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    This is the sort of shit posted by some fucking loser who got caught cheating on his farang wife and was promptly taken to the cleaners.

    Now he has a Thai bird he is "in control" *snigger*.

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    Same guy was holding forth cluelessly on that snooker hall shooting a few days ago.

    Obviously almost as dumb as cujo.

    Actually, so dumb and in such a cliched way that it could be a wind up.

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    If you don't think the speaker in that video was talking sense you're the dumbass.
    Unless that is you can explain what it is that upsets you about her point of view.
    Which you can't because there's nothing specific.
    You're one of the people she talks about.
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    "In my professional assessment as an intelligence officer, Trump has a reflexive, defensive, monumentally narcissistic personality, for whom the facts and national interest are irrelevant, and the only thing that counts is whatever gives personal advantage and directs attention to himself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    If you don't think the speaker in that video was talking sense you're the dumbass.
    Unless that is you can explain what it is that upsets you about her point of view.
    Wow, how stupid was that before the edit?

    Discussing Paglia's points here is about as worthwhile as 'discussing' Kant with a goldfish.

    How you've reached the absurd conclusions above only you will know.

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    Doesnít matter what the subject is, posters on here and elsewhere insist on blaming the so called snowflakes or millennials.
    I have just been involved in a similar debate about Cambridge Union students banning Remembrance Sunday as it Ďcelebratesí and glorifies war.
    It matters not that they are wrong about the reasons for remembrance. They are young and as the demographic on here suggests, their only experience of war, will be the rather pointless and destructive issues in the ME and Afghanistan.
    They didnít grow up playing in WWII bomb shelters, regaled by the experiences of their parents and grandparents, during the last century.

    All they know is the political disasters in Lybia, Syria and Iraq, Afghanistan. Thereís a lot to be said for experiential learning.
    Dont be blaming kids because they donít have your experiences of the pointless stupidity of political wars.

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    when should we put them back in burkas and beat them if they step outsode the walled yard ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Doesn’t matter what the subject is, posters on here and elsewhere insist on blaming the so called snowflakes or millennials.
    I have just been involved in a similar debate about Cambridge Union students banning Remembrance Sunday as it ‘celebrates’ and glorifies war.
    If you are going to have a debate, it's important to have knowledge of the subject at hand.

    It was not about "banning Remembrance Sunday".

    It was a motion to promote Remembrance Sunday and the selling of poppies.

    Many felt that Cambridge should be remembering all victims of all wars, and separate itself from links with Arms companies, presumably some of which donate to the university.

    In the end neither the original nor and alternative motion were presented.

    Remembrance Day carries on, and poppies will be sold.

    It's up to the individual to participate, as it should be, not be told what to do by a load of entitled Tory Toffs doing what mater and pater tell them.

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    This is more of a summary and some of my "quotes" may be slightly off but,
    I found her to be extremely well-informed, enlightened and possibly a little ahead of the times in her thinking.


    I'd have to agree that 2nd wave feminism has never recognized men's achievements throughout history. She compares her favorite time (1st wave) in feminism when Amelia Earhart not only recognized male successes but admired them and used them as driving points towards strengthening her own abilities.


    We've always had significantly more male serial killers and conversely more notable male geniuses. She claims this is due to indisputable biological and societal-driven differences between the sexes (i.e. men are more visually stimulated). The very same differences being suppressed by modern feminists in academia today and they're succeeding.


    While males typically span the IQ spectrum, women have traditionally landed in the middle. "You have no female Mozarts for the same reason you have no female Jack the Rippers."


    Since men have historically worked towards diversion and ultimately triumph or defeat, suppressing (even lying about) those (obvious) differences among the sexes can ultimately leave some personality types of women more susceptible to (and ignorant of) the dangerous types of males out there who see them as prey.


    On condemning the current educational system, she said, "there's too much 'feel good,' nonsense instead of hard to face facts," i.e. rising crime rates, etc.


    Universities have gravitated towards trying to fix the present with less knowledge about the past, world cultures and varying societies. Education should be "an abstract and detached study of history vs the global present."


    She's an atheist who believes that most humans still need religion. The phasing out of historic religions has only paved the way for the new religion of political correctness and it's spreading like a cancer of sorts.


    Any form of dissent (even within 2nd wave feminism) is treated as heresy. She was a direct victim of this when the fem org went after her job (tenure?) after she published a book or article on date rape back when that was a relatively new term. Date rape portrays females as dumb or weak, therefore they came after her for exposing the issue as a real concern and phenomenon.


    HER Final thoughts: YOU are responsible for your own education. Don't rely on your institutions, books, teachers. The forgotten (or quashed) voices are in the library. Go explore for yourself.


    I like her. She's enthusiastic, observant, clearly well-read, differentiates realism from fanaticism and challenges the system.
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    Less we forget the Goddess.
    Matriarchy has always ruled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Wow, how stupid was that before the edit?

    Discussing Paglia's points here is about as worthwhile as 'discussing' Kant with a goldfish.

    How you've reached the absurd conclusions above only you will know.
    Exactly. Nothing to say as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    If you don't think the speaker in that video was talking sense
    For me, and some of the original put-downers, it had nothing to do with the sense of her speech and everything to do with her being an extremely irritating speaker. A manic uneloquent speaker.
    Just that.

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    Cyrill is the perfect example of the type of snowflake that tries to shut the conversation down should anyone dare suggest that the whole feminist/SJW thing has gone off the rails.
    She's annoying but makes some very valid arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Cyrill is the perfect example of the type of snowflake that tries to shut the conversation down should anyone dare suggest that the whole feminist/SJW thing has gone off the rails.
    She's annoying but makes some very valid arguments.
    When you say "she's annoying" were you referring to the speaker in the OP vid or Cyrille?
    I think, as does the speaker, that feminism has gone off the rails and she does make some valid points.

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    Pagilia is a brave intellectual who takes on any and all intellectuals she disagrees with. she has said it's better to name the person you disagree with and say the reason why rather than robe yourself in intellectual b.s. that swims around the point trying to be made (or something to that effect).

    i'm looking forward to reading her book that just came out: Provocations: Collected Essays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    This is more of a summary .....
    Thanks for that, hick. It was helpful. After reading it, I watched the video all the way through (the first 2 minutes were the worst).

    Everything she said in the video sounded plausible, and I'd never heard of second wave feminism so I'll take it at face value.

    If I was to criticise anything, apart from her presentation style, it would be that she says she now self-censors when she's teaching because she feels her students can't take harsh reality/are easily upset/are snowflakes. That seems to go against her professed attitude earlier in her life ("give us the freedom to risk rape"). Apart from that, OK. Some is quite interesting. Hard to be too critical. For me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
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    Matriarchy has always ruled.
    yes - reminds me of a movie

    bad boy bubby

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If you are going to have a debate, it's important to have knowledge of the subject at hand.
    Sounds like you're promoting the use of facts and letting the truth get in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cisco999 View Post
    Sounds like you're promoting the use of facts and letting the truth get in the way.
    Oh fuck, silly me, what on earth was I thinking.


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    Ok, I watched the whole video.

    This "second Wave" feminism sounds exactly like my Thai wife, so I don't understand the point of "this is why men come to Thailand".

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy View Post
    Ok, I watched the whole video.

    This "second Wave" feminism sounds exactly like my Thai wife, so I don't understand the point of "this is why men come to Thailand".
    So YD where does that leave you?

    Why you always all on my back?
    Why you gotta do me like that?
    Why you gotta act like a bitch when I'm with you?
    Baby girl I'm blue
    Because you treat me like shit
    I paid for the bed and never even slept in it
    I paid for that crib and never stepped foot in
    And now somebody else is eating all the pudding
    Things change, now my dashboard wooden
    All black Benz, like a young Doc Gooden
    Dark shades, cause I'm stone crazy
    Girl, we grown, stop playing on my phone, baby
    All your childish attempts to make me angry fall short
    Which only fuels the rage you have, because you have nothing
    Understandable, I'm shining brilliant with five Brazilians
    There were times I used to hide my feelings
    Now I'm butt naked in the Lamborghini
    And motherfuckers can't see me
    Wait 'til this chick see me on TV, I make the shit look easy
    Who would've thought I hit you right back?
    Why you always all on my back?
    Why you gotta do me like that?
    Why you gotta act like a bitch when I'm with you?
    Baby girl I'm blue
    So many women wanna call me baby
    And you wonder why the fuck that I ain't call you lately
    Some would say that I'm the symbol for sex and uh
    Others would hate, but I don't give 'em no breath
    Go on a date, I'm at the crib with the chef and uh, that's me
    And you could order whatever
    The specialty is white snake and underwear sauce
    You could probably catch me somewhere where the sun is next
    And I understand that's only cause I'm popular
    I'm getting topped off in the front row of the opera
    As Bocelli sings the celly rings
    I gotta go, you'll never know how good it feels to lay in bed with king
    I'm not exactly flawless, but I'm gorgeous, just like a horse is
    I know the thought of me succeeding makes a lot of people nauseous
    Still I'm on the back of the boat taking pictures with the swordfish
    Why you always all on my back?
    Why you gotta do me like that?
    Why you gotta act like a bitch when I'm with you?
    Baby girl I'm blue
    I hope you get a paper cut on your tongue
    From a razor in a paper cup
    I hope every soda you drink already shaken up
    I hope your dreams dry like raisins in the baking sun
    I hope your titties all saggy in your early 20's
    I hope there's always snow in your driveway
    I hope you never get off Fridays
    And you work at a Friday's that's always busy on Fridays
    I hope you win the lottery and lose your ticket
    I hope it's Ben and Socrates poop all up in your kitchen
    I hope the zipper on your jacket get stuck
    And your headphones short, and your charger don't work
    And you spill shit on your shirt
    I hope your tears don't hurt, and I can smile in your face
    Cut my losses, how Delilah changed my locks to a fade
    I hope you happy, I hope you happy
    I hope you ruined this shit for a reason, I hope you happy, igh
    Why you always all on my back?
    Why you gotta do me like that?
    Why you gotta act like a bitch when I'm with you?
    Baby girl I'm blue
    La la la la

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    Yes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourDaddy View Post
    Yes....

    Took me ages to type that shit.

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    ^ learn how to C&P next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Less we forget the Goddess.
    Matriarchy has always ruled.
    See, I told you Jeff was a mummy's boy.

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