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    Another Smeg Thread

    Ok, we got loads of smeg is a cnut threads going already, but if any of you lot could be foking bothered to search his first three threads he done here, you will find that each time he was attacked first, yes by KK, yet your all saying kk is the good guy, read the threads and see who attacks who first as this is getting ridiculous, yes we all know smeg hates the teaching industry here, but hell so what, what if he hates the building industry here, should I ban him for him telling me how crap most of the building is here? cos most of it is crap.
    So anyway read his first three threads here and see how he was attacked first before you criticise him, his first 3 threads he was attacked by quite a few ppl before he retaliated, please try to be objective, hey, and mrs q your muesili thread was shite

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    A link to his threads please DD don't be so fucking lazy you pretentious fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
    A link to his threads please DD don't be so fucking lazy you pretentious fuck
    I'll give you the links...

    http://teakdoor.com/travellers-tales...-any-news.html

    http://teakdoor.com/the-captains-lou...greetings.html

    http://teakdoor.com/living-in-thaila...e-to-live.html

    There you go, the first three threads.

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    Smeg is still a kunt though, and KK is worth 100 of him as a poster.

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    i agree with Wally

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    Prior to coming across them here, I had never heard of Smeg or KK before.

    I confess I was a little surprised at the reception Smeg received when he first started to post, but given the content of his subsequent posts I am now not at all surprised that those who were aware of him took the opportunity to make their positions clear from the outset.

    I have no problem at all with Smeg hating TEFL in general and KK in particular, I have no personal knowledge of the subject or the individuals.

    What I do particularly dislike is that Smeg's contribution to the board seems to be exhausted already. Every thread as far as I can remember either has one theme or serves as a preamble to the introduction of that theme - "that the situation in Thailand is not to his liking and for some perverse reason others won't agree with him" - all the other sub plots, TEFL, backpackers, his being ripped off at every turn and so on and so on are just sub plots to the main theme.

    I don't think he is dangerous, I do think he is unbalanced.

    I don't think he is smart - if he has a talent, it is to wind up others who are less smart than him.

    I don't think he is amusing - he simply ignores jibes about his more ridiculous assertions.

    I do think he is tedious and repetitive - ignoring him would be the most sensible option, but most people have joined the forum to engage with other posters not ignore them.
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    Perhaps KK and smeg are one and the same....Think about it: KK sitting there arguing with a sock-puppet.....The puppet starts a thread, KK's other hand thinks, 'Right, I'm not having that'....and there you have it.

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    Dougal, change your avatar back!

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    ^

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    I prefer the other avatar because it matched your username and plus it looked adorable! And I've also got to match that avatar with your posts now I'll have to start over.

    The real you, huh? I didn't know you were a vicar! I think you are trying to show a different side, let your innocence shine through but you dont fool me mate! I'll always remember dougals teeth ripping that poor character to pieces!
    Welcome to the jungle!

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    The Magic Roundabout was one-spaced-out show. Wouldn't come top of my list of pretend places to live. If I had to choose I think I'd go for Hatty Town - Either there or Trumpton. Hatty Town would be great fun, what with living in an enormous hat; Then again, I'd also appreciate riding-along-in-a-baker's van-a-clippety-cloppety-baker's-van.....Knowing my luck I'd end up with the Clangers, 'Not bloody soup - again!'

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    Oh alright Ice just for you.

    Christ what a softie I am. I identify more with Hector from Hector's House than Dougal.

    http://www.toonhound.com/hector.htm

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    I left him alone (well, kind of...) in his early stages here, with I think only a handful of posts. I just got struck in yesterday after seeing a raft of new threads, each starting with his attacks on TEFLers.

    I couldn't let it pass without any comment.

    As regards to him and KK, I must admit that I am personally unable to comment on who is "right" or "wrong"...too many pages have made it all too confusing. But I know who I value more as a member here...

    I also have NO problem with Smeg attacking the TEFL industry. There are elements of truth in what he says about it.

    What I can't abide is his broad attacks on TEFLers in general. He is collectively attacking the personal choices of a number of readers and potential readers of this forum...not just attacking their occupational choices, but also their education, social status, financial status and choice of spouse and home.

    I really don't care about the target of his attacks being TEFLers. I am not a TEFLer (any more, anyway). I am not married to bargirl. I am well educated and financially well off, so any barbs aimed at me are misdirected.

    But I would find his constant attacks offensive WHATEVER social group he chose to target.

    can't he have an opinion a social group? Sure! But to remind all and sundry of it in every thread and most posts? Really...

    And no, DD, his FIRST thread here "Life since hotseat" started off with an attack on that particular group.

    So I cannot agree with you that he started harmlessly.

    A troll?

    Maybe. Doesn't mean we should sit back and take it or just ignore it.

    Fuck, just look at the number of threads running on him at the moment. Bloody hard to ignore.

    Ban him? No, not really. He does give us something to talk about.

    And surely if he is able to make broad, generalistic attacks on people personal choices I must be entitled to attack him from time to time until my interest wanes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    Prior to coming across them here, I had never heard of Smeg or KK before.


    I confess I was a little surprised at the reception Smeg received when he first started to post, but given the content of his subsequent posts I am now not at all surprised that those who were aware of him took the opportunity to make their positions clear from the outset.
    it's funny, my feelings (for what they are worth - ie fuck all) are almost the opposite.

    I had heard all these Smeg horror stories both here and in ajarn but after reading his posts I don't see what all the fuss is about - he is practically the most normal guy around... of all of you he is the most like my rl friends who don't live in a self created fantasy world.

    Now there is nothing with the fantasy that many guys in Thailand live. Given the way many of they have been (allegedly) treated the fact that they surround themselves with bar girls and discuss western women with a bitterness that (still) takes my breath away; the fact that they find themselves in a career for which they had neither planned or for which they are not suited; the fact that they live in a country and have so little respect for its people (all the somchai / Thai's are fools comments etc.).

    Perfectly understandable... but only the norm among a very specific "inner" circle.

    Then someone comes along from outside that circle and there is something akin to mass hysteria.

    Smeg isn't "right" but then neither is anyone.

    They only question I have is why does he post here... but I can answer that easily - by asking myself. I am after all from one of the most loathed groups in the "recieved society" of these boards - the vile and ugly western woman. Why do I post? I love being online. I like a challenge. I hope that I may make a small and utterly irrelevant difference by occaisionally expressing an opinion that will make people rethink their stance for a nanosecond, and that nanosecond may be enough to cause a tiny paradigm shift.

    After several months of being around I have even grown to like some of you weird fucked up misfits, lol.

    And after reading a couple of Smeg's posts I feel that the only thing wrong with his presence on the board is the extreme over reaction that follows his every word. He isn't a prophet he is a bloke with an opinion.

    Read it and respond - stop acting like he just bitch-slapped your mother.

    I do wish he would change his name though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    we all know smeg hates the teaching industry here, but hell so what, what if he hates the building industry here, should I ban him for him telling me how crap most of the building is here? cos most of it is crap.
    I think you're missing the point DD

    we could hate the building industry and expound at great lengths on the subject...but we don't have a flick at you personally...

    I agree with many of the things that he says about the teaching industry in Thailand...but the repetition of it gets so boring...every thread he has to mention it...

    we all know that the building industry in LOS leaves a lot to be desired...but you don't ram the facts down our throats at every opportunity...

    the worst thing IMO is his personal attacks on anyone working in 'his' industry...the tosser thinks he's the only one in Thailand with quals...

    i don't think banning anyone is a good option cause then you get the fokers trying the crash the forum...but i'm not sure you're defending the right person when most of the regular contributors are on the otter side

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    Quote Originally Posted by hirondelle
    Now there is nothing with the fantasy that many guys in Thailand live. Given the way many of they have been (allegedly) treated the fact that they surround themselves with bar girls and discuss western women with a bitterness that (still) takes my breath away; the fact that they find themselves in a career for which they had neither planned or for which they are not suited; the fact that they live in a country and have so little respect for its people (all the somchai / Thai's are fools comments etc.).
    Are you talking about Ajarn or here????

    Seems this would describe someone from the other place better than here, as none of us are teachers or at least won't admit to it. (I think we've got one gay welsh consultant!)

    Also don't think there is too much anti-thai sentiment on TD, we're too busy cooking chili or beans on toast and things like that.

    We don't hang around with bargirls 'cos we is all bent and like taking it up the arse, or at least DD does.

    But, if you're talking about ajarn, you've got it right and that's why most of us don't go over there much anymore.

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    I had heard all these Smeg horror stories both here and in ajarn but after reading his posts I don't see what all the fuss is about - he is practically the most normal guy around... of all of you he is the most like my rl friends who don't live in a self created fantasy world.

    Now there is nothing with the fantasy that many guys in Thailand live. Given the way many of they have been (allegedly) treated the fact that they surround themselves with bar girls and discuss western women with a bitterness that (still) takes my breath away; the fact that they find themselves in a career for which they had neither planned or for which they are not suited; the fact that they live in a country and have so little respect for its people (all the somchai / Thai's are fools comments etc.).

    Perfectly understandable... but only the norm among a very specific "inner" circle.

    Then someone comes along from outside that circle and there is something akin to mass hysteria.

    Smeg isn't "right" but then neither is anyone.
    bloody hell Hirondelle, you are generalising in such a way!!!

    how on earth do you fit everyone into your boxes, when you do not really know anyone. Maybe the misogynistic posts against western women do exist, but I dont believe the majority of people here have made them.

    Why do you think we ALL surround ourselves with bargirls? why do you think we are part of a CIRCLE?

    loads of bollocks Hirondelle, get specific

    as for Smeg, he just gets boring with the same old grind
    I have reported your post

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    I think Hirondelle surrounds herself with people men who surround themselves with bargirls and don't like pastie white chicks that won't do their ironing.
    More fool her really.

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    no I was saying the opposite... such guys are rare in my rl - I just see 'em online and before you all get so huffily defensive that you are unable to hear anyone's opinions than your own - I said 'many guys' and you imagined I meant YOU, personally

    Now relax and go get urself a beer, lol

    More fool her really
    it's just here (occaisionally) and ajarn (frequently) CMN, if I couldn't handle it I wouldn't be here - but I find the alternative perspective refreshing as it forces me to challenge my otherwise narrow pov.

    What has been buried in this knee jerk response is my point:

    Smeg is unpopular because he doesn't kiss ass and has the audacity to confront and oppose. His controversy is such that he has only the power given to him (in outrage) by those he contradicts. And sadly your responses to my post proves rather than disproves this tendency.

    When I am being smutty flirtatious you love it, no matter how controversial I am being. When I challenge your pov you throw your hands up in horror and quickly scramble for the holes in my arguement - I'm sorry, did I forget to flutter my eyelashes and shimmy when I posted back there?

    Yes I was generalising, on purpose. I could trawl through threads and find specific examples, but honestly I can't be arsed. I am here for pleasure - I am not researching a Masters thesis.

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    I think it's time to give the whole Smeg issue a rest a focus on a real 'evil' man who haunts our hallowed Teakdoor.........Wally Dorian Raffles!!!!

    He makes Smeg look like a choirboy!

    He made me go and look at naked uni girls last night just to score points with his brother's mate!!
    And I'm getting married soon!

    He's evil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poolcleaner.
    He made me go and look at naked uni girls last night just to score points with his brother's mate!!
    And I'm getting married soon!
    Where.
    I'm actually planning a weekend in bangkok in the next few weeks.
    Where
    Where where where where where, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    Quote Originally Posted by Poolcleaner.
    He made me go and look at naked uni girls last night just to score points with his brother's mate!!
    And I'm getting married soon!
    Where.
    I'm actually planning a weekend in bangkok in the next few weeks.
    Where
    Where where where where where, please.
    Baccara on soi Cowboy.

    i suppose i could take you there if you really wanted to go but, well it's disgusting, they were naked uni girls

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    quote=hirondelle]

    no I was saying the opposite... such guys are rare in my rl - I just see 'em online and before you all get so huffily defensive that you are unable to hear anyone's opinions than your own - I said 'many guys' and you imagined I meant YOU, personally

    Now relax and go get urself a beer, lol

    See, there you go again, assuming I drink beer!!

    More fool her really
    it's just here (occaisionally) and ajarn (frequently) CMN, if I couldn't handle it I wouldn't be here - but I find the alternative perspective refreshing as it forces me to challenge my otherwise narrow pov.

    What has been buried in this knee jerk response is my point:

    Smeg is unpopular because he doesn't kiss ass and has the audacity to confront and oppose. His controversy is such that he has only the power given to him (in outrage) by those he contradicts. And sadly your responses to my post proves rather than disproves this tendency.

    He is unpopular (actually, just making people pissed off) because his posts tend to be diatribes against one other poster, that's all. If he stays off that, his posts are OK. NOT because he is a freedom fighter, a man who stands by his priciples against the horde.

    When I am being smutty flirtatious you love it, no matter how controversial I am being. When I challenge your pov you throw your hands up in horror and quickly scramble for the holes in my arguement - I'm sorry, did I forget to flutter my eyelashes and shimmy when I posted back there?

    smutty flirt!! I suppose if you are flirting then there is nothing much to challenge. If you make sweeping statements, then there is

    Yes I was generalising, on purpose. I could trawl through threads and find specific examples, but honestly I can't be arsed. I am here for pleasure - I am not researching a Masters thesis.

    oh sorry, you were generalising on purpose. Tha's alright then


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    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    Quote Originally Posted by Poolcleaner.
    He made me go and look at naked uni girls last night just to score points with his brother's mate!!
    And I'm getting married soon!
    Where.
    I'm actually planning a weekend in bangkok in the next few weeks.
    Where
    Where where where where where, please.
    Baccara on soi Cowboy.

    i suppose i could take you there if you really wanted to go but, well it's disgusting, they were naked uni girls
    hehehe....

    I'm bad I'm bad me bad! ....

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