fracas that it is and should be a simple affair without binding legal contracts and other off putting clauses which only serve to make the groom nervous and stressed yet feel he can't back out because "It's the done thing" and marriage is what people in conformist society do.

    Love is natural.

    Sex is natural.

    Having children is natural.

    Fighting is natural.

    Companionship is natural.

    Marriage is not, it works for some people but very few and I'm damned if I will ever commit myself to such a stressful and financially demanding event.

    You may not agree with me - if you want to get married you go ahead, I'll be quite happy to film the fucking thing.
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    Agree 100% mate.

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    nice advertising and request for work all in one!!

    registry office in Bangkok 490 Baht, just all the forms geting translated that pissed me off

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    I don't think the Church of Engalnd started it. There have been marriage ceremonies in every religion since the beginning of time.

    In India, it's the brides parents that have to pay the dowry for the groom and pay for the wedding. Not bad, eh?

    Personally, I think marriage is mainly for the woman. They seem to need proof of "commitment". Most blokes don't really care about getting married, or, just 'living in sin". They do it to shut the female up, I reckon.
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    Marriage negates death duties for the surviving spouse.
    So do it on your death bed LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    Marriage negates death duties for the surviving spouse.
    So do it on your death bed LOL
    Do it on my death bead LOL?

    What's LOL?

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    Like ha ha ha ha = LOL (laugh out loud!)

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    Ahh, you mean '5555555' * - come on G2BH, get with the programme, LOL is for teenagers on msn!

    * Expat code to donate laughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    They seem to need proof of "commitment". Most blokes don't really care about getting married, or, just 'living in sin". They do it to shut the female up, I reckon.
    yup.

    but it aint really a commitment if they dont want it to be.

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    I thought Scamp was going to get married to his flipo bird?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp
    come on G2BH, get with the programme, LOL is for teenagers on msn!
    Old habits die hard

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    in large part, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluto View Post
    I thought Scamp was going to get married to his flipo bird?
    Jeez Pluto - get with the programe, she's Indy treasure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp
    The family of my best Thai friend seemed very happy with the fan of thou baht notes that was presented to them
    How much then? I might tell you all what I payed after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp
    Ahh, you mean '5555555' * - come on G2BH, get with the programme, LOL is for teenagers on msn! * Expat code to donate laughter.
    FFS - it's a teenage thai female mate, not some secret expat code.

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    たのむよ。
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    ^^ I don't know but it made full circle.

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    a simple affair without binding legal contracts and other off putting clauses which only serve to make the groom nervous and stressed
    Already have a term for that boyfriend/girlfriend. Or partner for pooves. What's wrong with just living together forever? Nothing in my opinion, if that's what floats your boat.

    I don't understand how after a few years living together some gradually come to calling each other husband and wife (legal tems identifying a legal status). It ain't.

    Like being kinda pregnant.

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    ^ ever heard of the phrase common law wife?

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    I agree with Tex, if you are not willing to marry then you can not really call your partner a wife or husband.

    I never said I was against marriage anyway, I just think it should be for the benefit of the two persons getting married and in too many cases it seems to be more about extravagance and forking out cash.

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    When I got married all that we paid for were the new clothes and the rings. Came to about 600 quid all in. The guests paid for their meals (in stead of a wedding present as we had everything we wanted). We had about 24 guests during the day, which was 24 more than we really wanted, as we wanted to get married alone, but both mums insisted.

    If I was ever stupid enough to do it again, I'd do it in a similar fashion and not waste loads of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    ever heard of the phrase common law wife?
    Not sure that is a legal entity in Thailand. A social one, yes. But, legal?

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    It is not in Thailand but sure is in many countries in Europe.
    Married or not, you live under the same roof, you're considered married, i.e. you pay taxes and well, receive benefits, if any, as such...

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    So if a guy and a girl were just friends and wanted to cut costs by living together, they'd be considered married if they lived together? Sounds funky.

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    Indeed, they would.
    And where did you actually meet a girl and a guy who were living together while being only friends...

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    What if the girl was a carpet muncher, and the guy was a eunuch? They'd still be married?

    How can a government decide if two people are married or not? Sounds super funky. Seems it should be a personal decision -- unless Nanny knows best.

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