Junkies,winoes,whores - Thailand loves them

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 10:59 PM

^Lots of foreigners working long-term in Thailand who don't want to leave and have no plans to leave but don't have a visa that allows them to work in Thailand. That makes them illegal immigrants.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by colourful-era

yes, I think I'd rather top myself than live here the rest of my life....fun for a bit then the party's over and farang go home.

I think that is the choice some people face. They failed to make a happy life before ending up here so can't bring themself to leave.

**dirtydog** · 10-01-2008, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

If I had to scour the bars for company, I don't think I would've lasted this long.

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

It's not where you are , ..it's who you are with...

2 people that found Soi Yodsak near the beginning of their tenure in Thailand

**sabang** · 10-01-2008, 11:20 PM

I just had a beer with a guy who returned from 4 weeks in the UK.
You honestly think one is insane to prefer to live here?

OK
England needs more people like you.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 11:23 PM

^ And last night I had dinner with a thai girl who last month came back to thailand after studying for a masters in Australia and didn't want to come back.

Each to their own.

**chitown** · 11-01-2008, 12:49 AM

^ Smeg, was she

cut or uncut???

**Fast Eddie** · 11-01-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

What kind of nut spends the best years of their life somewhere only because it is cheap so they can be lazy?

So why are you still here Smeg?

Originally Posted by Smeg

I think that is the choice some people face. They failed to make a happy life before ending up here so can't bring themself to leave.

Oh, i see....

**Frankenstein** · 11-01-2008, 04:47 PM

what is this garbage you are spouting? - are you looking for congratulations for stating the obvious - did you forget to mention that there are traffic lights here or something?

Just a bit of exaggeration to say I don't agree with you. It's so boring to just write 'I disagree'.

**PattyFlipper** · 11-01-2008, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

Originally Posted by PattyFlipper

It is far less nationalistic and xenophobic than Thailand

Hmm, is that why they took to the streets and burned the Thai embassy after an airhead Thai soap actress made some statements about Angkor Wat being Thai? That seemed pretty nationalistic to me. Annoyance is understandable enough, but burning embassies and rioting is a slight overreaction.

Did you actually mean they are less negative to Westerners?

They don't particularly like the Thais as a nation, I'll give you that. Not really surprising given the Thai superiority towards their poorer neighbours. However, despite the riots (which were several years ago), there are still quite a number of Thais living, working, and doing business here, and the ones I know don't seem to have any problems on an individual basis. The government still welcomes Thai investment (and investment from any other nationality). I know several Thai/Cambodia or Thai/Farang couples, and they are mostly in Cambodia because it is far easier for the Thai to remain here legally than it is for the non-Thai partner to stay in Thailand. The Thais don't seem to have any complaints about the way the are treated by the locals. I wonder if a Khmer living in Thailand would say the same?

Thailand has a wealth of opportunities. For sure, you may have to do it 'under the radar', but because of the general Thai ineptitude, there are many situations that can be taken advantage of.

And therein lies the problem, as far as I'm concerned. A "wealth of opportunity" to live like some wetback illegal immigrant, wondering whether your situation is going to be made untenable by the next wave of xenophobia and changes to the immigration rules.

**Rattanaburi** · 11-01-2008, 09:47 PM

It's Friday night, I wonder how many people will be a wino, junkie or with a ho tonight? Not me, I'm to fat and lazy to have fun nowadays.

**Frankenstein** · 12-01-2008, 11:22 AM

Thanks for the reply Pattyflip, it's interesting to hear there are that many Thai-Khmer couples which is something I didn't know.

There's no denying the general Thai attitude of superiority to pretty much all of their neighbours.

As for the Khmers, I plan to go and have a look myself sooner or later. In fact I've been meaning to go since 1995, just never got off my arse.

**sabang** · 12-01-2008, 11:41 AM

^ Ditto. A 'mate of a mate' was in town a while back- he lived in Pattaya for several years, then moved to Snooky anout 18 months ago as Thai started tightening up their visa requirements.

He speaks highly of the place, and reckons the Khmer are a much harder working bunch than Thai, and the English is better. He still misses some things about Thailand though, and comes to pattaya about three times a year.

**Marmite the Dog** · 12-01-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

As for the Khmers, I plan to go and have a look myself sooner or later.

The Khmers that I know hate the Thais and label them as arrogant, stupid and lazy. Fair enough. I suppose.

**colourful-era** · 12-01-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rattanaburi

It's Friday night, I wonder how many people will be a wino, junkie or with a ho tonight? Not me, I'm to fat and lazy to have fun nowadays.

he..he.. - I'll probably be the wino with a whore tonight methinks (may even smoke a bit of green but that's not being a junkie IMO)

**rawlins** · 12-01-2008, 06:21 PM

^.. good on you... decided to stay now?.. It's not all that bad after all really...

**colourful-era** · 12-01-2008, 06:24 PM

the good times here are very good I'll agree - it's just that the normal times seem to lack something (not just down to hobbies, friends etc..)

- I think it's more the fact that money is the real king here (not that other chap)

**rawlins** · 12-01-2008, 06:31 PM

^ True... I have had some of the best nights of my life in Thailand... But they cost a feckin lot...

**PattyFlipper** · 14-01-2008, 04:36 PM

I agree with TMD's comments that the Khmers can be more productive than the Thais, though this is not always the case. The English is definitely superior. Very easy to get around in English, and many Khmers speak the language well (though they still have the usual Asian problems with reading and writing).

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

As for the Khmers, I plan to go and have a look myself sooner or later. In fact I've been meaning to go since 1995, just never got off my arse.

Good for you. I developed an attraction for this place about 14 years ago - long before I actually fell out of love with Thailand. A word of advice, for what it's worth. Come with an open mind. Cambodia is not Thailand, despite some cultural similarities, and most of the expats here don't want it to be. If you arrive expecting a less developed version of LOS, the chances are you may be disappointed. Chok dee.

**stroller** · 14-01-2008, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by PattyFlipper

If you arrive expecting a less developed version of LOS

That would be Laos.

Got to keep on your toes all the time in Cambodia, lots of scams and double pricing. Also, to the OP: most of the "winoes" and junkies have moved on to Cambodia, if their presence's been bothering you in Thailand, don't go there.
Try Malaysia.

**PattyFlipper** · 16-01-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by stroller

Got to keep on your toes all the time in Cambodia, lots of scams and double pricing.

I disagree with this, at least in Phnom Penh. In my view there are far more rip-offs, scams, and double pricing in Thailand. Places with large concentrations of tourists like Siem Riep may be different, but generally the Khmers are more honest than Thais, even though they're poorer.

Originally Posted by stroller

Also, to the OP: most of the "winoes" and junkies have moved on to Cambodia, if their presence's been bothering you in Thailand, don't go there.

Easily avoided, just as they are in Thailand (which still has more than its fair share, so they haven't all moved to Cambodia).

**AntRobertson** · 16-01-2008, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by stroller

most of the "winoes" and junkies have moved on to Cambodia

Most, but not all.

**stroller** · 17-01-2008, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by PattyFlipper

Originally Posted by stroller

Also, to the OP: most of the "winoes" and junkies have moved on to Cambodia, if their presence's been bothering you in Thailand, don't go there.

Easily avoided, just as they are in Thailand (which still has more than its fair share, so they haven't all moved to Cambodia).

The OP is bothered by their presence wherever he hangs out in the Los, it seems.

Yes, easily avoided - I've rarely come across any farang 'winoes' or junkies here, it depends which places you frequent and who you mix with.

**The Gentleman Scamp** · 17-01-2008, 12:26 AM

Laos is nice, I could live in Laos.

Everyday is like Sunday.

**slimboyfat** · 17-01-2008, 05:00 PM

cloudy and grey?

**colourful-era** · 17-01-2008, 09:53 PM

silent and grey was the line I believe (from the Morissey song that is)

I reckon Laos would be a tad on the dull side -

perhaps Malaysia - on second thoughts no -too many ladyboys, muslims and damned fuzzy wuzzies..

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