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    apparently the Beast can only take 300 bullets, after that the glass breaks

    basically, it's all about buying time for an escape

    I seem to remember Trump complaining how thick those windows there, and deforming the exterior view for him, while people were throwing him eggs

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    the whole security detail of POTUS is ridiculous these days,

    it's the trademark of fascism and dictators, at par with Hitler security detail and paranoia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    the whole security detail of POTUS is ridiculous these days,

    it's the trademark of fascism and dictators, at par with Hitler security detail and paranoia

    ....and the deluded fantasy of importance or value of any American President [or any head-of-state].

    Pariahs.
    Fuck 'em all.

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    even for Trump it is too much,

    Obama certainly fell for it,

    Bush was probably too stupid to realize it,

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    Let's be under no Ilyushin here. I don't think or don't like the idea of Rocker Boy giving up his nuclear weapons. Why should he? If Qaddafi or Hussein had nuclear weapons they would still be alive.

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    UPDATE ... the plot thickens

    Kim Jong-un surprises by flying to Singapore summit with Donald Trump on Air China plane, not private jet


    Kim Jong-un is on his way to the North Korea-US summit in Singapore

    North Korean leader Kim Jong-un appears to be flying directly to Singapore on an Air China Boeing 747, instead of using his
    personal Ilyushin-62M jet.


    In an unusual move this morning, an Air China 747 left Beijing at 4:18am to Pyongyang, where it spent about an hour on
    the tarmac before taking off.


    Initially the flight appeared destined for Beijing, but according to flight tracking data it changed its flight number to CA61
    as it flew past the Chinese capital and is due to arrive in Singapore in the early afternoon.


    The flight follows the path of a Air China Airbus A330 that departed Pyongyang yesterday for Singapore maintaining a
    route over Chinese territory for as long as possible.


    That flight was likely carrying North Korean officials.
    Neither North Korea nor China have revealed details of how Mr Kim is travelling to Singapore, but Singapore's Ministry of
    Foreign Affairs said he was due to meet the island-state's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong later on Sunday.


    Separately, a North Korean cargo plane that accompanied Mr Kim's plane on his visit to the city of Dalian in May has
    reportedly been tracked refuelling in China's southern Guangdong province before continuing on to Singapore.


    Could be on this Plane ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Let's be under no Ilyushin here. I don't think or don't like the idea of Rocker Boy giving up his nuclear weapons. Why should he? If Qaddafi or Hussein had nuclear weapons they would still be alive.
    And he knows it very well thats why he went about obtaining them ignoring the howls, sanctions and threats of those who want him defenseless.

    But he will never use them to attack anyone only as a retaliation if attacked for he knows that if he did attack his country would be leveled to the ground and left a nuke wasteland for years to come. The same would happen if he is attacked for there is no way he could win, his defense is to be able to do unacceptable damage to an attacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...looks very...Soviet...
    ...looks very...Boeing-727_ish, instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    And he knows it very well thats why he went about obtaining them ignoring the howls, sanctions and threats of those who want him defenseless.

    But he will never use them to attack anyone only as a retaliation if attacked for he knows that if he did attack his country would be leveled to the ground and left a nuke wasteland for years to come. The same would happen if he is attacked for there is no way he could win, his defense is to be able to do unacceptable damage to an attacker.
    Ditto!

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    it basically means that Kim has Chinese protection, so anything happen to him, it's an act of war against the Chinese

    Trump OWNED again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    the whole security detail of POTUS is ridiculous these days,

    it's the trademark of fascism and dictators, at par with Hitler security detail and paranoia
    You're definitely mixing (very skewed) apples w/ oranges on that ^ one. Fyi ~ Adolf Hitler was a dictator, but actually not a Fascist. Surprise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    You're definitely mixing (very skewed) apples w/ oranges on that ^ one. Fyi ~ Adolf Hitler was a dictator, but actually not a Fascist. Surprise!
    he was a Nazi, not a fascist, dictator

    and your point was ????

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    ^^






    They both appear to like being talked down too, whilst sitting in an impossible situation. Hitler at least, looks as if he understood what was being discussed. The POTUSE appears to be in his safe space. Trying to figure out what the topic is about.

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    The Japanese party already have robots which satisfy all pleasures and are relaxed and knowledgable intimately, with the Sphincter Expansion Limits (SELIT) mechanics, software and especially "resource requirements".

    The G5 want more hygiene and religious standards, the POTUSE wants BIGGER ameristani buttock movement, an ameristani already has the IP registered.

    Hence the impasse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen View Post
    Adolf Hitler was a dictator, but actually not a Fascist.
    Nazism is a form of fascism you utter buffoon. Hitler modeled himself and the Nazi party after Mussolini and Italian fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    North Korean leader Kim Jong-un appears to be flying directly to Singapore on an Air China Boeing 747, instead of using his
    personal Ilyushin-62M jet.
    Looks like he arrived safely. Does this mean China can see ameristani sanctions on Air China? Or will Boeing's bought and paid for political puppets, realising the profits to be made, veto any legislation , "because it's worth it" to their own exceptional lifestyle?



    No news of the Chinese unarmed fighter protection, but I'm sure there are defensive weapons/EW Suite of available Boeing 747 optional extras list for "exceptional" clients. Or even Chinese designed, manufactured and installed superior defensive options.


    Additional opinions:

    "A second theoretical reason is a desire to fly on the same aircraft type that President Donald Trump is currently using, a Boeing 747-400. Arriving on an ancient and noisy IL-62 would denote inferiority. The particular plane that he used, with registration number B-2447:
    …is quite special. B-2447 is used by the top rungs of the Chinese government, predominantly President Xi Jinping and his entourage, when traveling abroad. It is capable of being specially outfitted with a VIP interior and has special interfaces for secure satellite communications among other modifications.

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    IMO, trump and kim will make a lot of progress.

    though, like reagan and gorbachev: implementation will take time.

    why will kim put up the nukes for inspection and will this meeting have some successes?

    1. he went to school in switzerland and knows that nk should open up.

    2. he never leaves nk (afraid of coups, etc), but left for this meeting.

    3. unlike dubya invading afghanistan/iraq and obama taking out gaddafi and supporting terrorists in syria,

    trump doesn't give a shite about whether other countries are democratic, etc.

    he's a realist.

    kim might think he can make a deal with trump as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Nazism is a form of fascism you utter buffoon. Hitler modeled himself and the Nazi party after Mussolini and Italian fascism.
    Where do you get this stuff from, Nationalist socialist workers party, nothing to do with Fascism,

    As a form of government National socialism, was the most effective from of government the world has ever seen, Germany went from broke to the most powerful nation on earth.

    If Hitler had settled for that, without taking on the rest of the world in war, the EU would have come about without a shot fired.

    The new National socialist Europe is being born, said on here years ago, all this PC crap, immigration and the problems it brings, was to get the populations to get off their ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    he was a Nazi, not a fascist, dictator

    and your point was ????
    Never mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Nazism is a form of fascism you utter buffoon. Hitler modeled himself and the Nazi party after Mussolini and Italian fascism.
    You're absolutely, academically correct,........as usual. Cheers
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    Back on subject ...


    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has arrived in Singapore and will be keen to win concessions for the North Korean economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has arrived in Singapore
    ...arrived by blimp, I see...

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    ^^ Why no Air Koryo?


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    US says N Korea talks moving quickly, Trump to leave early

    SINGAPORE (AP) — President Donald Trump plans to depart early from his unprecedented summit with Kim Jong Un, the White House said Monday, declaring that nuclear talks with North Korea have moved "more quickly than expected."

    Trump had been scheduled to fly back to Washington on Wednesday morning after spending Tuesday with the North Korean leader in Singapore. But on the eve of the summit, he altered his schedule, opting to return at about 8 p.m. on Tuesday after a full day of meetings with Kim — almost 15 hours earlier than previously anticipated.


    "The discussions between the United States and North Korea are ongoing and have moved more quickly than expected," the White House said in a statement.


    It wasn't immediately clear what specific progress, if any, had been made in preliminary discussions between U.S. and North Korean officials in the run-up to the Tuesday summit. In fact, only hours before the White House announcement, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had seemed to lower expectations for the meeting, which Trump had earlier predicted could potentially yield an on-the-spot deal to end the Korean War.


    "We are hopeful this summit will have set the conditions for future successful talks," Pompeo said on Monday evening.

    US says NKorea talks moving quickly, Trump to leave early

    Translation:

    He hasnt got what he demanded so will take his toys and go home.

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    How can they say that when they haven't even met yet?

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    ...tRump can say anything he wants...the dirt will come out later...

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