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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...forwarded your comments to the author...
    I think he knows.....still more grist to the mill

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...posters, calm thyselves...please note where you think the author is inaccurate...or even hyperbolic...
    Since when did it become my job to re-educate septic obfuscators? If i can use the Internet, I’m sure you’ll manage just fine on your own.
    Just make sure you get the difference between knowledge and understanding first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    it is a plain fact that Victorians felt that civilising and leading natives to God was a duty
    In the 1920s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    In the 1920s?
    Try reading history. Numb nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    What did the Romans ever do for us....
    Indoor plumbing and some nice straight roads.

    The British Empire generally benefitted from justice, democracy, steam railways, cricket and missionaries. A fair swap, I think you’ll agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    In the 1920s?

    Born 1874, Vikki died 1901; parents Victorian so were his values, you'll have to try harder.

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    Much more than that; we gave them English, gave the world most of its top foods (Potatoes, Currys, Gentleman's Relish, Kedgeree), where would smoking be without us, Tea would still be in China, Hot Chocolate, Pimms and of course proper country names and borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Born 1874, Vikki died 1901; parents Victorian so were his values, you'll have to try harder.
    No need to try anything, the 1920s weren't 'Victorian'. While his racist views weren't unique at the time, they certainly were controversial.

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    Yep, would have felt at home with your forebears - still trying little man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Yep, would have felt at home with your forebears
    Close - he admired Mussolini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Since when did it become my job
    ...you're the one hurling accusations against the author...
    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Hyperbolic and factually inaccurate
    ...waiting for the hyperbolic and factually inaccurate passages you claim to have found...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    TC, it is a plain fact that Victorians felt that civilising and leading natives to God was a duty, it seems wrong viewed with hindsight
    Bringing civilisation to primitive people is not wrong.

    A Christian god was part of the package deal of civilisation at that time but most of it was practical stuff like agrariansim, industrialism, legal frameworks and the necessary evolved ethical frameworks that come with those developments in social organisation.

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    ...^you've missed the point of the article...

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    ^I did not read the article.

    It is too long.

    What was the general jist of it just out of curiosity?

    Churchill was the leader needed to counter the rise Nazism. I think he can be forgiven some sins on balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    it is a plain fact that Victorians felt that civilising and leading natives to God was a duty
    Victorians were Mormans. Bloody hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    I did not read the article.
    ...that may be why you missed the point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Much more than that; we gave them English, gave the world most of its top foods (Potatoes, Currys, Gentleman's Relish, Kedgeree), where would smoking be without us, Tea would still be in China, Hot Chocolate, Pimms and of course proper country names and borders.

    Oh dear...
    Tell me all this is expressed in twisted jest, Tootie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    of course proper country names and borders
    Consequences of those borders are one of few reasons of the current turmoil in those areas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Churchill was the leader needed to counter the rise Nazism.
    Wondering how did he counter the rise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Consequences of those borders are one of few reasons of the current turmoil in those areas...
    Exactly, look where the world would be without our contribution to defence industries through having artificial lines to protect, just to prove we're not hypocrites we gave ourselves a few border issues too, its only crazed institutions like the EU think borders should be abolished..... shhhesh
    Last edited by NamPikToot; 19-02-2019 at 08:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    I did not read the article.
    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Churchill was the leader needed to counter the rise Nazism.
    The article was about Churchil pre-1940s and his what we now call white supremacism, but more accurately (since he ordered the murder of whites...but they were just pikeys and welshmen), English supremacism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    I did not read the article.

    It is too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    The article was about Churchil pre-1940s and his what we now call white supremacism, but more accurately (since he ordered the murder of whites...but they were just pikeys and welshmen), English supremacism.
    Your aboriginal chip playing up again?

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    Run out of arguments again, hence more personal attacks, NumPrik?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Run out of arguments again, hence more personal attacks, NumPrik?
    What's there to argue about, or debate. Anyhow isn't it you, since you've reappeared that's been so keen to get up to your old tricks that you almost get into a shitfest with yourself... carry on but you've been exposed for the hypocrite that you are.

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