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    What Would You Have Done?

    I was on a bus with a friend today.

    The bus was packed & the only two seats available were one at the back & one at the front. I sat on the back seat & my friend sat at the front. I passed the journey by gazing out of the window & didn't pay much attention to the rest of the passengers.

    Suddenly, totally out of the blue, my friend jumps out of his chair, grabs some guy opposite him, picks him up & slams his head into the window. I ran to the front, my instinct being to back-up my mate. I had no idea what was going on at this time.

    As I got to the front, my mate's got this guy by the neck & is about to punch him in the face. I stopped him, concerned he'd end up in the nick, by grabbing his free arm & asked him what he was doing.

    People around us were backing away as best they could.

    I looked at the guy he was about to hit & noticed immediately he was a retard, as he had that funny sort of face that retarded people have. I then noticed an ID badge of some sort hanging around his neck, identifying him as a mental patient from a local hospital.

    Confused, I turned to my mate & asked him what the fuck he thought he was doing beating this bloke up. His reply was 'move, I'm going to banjo this bastard' (slang for kick the living shit out of him). I wasn't going to let him do that - the guy was a spastic - so started pushing my mate away. He then said, 'he's been looking up that girl's skirt'. As I looked at the girl, she was no older than about six & was holding onto her mother for dear life, while the mother herself was in tears.

    As I'm pushing my mate away, the mother's saying 'thank you, thank you' over & over again to my mate. She was as distressed as it gets. My mate told me this guy had literally got on his hands & knees in front of the girl & lifted up her skirt for a look.

    I was shocked. My immediate thought was to 'banjo' him myself, but as I turned to do so, he was grinning from ear to ear & obviously had no comprehension whatsoever of the danger he was in or what was about to happen to him.

    Looking again at the girl & mother crying, the urge to beat the shit out of this guy returned, but when I turned back to do it, his gormless face made me realise he had no idea of what he had actually done.

    If he knew it was wrong, he wouldn't have done it on a packed bus, would he?

    At the end of the day, I threw the guy off the bus without touching him while holding my mate back at the same time. The mother was still spurting 'thank you' over & over & now my mate was angry at me.

    Thinking about it now, I think I should have beat him up, but I couldn't bring myself to do it at the time.

    I don't condone hitting mental people, but the way I see it, if I had given him a bit of a slap, he might have learned not to do it again, whereas now, he probably thinks he'll get away with it next time - when there might not be a bus full of people to stop him.

    Should I have kicked the fuck out of the disabled guy, given him a bit of a slap, or did I do the right thing?

    I have an awful feeling I did the wrong thing.

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    Tough choice indeed, but probably the right one as it was your instinct and I think impossible to answer unless put in the situation yourself.
    will be interested to see how other people would have reacted in this situation
    I think it is amazing however how you managed "to throw him off the bus without touching him!!"

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    What's a retard doing on the bus by himself?

    Thought you guys had free nurses and meds and helmets for everybody?

    Free cocaine and needles and ... wait, that's Canada. Decidedly NOT British, but shares the same head of state ... sorry, I digress.

    Why was the mother of the child thanking you for being on the verge of beating the simpleton senseless? She got some hooligan blood in her? Was she wearing a Man Utd jersey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red dragon View Post
    it is amazing however how you managed "to throw him off the bus without touching him!!"
    When I say 'touch' I mean 'beat up'.

    will be interested to see how other people would have reacted in this situation
    Me too. There's some good, balanced guys on here, whose opinions I trust more than my own.

    Why was the mother of the child thanking you
    For stopping a grown man touching her young daughter sexually, I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red dragon
    Tough choice indeed, but probably the right one as it was your instinct and I think impossible to answer unless put in the situation yourself.
    Spot on and i hope to never find myself in that position!

    The momo in the OP may only be mentally on the same level as the small girl,



    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    What's a retard doing on the bus by himself?
    Care in the community it's called, a momo like this really should be supervised!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jizzybloke View Post
    Care in the community it's called
    You mean negligence, of course.

    Yes, I've seen it.

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    No point slapping him as from your description he had no real comprehension of his actions. Better would be to try and prevent another instance occurring by involving social services, the victim and the witnesses.
    If that fails then beat the shite out of him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shitman
    Should I have kicked the fuck out of the disabled guy, given him a bit of a slap, or did I do the right thing?
    If your mate resorts to physical violence in such situations I think he needs some custodial time to understand vigilantism is not acceptable.

    The situation could have been handled far better with a little self-discipline and by the relevant authorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shitman
    I looked at the guy he was about to hit & noticed immediately he was a retard, as he had that funny sort of face that retarded people have.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shitman
    the guy was a spastic
    Quote Originally Posted by Shitman
    he was grinning from ear to ear & obviously had no comprehension whatsoever of the danger he was in or what was about to happen to him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shitman
    his gormless face made me realise he had no idea of what he had actually done.
    Fucking gormless septics are all over the place now.

    What the fuck was Texpat doing out on his own though? I heard he always needs his Mrs to hold his hand on public outings, just what someone told me mind.

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    ^ He'll love that

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    ^Shaddup, you! wuzznt funnie in the least.

    Maybe a little. greend

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    ^^^


    I reckon you got it about right shitman. Tough call, maybe the police could have been notified and then they could have put him in social services hands. Always wiser after the event.

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    You need to contact the local care home as well though and tell them what happened (maybe not the bit where he got knocked about)

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    first instinct was correct i reckon, smash the devious worm,but on that thought, noteing you were in a right mind set to hold your mate off! sound like this bloke had a bit of 'downs' someone must have been responsible for him, how did he get on the bus? unfortunately the poor bugger more than likely has/had no concept of right from wrong, so you can bet he will do it again as his fancy takes him..and i reckon you did the right thing so did your mate, any man in that situation would

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    When the first instinct of anyone is to fire fists, something's seriously wrong.

    If someone is incapable of measuring a personal, appropriate response to a perceived threat, he/she should be removed from society as a threat.

    I'd say the rogue, gallant warrior was a far greater threat than the retard.

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    I would definitely not have hit him.

    Me? If I was the mother, I'd have probably shouted at him, moved my daughter & informed the driver.

    For you/your mate? Restrain him from what he was doing, inform the driver & ask him to call the police (don't the drivers all have radios etc now, for their safety?). After that it's down to police & social services, as astasinim says.

    As it stands, the guy has had half a beating, probably doesn't know why, and no-one has been informed of his little fetish, so he'll be allowed out unaccompanied again & may very well do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    As it stands, the guy has had half a beating, probably doesn't know why, and no-one has been informed of his little fetish, so he'll be allowed out unaccompanied again & may very well do it again.
    Shitman and his mate should get on the bus wearing kilts next time and sit near the man. I'm sure that would give him a fright.

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    Texpat :

    I'd say the rogue, gallant warrior was a far greater threat than the retard.
    Are you for real !? I don't agree hitting the obviously mentally unstable person was the right course of action, but to say that a potential pedophile is more of a threat than somebody with a bit of a hot temper is insane!

    Who would you prefer hanging around your neighborhood Texpat ? A mental retard who likes looking up 6 y/o girls skirts or a guy with a bit of a temper.

    I don't know what I'd had done to tell the truth, but I think trying to get the details of his neck ID tag and calling some authority would have been the best course.

    But I suppose, they saw fit to let him out in the first place they will probably do it again.


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    Well, perhaps confront the mentally-challenged person -- tell him to stop -- and maybe move seats? Maybe tell the driver you're having a problem? Maybe get REAL brave an put yourself between the perv and the child.

    Christ, it ain't that hard is it? You're not all freaks are you?

    Yeah, better yet just plow the retard in the gob and maybe get a story in the Mail.

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    If two nutters are allowed to reproduce, I wonder if the result is a sure fire baby nutter?

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    if he is as you say a certified mental patient and retarded then I think he cannot be labelled as a paedo.
    Anyone who phsically assaults mentaly retarded and ill patients should face the consequencies of their actions. Personaly I would not want to be associated with low life yobos who attack mental patients on buses. A man is judjed by the company he keeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shitman
    Should I have kicked the fuck out of the disabled guy, given him a bit of a slap, or did I do the right thing?
    If your mate resorts to physical violence in such situations I think he needs some custodial time to understand vigilantism is not acceptable.

    The situation could have been handled far better with a little self-discipline and by the relevant authorities.
    I'd go along with that.

    The mother & your mate seem fucking ignorant though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    if he is as you say a certified mental patient and retarded then I think he cannot be labelled as a paedo. Anyone who phsically assaults mentaly retarded and ill patients should face the consequencies of their actions. Personaly I would not want to be associated with low life yobos who attack mental patients on buses. A man is judjed by the company he keeps.
    agree with this, I agree with texpat, fists as the first resort is not a good idea,

    wow that's an interesting idea, some one should tell the American administration...

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    I had a brief stint working in a mental home. It was a very depressing place, patients used to run away all the time. After a while, I started seeing things from their point of view. They all needed care, of some sort or another, but the resources were not available to monitor them all.

    That was a tough call Shitman, but I think that you did the right thing not lashing out. I agree that they shouldn't be allowed out, if they have no concept of right or wrong. Unfortunately, many are so unhappy that they will do almost anything to get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    The mother & your mate seem fucking ignorant though.
    That's why I put what I'd do if I was the mother in my reply. I can't believe she sat there & did nothing & then thanked a guy for being violent in front of her already traumatised daughter. WTF is wrong with her?
    OK, I don't have a daughter, but if someone came up to my son on a bus & pulled his trousers down, the first thing I'd do (pure reaction) would be yell, very quickly followed by getting my son out of the way of this person & comforting him, then reporting the incident. The last thing I'd want is for someone to start laying into the bloke in front of my son. How on earth would that help?

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