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    Because he can buy his needs here. Can you imagine him getting it anywhere else in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Just a simple question. Why do you choose to live in a place where you despise the locals?
    And even more cogent you have had really bad luck here with two girlfriends dying. Why dont you move on?
    Its quite obvious this is not the place for you. But it is the place for some of us.
    Actually, that wasn't a simple question, that was a question from a simpleton.

    1) I have never said that, anywhere. I simply find this one part of the language and culture highly unpleasant.

    2) You can believe the shite that comes out of Mrs fingers if you want. I have never made any past comments about "dead girlfriends" on ajarn, and I never will.

    So your entire post was misinformed....

    A question for you? Are you a devout Thaiophile, or a nasty turd?

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    Oh, it's Friday, it's Smeggy.................let's get ready to......rumble!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    have never made any past comments about "dead girlfriends" on ajarn, and I never will.

    Liar, Liar, pants on fire!

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    Despite the title of every thread, on every occasion, the teachers and smeg-stalkers on this board are dead set on pushing it off-topic and into a group-hugging attack on a fierce critic of the TEFL industry.

    If you are trying to make me leave forever, it'll never work. I think you know Smeg better than that. Go do something more worthwhile, like sit in the middle of Rama 9

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    Is that what your girlfriend did?

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    So Smeg - agreed 'farang' is a horrid word. What should we tell the Thais to call us?

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    I enjoy living in the LOS smeg. It provides a nice lifestyle for myself and my family.

    I have been very polite and not attacked you at all today smeggy, but you're really having fun giving it to me.



    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Actually, that wasn't a simple question, that was a question from a simpleton.
    I just love watching people make a liar of themselves.

    And the beauty of it all is that every other poster on the board can see you doing it as well.

    Thats why all the posts were deleted.

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    btw - did you find out the answer to my tax question yet?

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    Why did you edit all your posts with random letters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    btw - did you find out the answer to my tax question yet?
    Sorry, missed it. Was it rhetorical?

    OK, roughly converted into GBP, Thailand income tax is at 5% above a GBP 800 threshold, 10% above the GBP 1600 threshold, 20% above GBP 7000, 30% above a GBP 14000 threshold, and 37% above GBP 57,000

    It is 0% in the UK under about GBP5000, 10% up to about 7000 GBP, 22% up to about GBP 32,000, and 40% above that.

    So poor are middle earners are taxed more in Thailand (taxing people earning the equivalent of 20 pounds a week is bizarre, but it happens in Thailand), and higher earners are taxed more in the UK.

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    You're talking to yourself Smeg. They've all gone to the pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Quote Originally Posted by William
    btw - did you find out the answer to my tax question yet?
    Sorry, missed it. Was it rhetorical?

    OK, roughly converted into GBP, Thailand income tax is at 5% above a GBP 800 threshold, 10% above the GBP 1600 threshold, 20% above GBP 7000, 30% above a GBP 14000 threshold, and 37% above GBP 57,000

    It is 0% in the UK under about GBP5000, 10% up to about 7000 GBP, 22% up to about GBP 32,000, and 40% above that.

    So poor are middle earners are taxed more in Thailand (taxing people earning the equivalent of 20 pounds a week is bizarre, but it happens in Thailand), and higher earners are taxed more in the UK.
    * Actually, there is no 5% tax any longer. Ended last year 2005, but the Revenue Dept. have not updated their website. Also, with the 100,000 Baht theshold being post deductibles (such as 30,000 baht single man's allowance, LFT, social security, etc.) it is possible to be earning 60,000 baht a month (if not a little more) in Thailand and paying 0% tax

    * Including deductibles, approximately 70% of the Thai working force do not pay income tax at all, they don't qualify. 75% of Thai tax is raised through corporate income tax, with most of the rest being VAT and customs tax.

    * Only 3% of the population in Thailand pay tax over 30%. The reason being, once you reach the 30% tax bracket you incorporate yourself as maximum corporate income tax is 30% and you have more allowable deductibles.

    Of course, in HK it's a flat 15% regardless of earnings, so maybe I should move there. Whereas, in the UK you only need to be a school teacher to qualify for the highest possible tax bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    It is 0% in the UK under about GBP5000, 10% up to about 7000 GBP, 22% up to about GBP 32,000, and 40% above that. So poor are middle earners are taxed more in Thailand (taxing people earning the equivalent of 20 pounds a week is bizarre, but it happens in Thailand), and higher earners are taxed more in the UK.
    If you are only referring to income tax you will be distorting the true taxation comparison between UK and Thai.

    VAT is levied in both countries I believe but is rated at 17.5% in the UK (7% in Thailand?). VAT is an across the board tax which takes proportionatley more from the lower earners.

    In the UK low wage earners may also be eligible for various tax rebates such as family tax credit.
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    btw Smeg, what should I tell my Thai firends to call westerners (in Thai) now we (foreigners) have decreed that 'farang' is not permitted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    So poor are middle earners are taxed more in Thailand (taxing people earning the equivalent of 20 pounds a week is bizarre, but it happens in Thailand), and higher earners are taxed more in the UK.
    According to the Laffer Curve, you wouldn't be able to tax people in the UK on 20 pounds a week. They'll all be in bed watching TV and collecting the dole!

    But, interesting, even with those thresholds someone of the dole could be subject to income tax

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    I tell them to call me Sir.

    Though Chao dang Braateet will do.

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    I'll just get them to call me Chang, it's much better than the Kwai I'm currently being called

    I mean, if you really want to get to the issue, don't you just love the way you got to the office on a Monday following a couple of days at the beach and the secretary asks why you "ruined" your perfect white skin

    Or when I haven't seen a friend for a few weeks and the first thing they say to me is that I'm "fat"

    There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that by western standards Thai's lack inter-personal skills. However, in some warped and bizarre way, I like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    I'll just get them to call me Chang, it's much better than the Kwai I'm currently being called

    I mean, if you really want to get to the issue, don't you just love the way you got to the office on a Monday following a couple of days at the beach and the secretary asks why you "ruined" your perfect white skin

    Or when I haven't seen a friend for a few weeks and the first thing they say to me is that I'm "fat"

    There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that by western standards Thai's lack inter-personal skills. However, in some warped and bizarre way, I like it
    When they drop the "us and them" mentality, which all Thais middle class downwards suffer from.

    And quite a few upper classes but not all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    btw Smeg, what should I tell my Thai firends to call westerners (in Thai) now we (foreigners) have decreed that 'farang' is not permitted?

    Surely 'foreigner' or 'chao tang pratet (sp.)' isn't so difficult.

    As I said earlier 'farang' is ok on the street but not in a work/business environment.

    They do know it's a bit of a piss take - like when you buy a 'farang' {ie:the fruit} some of the vendors look embarassed that you can ridicule yourself in such a way.


    If I was working in a hotel back home and a black man came to check in how well would it go down if I hollered into the back office 'Look , look there's a NIGGER in the lobby'

    It's the same thing really - it's just that PC isn't a concept here.

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    ^ possibly not. I've never been called much to be honest. However, that may have something to do with the fact that I'm rarely if ever exposed to Thai language situations in the work-place and only ever have the chance to converse in Thai in noodle shops or with my m-i-l, for which both scenarios the term 'farang' only ever arise 2 or 3 times a year.

    To be absolutely honest, I'm more likely to be called a farang by another foreigner or by street urchins looking through the windscreen of my car

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
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    * Actually, there is no 5% tax any longer. Ended last year 2005, but the Revenue Dept. have not updated their website. Also, with the 100,000 Baht theshold being post deductibles (such as 30,000 baht single man's allowance, LFT, social security, etc.) it is possible to be earning 60,000 baht a month (if not a little more) in Thailand and paying 0% tax

    * Including deductibles, approximately 70% of the Thai working force do not pay income tax at all, they don't qualify. 75% of Thai tax is raised through corporate income tax, with most of the rest being VAT and customs tax.
    I don't understand these points.

    1) Why does every website I can find list the 5% tax? If it was abolished, surely someone would have updated their site. Also, nothing on the news websites.

    2) How does the "30,000 Baht single mans allowance" and paying 750 Baht social security allow one to earn 60,000+ per month tax free??!?! More like 3,000 Baht.

    3) I don't know where you get your "70% of the Thai workforce pay no tax" stat from (source?)
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    I don't know any Thais that pay tax apart from govt employees.

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    Isn't the fact that no one pays any tax (or a ludicrously low rate at least) the main reason that the country is just run by crony businessmen?
    (ie: the government itself is broke)

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    btw Smeg, what should I tell my Thai firends to call westerners (in Thai) now we (foreigners) have decreed that 'farang' is not permitted?
    Who said it wasn't permitted? Not me. You? I just said that I strongly dislike it, and think there is no need for it.

    A person working in a shop can refer to me in exactly the same way as they refer to a Thai. We are both humans. Do I need a label to single me out from the rest of the people in the shop?

    Thai friends and colleagues have no need to label either, and nor does anyone else I meet or hear. It is simply unneccessary (apart as a silly, xenophobic, insular part of Thai culture)

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