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    Clearly fixed.

    Though the grumpy farang will still moan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    I come back ten minutes later and I've a level rod with four inches on the right and three on the left!
    Lack on worker's ability or lack of clear direction by the employer?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Turned out I had to do everything that was critical
    If you believe an out of centre curtain road is "critical', ensure you are able to inform your workman of this fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    it's fixed after lowering the tires to 25 psi on one side of the car
    Did the dealership mechanic/service boss inform you of their solution or did you just pay a impressible cheap THB50 charge and drive away?
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    It's a joke, OhOh.

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    Oh oh, bit of a boo boo. Hell, nothing nuclear or even near supercritical.

    Who the funk do you think the fish is?

    Dilly stay out of this please.

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    I'll post a few picks of thier works tomorrow after the finish has dried.

    So I go today where we bought the custom curtains from the other day to buy some floor mats to settle our feet onto before getting into bed.

    A different girl is there I haven't seen before. I say in regards to the mats " Anee la caa toadia?" Sorry for the poor transliteration, fish.

    She says something like song ha sip paun. I give her the look and ask for her calculator. Immediately she says song zip pan.

    I say ok on two of them for that. A couple of rugs for a couple of bucks. That's what I like about this place.

    Funny thing is no matter where I seem to go here they know the real price of basic items and don't often try to overcharge me.

    Mabey cause they know that I am ......

    the fish.


    Hahaha. I love this.

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    I said its all about who you know, not who you blow..fish.
    I better watch it. I could get in trouble for impersonating a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Thailand’s “OK”. In the uhm... contest, Thailand ranked #9 out of 25.
    Not sure where you found the #9 score but here is one list of the "cheapest" countries:

    Here’s a complete ranking of the "cheapest" countries to retire in 2018:


    Rank: 1 = Cheapest Country Cost of Living Index Rent Index Groceries Index Local Purchasing Power Index Healthcare Index
    1 India 27.65 6.95 28.59 75.22 67.39
    2 Saudi Arabia 49.57 14.81 42.97 127.01 60.19
    3 Mexico 34.58 10.32 32.17 61.25 68.62
    4 Czech Republic 48.73 17.02 43.51 77.21 75.36
    5 Germany 75.40 29.86 59.62 128.19 75.44
    6 Turkey 41.19 9.01 36.29 55.22 70.42
    7 Taiwan 66.20 15.01 81.01 99.72 82.00
    8 South Africa 48.83 19.34 41.06 97.78 62.96
    9 Spain 62.58 23.00 53.17 87.64 77.49
    10 Estonia 58.00 16.05 43.86 74.63 71.35
    11 Sri Lanka 37.72 9.88 41.98 27.62 77.94
    12 Colombia 35.97 11.21 30.75 37.02 67.80
    13 Poland 45.48 16.29 36.34 70.97 62.08
    14 Pakistan 29.15 7.64 26.98 44.57 57.47
    15 Macedonia 38.51 9.26 30.70 41.99 62.73
    16 Argentina 56.05 15.58 48.19 60.03 71.31
    17 Portugal 55.11 18.99 45.78 64.34 69.50
    18 Lithuania 52.97 13.96 42.40 57.82 66.81
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    Thailand 51.03 17.89 57.68 40.47 80.87
    20 China 45.71 25.27 47.06 79.18 62.88
    21 Philippines 39.76 12.86 39.37 34.32 68.22
    22 Romania 39.33 10.09 32.80 57.46 54.56
    23 Netherlands 82.31 38.39 67.42 106.65 81.08
    24 Malaysia 48.16 11.66 55.07 61.20 65.64
    25 Canada 73.49 29.94 71.91 115.53 70.58
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    United Kingdom
    76.88
    33.94
    63.65
    107.10
    74.19
    27 Finland 85.72 31.65 72.50 116.76 75.40
    28 Indonesia 40.85 8.82 45.41 35.00 65.95
    29 Austria 82.85 29.80 78.67 100.14 78.80
    30 Croatia 56.16 12.39 47.62 56.82 63.83
    31 Belgium 85.58 30.06 75.92 95.81 80.43
    32 France 84.16 29.20 78.13 100.42 78.03
    33 Ukraine 26.77 9.14 20.89 30.07 50.11
    34 Bulgaria 41.62 9.15 36.51 53.65 52.11
    35 Australia 83.28 42.67 80.16 123.19 76.21
    36 Serbia 40.07 8.49 31.06 42.45 53.42
    37 Sweden 82.82 31.96 76.17 116.75 70.42
    38 United Arab Emirates 65.64 53.66 55.46 126.09 63.48
    39 Russia 42.66 16.46 36.17 49.09 56.77
    40 Slovakia 55.35 19.94 49.39 59.58 64.42
    41 Slovenia 65.47 20.62 54.76 74.70 64.69
    42 Cyprus 63.24 17.60 51.88 88.97 55.06
    43 Denmark 93.56 37.43 74.27 109.71 77.07
    44 Israel 86.16 36.90 71.26 104.60 74.05
    45 Qatar 66.12 66.84 57.95 120.86 70.50
    46 Egypt 25.14 4.89 23.21 24.51 44.42
    47 New Zealand 84.10 36.12 78.44 109.14 71.95
    48 Chile 56.85 17.85 48.15 50.65 61.90
    49 Japan 90.88 28.51 99.10 97.99 81.72
    50 Bangladesh 33.64 6.83 31.89 37.72 44.56

    https://www.gobankingrates.com/retir...ies-to-retire/

    Many sites are USA based and consequently list Central and South American countries as very "acceptable". Note Thailand is #19 and the UK comes in at #26. I suspect the numbers are based on "city living" rather than out in "the sticks/rural". Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar, unsurprisingly, don't make the list at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Now, to the real Thailand: pretty temples, pretty girls, excellent food, reasonable cost-of-living, minimal taxation, fine beaches, culture, diversity… then, add in the pollution, vermin, traffic, police, immigration, food, poverty, noise, smells, attitudes, crime, culture (other side of the coin), language, military…
    One suspects the "add ins" may be found in many countries. Whether better or worse than Thailand, I'll leave up to you to judge.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Many visit, some relocate, a few stay, some leave… vacationing here is quite different from living here.
    Agree, make sure you can exit, if you find the country unacceptable.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    A successful expat retirement takes a certain type of individual with a good amount of flexibility, living in a foreign country is not for the meek.
    Many would never consider leaving their home country, agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    My biggest concern is the political/military administration, things can go south in an instant.

    Should the proverbial shit hit the fan I’m at the mercy of my extended family and the US Embassy…
    Not only in Thailand, as we all know. Always have a "personal/dependents" exit/fuck it plan.
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    Hey, I could go back and ask the Lao guy that sold up in France to buy a piece of this Island the cost. But I figure that is just rude.

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    I'm calling bullshit on that index, sorry though i cannot be bothered to justify why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post

    Hey, I could go back and ask the Lao guy that sold up in France to buy a piece of this Island the cost. But I figure that is just rude.
    Fish, can he own the land?

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    I haven't figured out if it's me, the drone ( no not mrs fish) the wifi, or uploading thats causing the blurred vision. Until I get back to reality I'll blame King Robert.

    And Hail the beer Lao drinkers. The good years yet to come for us all. Cbeers, the fishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Oh oh, bit of a boo boo.
    I know generally it always is.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Who the funk do you think the fish is?
    I was under the impression you were pretty content with your setup.

    In my experience when employing locals to do a job, you have to ensure what the real requirements are and that your workers understand what is and is not acceptable. Of course it's "the felang way" and some locals may not be able to accept a different method or standard.

    I believe given the right, clear instructions, Thais are more than able and willing, to perform well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    That's what I like about this place.
    That's it, in a nut shell. Always trying it on but always able, with a smile, to make a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Fish, can he own the land?
    He is Lao, moved to France, made enough to jump back is what I surmised. As for myself a different deal. Gf is a US citizen now. Don't know how that affects status here. Names on titles ect. These folks know what I bought here and there.

    They do have plat mapps ect. Monuments demarcating lot lines ect. As for legality it's in sils hands as far as I know even though mama is still fine.

    They know I can blast off at any time and thus should be anyone's plan if venturing into the unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    I'm calling bullshit on that index,
    It was the only one I found which included SE Asia.

    The other USA sites seem to believe Central and South American countries are better than Thailand, go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The other USA sites seem to believe Central and South American countries are better than Thailand, go figure.
    No offense intended but the cost of living just looks wrong.

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    Looking around I guess I should be content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    He is Lao, moved to France, made enough to jump back is what I surmised. As for myself a different deal. Gf is a US citizen now. Don't know how that affects status here. Names on titles ect. These folks know what I bought here and there. .
    Interesting, he probably v happy.

    Sounds that you like me still have / will retain most of your capital outside your wife's country.

    Me, aside from the pick up and a bike + some cash in the bank - everything else is pretty much hers, does that bother me, no. Could i walk away and care about the house, land etc - yep not a problem, i've already written it off, been drip fed paid for over years by both of us and don't notice it.

    If / when i retire it'll be c 5-7 month in Thailand, the rest in the UK and France where i have me other places, she'l come too but the point is that when i began this adventure and investment it was always knowing that it all went to her and the family; probably no more in value terms than 10m THB but that is over years and some wise ish investments where my real outlay is quite a bit less than that. I'm happy with the outcome, she works and saves c 30k thb monthly so really - she don't need me for money but she couldn't live without me.......

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    I do recall back in '09 a British couple that retired to I believe the British Virgin Islands with they said back then about 1.75 million usd. Well we know what happened next and they were unsure if they would live out thier retirement dreams on their funds.

    Now I don’t know what they were in to or any of that ect. But I will say this for certain, unless you know the depth of the water, don't dive in.

    fish.

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    NamPikToot, glad to hear it. sook dee doo. Sorry, I suck at this transliteration stuff.

    Long life, healthy living, Scotch Whisky and Smiles. I think that's What it means anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    No offense intended but the cost of living just looks wrong.
    Allegedly this site was used for the Cost of living:

    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/

    They survey 27 cities in Thailand.

    A link to their Bangkok page:

    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Bangkok

    Bangkok Summary

    Summary about cost of living in Bangkok (Jan 2019):


    • Four-person family monthly costs: 76,716.01฿ without rent (using our estimator).
    • A single person monthly costs: 21,261.95฿ without rent.
    • Cost of living index in Bangkok is 44.51% lower than in New York.
    • Cost of living rank 218th out of 437 cities in the world.
    • Bangkok has a cost of living index of 55.49.
    Last edited by OhOh; 12-01-2019 at 01:00 AM.

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    Damn. Good thing this shitbox is paid off.

    660usd to get by in Bkk? Including healthcare? That's the big if.

    If this happens then what? Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Allegedly this site was used for the Cost of living:
    OhOh i'm not really disputing Thailand just the position of some other countries look odd

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    Is this correct? 3000usd without rent? Is this assuming you have a home?
    For a family of four.

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    All these indices are really pretty much redundant as soon as they are published unless your income is derived in the countries currency, exchange rates.........

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