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    What to do? Advice needed from the teakdoor flotsam and jetsom

    So me and her indoors have been seriously talkin about a move to oz (perth) mostly because we thi k its gonna be in the best interests of the kids they are 8 and 11. Im not working and just turning 55. I see no future in Lao for my mixed race kids but at 55 ive still got another 10 years work in me. But not a lot of opportunity for me in the region. Im in the same boat as them perhaps? Having said that ive lived a wild life and somehow managed to accumulate a few assets. I own the house in Lao ( or at least i think i do?) Own
    The small gaff in oz to so that should offset a few problems. Been getting non stop job offers down there and looks like things are on the up down under? So perhaps its time to ride that gravy train? (Mining)

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    But no more fucking sudan. Fuck that

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    Get your children the best education you can provide - arm them for survival in todays world - the only thing that matters is providing your children with the tools they'll need.

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    Im currently paying $10000 usd per year to have them in an international school manned by flippers n indians getting paid slightly more than than maanam. In oz its free. Yes i will pay more for my vices (beer, smokes etc) but i will quit the smokes and crank up the home brew kit. But seriously do i really need to raise my nippers in whats essentially a third world commie country. Ivebeen here 13 years and its gettin old. Pee mai lao just confirms it. Nothing changes?

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    Stay where you are and send them to Mandy in UB.

    In all seriousness I think the Kids education is priority 1 if they are to have a place in the world with a reasonable expectation of a career, giving yourself 10 extra years of money whilst they are entering the most expensive part of their upbringing and getting quality Aussie steak on tap (and no Dill not a ref to the ladies) has gotta be a bonus - so go for it and really a no brainer given your circumstances.

    As discussed of ThaiDhupp's thread you need someone to look after the house, rent it or are you selling up?

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    the attractions of living as a white man in third world dictatorships are many, but ultimately you and yours will end up being dragged down to their level and the kids will in all probability not have access to the opportunities they would have with a decent western education in a "western" country.

    i would move back to a first world country, ensuring that the children are well educated and can see the differences between the two cultures. when they have finished their education they will be able to make an informed choice as to which kind of society they wish to settle in, and with a western education under their belts, should they wish to return to laos, they will be at an advantage.

    you can find work, build up your nest egg, and be able to retire to laos, which will probably be a province of china by then anyway, in 10 or 15 years time should you so choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the attractions of living as a white man in third world dictatorships are many



    yup - can't argue with that

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    How much for the crib?

    Just kidding, I was hoping for the neighbors place? Again, just kidding though it is a nice place. Ok, if it comes up let me know. Not that I need another maintenance issue. Lord knows I have troubles with that as it is.

    Realistically your salt and pepper kids, AKA half breads as I heard them called, thanks Todd, will do more than better if you take the time to teach them wrong and right, conqure the English language and set them on a trail to do things toward a trail of sound investments. Whether it's here or there is not the crux of the biscut. As for these English teachers it would be the apostrophe!

    I would, and your not me playing it all over again, have a game of give and take away. You give them something and they take away from that. It builds on from there. They must realize the investment you put in to their future really depends upon their input and the want they must have to get somewhere. Whether it's abroad or back in Loas is up to them.

    If I were you, and I'm not, I would smack their asses over to the hawkers mall downtown VTE and make them do time in a six by six stall. And after a few days of picking up and taking down they may get the bigger picture of the value of the language.

    Next thing you know your kid is a sports caster or doing the evening news in Laos. Do you have to take him to Ozz for that? Hell if I know.



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    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    mostly because we thi k its gonna be in the best interests of the kids they are 8 and 11.
    Quote Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker View Post
    The small gaff in oz to so that should offset a few problems. Been getting non stop job offers down
    What's the problem, it's a no-brainer.
    Yep, warm bath syndrome. You need to steel yourself and get out of the tub. Kids education is the priority.

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    Do it. If you can get another ten years out of a job you are comfortable with, it could save your sanity, as well as your kids future. They are already well travelled, so it shouldn’t be too big a wrench for them.
    Im sure Perth is big enough to have plenty of minority stuff going on for her indoors, plus no probs for her seafood diet.

    Keep the Lao place on until you are sure the move to Oz is a winner. Good luck with it.

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    I have always assumed that education in S. E Asia is poor when compared to the level of education provided in Western Countries.

    That was until I had a look at my youngest daughter's home work.

    She attends Assumption School in Sriracha and I was impressed to see the level of Maths was particularly high.

    I am confident that my daughter is receiving top level tuition but of course education begins at home and diligence and wanting to learn is most important.

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    I have an 8 year old girl in an international school in Korat and I think she's getting a pretty good education which is my main priority. But, its does get more expensive year by year, and once in the international system its very hard to get out - my daughter's Thai is now way too weak for her to go to other schools in the area.

    While my elderly mother-in-law is alive my wife won't consider moving, so I can put off any decision for now, but that will change at some point in the future. We will have the option of Aussie through my Thai/Aussie wife or UK through me. I wasn't keen on Perth when we last lived there years ago, but it will be the most likely option to keep my wife happy and get my daughter in good free education and give her a Western outlook. The down side for me will be work. I work offshore all over the place and my current tax status is good. But do I really want move to Oz, start again, and get hooked up in the Aussie tax system for the last 10 to 15 years of my working life? That would be a huge downside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I am confident that my daughter is receiving top level tuition but of course education begins at home and diligence and wanting to learn is most important.
    Nailed it, LT

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    Beware of anyone that says they can teach you maths. We all know their is more than one angle.

    Or should I say there's is more than that.

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    For what it's worth.

    I'm a "Perth Boy", Pension age now, but, still work a little. Been living in Thailand, GREAT Thai missus (Married 20yrs). We purchase a house in Thailand did all that goes with making a life there.

    Smog, corruption, "Visa hoops" etc.. etc.. has caused us "both" to call it quits.. Wife has been an Aussie, almost 18 yrs. We will donate our house to family.

    As an OAP, I get loads of perks.

    Free healthcare
    Free drivers license
    Free public transport
    50% Rego on car
    Subsidised, electricity, gas, water, rates, etc, etc.

    At 62 you will be entitled to a "Seniors Card" and loads of benefits.

    Housing - I own three in Perth - right now, you "could" buy a house in Armadale for around $150-175,000. You can rent for $200+ per week and Armadale has many great schools in the area. MOST other suburbs will cost you more. These prices will not last though, as mining is firing up again.

    For your wife, (If she is a follower) Armadale area has three Buddhist Temples of the Theravada tradition - Burmese, Cambodian & Thai AND others, belonging to other traditions.

    IF you are a trades person expect good wages - at least $35 per hour. is the Minimum you should get (Most jobs) $25++ per hour.

    Of course, you will need to follow "road rules" when driving and a few other "nanny state" inconveniences, however, IMHO, Perth is a gem of a city. Beautiful climate, clean air, etc.. Great place to raise kids.

    You can still eat out - FREE in places like https://www.annalakshmi.com.au/ brilliant location on Elizabeth Quay\

    Good luck, whatever you decide cobber..



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    It depends on what one wants to do. IE; do you teach Picasso how to paint ect. You're close to the river, throw them in..sink or swim. But you knew that, they would swim back to you.

    Hey, I've a place about fifteen minutes from Marquette for eight fifty a month if that can help you.

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    seems to be a lot of new stuff being built in the boondocks of wet oz - and the rotations are quite short

    the tax thing can be an issue if you currently still have a house in oz - very hard to determine if you are a non resident for tax purposes

    but the other things to consider are the healthcare etc which goes with living in Aust , along with the education and training available

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    Just kidding, I know they are young. I'm sure there are many options for them. Hell you may even be able to buy their way into Princeton. Ok, well those days may be over.

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    Aussie is pretty cheap now with the dollar falling steadily for a few years and the Perth property market is fucked so a great time to sneak and give some lucky vendor a reaming with a baseball bat.

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    If it was Thailand, I'd say stay.

    International education, them being completely and naturally bilingual and bicultural, then tertiary education in the West, is better for their future than a government school education in the West.

    However, it sounds like the Lao Int. School is a crap, and at 8 + 11 yrs old they're just about naturally bilingual and bicultural, and with no disrespect to Laos, being so doesn't have the same advantage as Thai.


    So I'd head back for 10 years. Work up a nice nest egg, and they get decent enough Oz schooling.

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    Aus is cheep? Ain't been to Laos. Oh, but that is the point. You pay for this and they give you that.

    I'm saying if you teach them there with the best you can come up with it may be better than some , well, things they learn in Perth.

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    I'll give you a buck sixty for the house. Can I get a fifty year lease on the land? Ok, a buck eighty. But not a penny more unless I can get a fifty year lease on the land.

    Seriously I would hold on a bit. You have time, time to make a difference in their young lives, and that is priceless.
    In that I mean you could teach them more from here on out than they ever would learn in school regardless of where they go...to school.

    Not that I'm a mathsssss wiz nor a scientology major. I do understand the value of four years in a respectable joint. It's up to you and them then.

    Now you are thinking where would you want to be if you were in their shoes? For me Laos would not be the place. But that is just me as I have been around the block a few times. They may have good tools there, I don't know. I do believe at their age you are the best tool they have got.

    Really, ask them what they learned in school today. An old trick my folks used to see if I paid detention or not. You'd be surprised that by teaching your young kids about work they might want to learn about more. Or how to avoid it at all costs.

    I figure that is what College is all about.




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    Maybe you should come back to OZ and try it first. You can commute to laos to see everyone while you test the waters. Dont know if I would pick Perth. its very isolated with a small population dependant on mining. A bigger city might suit you better. Still its what you are use to. I have lived in Melbourne Brisbane and Perth and spent some time in Sydney. The pick for me is Melbourne for things to do and more of an international flavour, some good govt schools that the kids may assimilate into better and great public transport compared to the others. Sydney harbour is great but too expensive so you have to live out a bit. Brisbane is pretty ordinary as a city but there are some nice areas further out. Melbourne and Sydney are the best two for work although in mining Perth would be better.

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    BLD is from perth so unless he has lations on the east coast I would say some place outside perth would be fine if he is on a rotation job

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    I think BLDs silence has told us his decision, good on ya BLD.

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