Thread: We've really fucked this world up, haven't we.

Originally Posted by crackerjack101

Where did you get the TDS from?

https://www.dhgate.com/product/2016-...386557751.html

Originally Posted by Switch

The huge profit margins on bottled water will motivate the companies responsible to eradicate the problem.

Cant see them walking away from a cash cow like water.

Hmmm....
Rather naive regarding the conglomerates and the easily dumbed-down populations, aren't we Charles?

Just got back from a shop with wife.
With this issue in mind I contrasted teh ancient mom and pop stioes here with their rice sacks, bill hooks and stuff in cardboard box and hanging from the wall in a ramshackle display like my grans shop.Lotus and 7-11 now three here are wiping out these places and not sure kids will want to slave in working in

"Open ALl Hours type stores"


Then I looked at the 7/11 which like all modern stores is a mass of plastic not just the product , then the multi matrial blister pack , you know that really ridiculously tough plastic you tear at your risk or need a blade , glued to a card printed pack often with metal , bubble wrap/foams etc foils and a of course a staple to tread on,
According to aUK envronmental Officer I met this mixed waste is hard and therefore expensive to recycle




How did it come to this ?, well the makers and vendors are not responsible for the recycle, i.e the total cost.


Not sure Thailand is any worse per capita for despite the endless food in bags with ellastic the disposable income and level of cnsumption I 'd guess is still much less here in the sticks than EU or US Oz etc but still noticeably higher than 20 years ago when fewer Thais had Cars, new homes with Aircon and free spending money, 1997 austerity was ok if you didnt' lose your investments had a job

Pure rain water will do.
Problem resolved.


The water wars, and strategic schemes, became apparent a generation ago and continue to this day - quite accepted.
Pawns. Per usual.

Originally Posted by HuangLao

Pure rain water will do.
Problem resolved.


The water wars, and strategic schemes, became apparent a generation ago and continue to this day - quite accepted.
Pawns. Per usual.

And just where in the world is that enough for a countries human consumption?

It's not just the fish that are affected, the marine mammals & birds who feed from the sea are affected too. In the docu "A plastic ocean" (I don't know if it's the same vid that has been posted - can't watch, slow net) - the digestive tracts of those mammals and birds were full of micro and macro plastics.

Originally Posted by aging one

And just where in the world is that enough for a countries human consumption?

Exactly. Unnecessary over consumption, use, and waste. Conditioned in the manner.
Shouldn't be surprised that you, and others, are missing the bigger picture - or any picture, for that matter.

Contemporary disconnected Occidental thought.

Originally Posted by HuangLao

Exactly. Unnecessary over consumption, use, and waste. Conditioned in the manner.
Shouldn't be surprised that you, and others, are missing the bigger picture - or any picture, for that matter.

Contemporary disconnected Occidental thought.

stop thinking like a Thai... Agriculture takes plenty of water. I grew up on tap water in Saudi Arabia and Marin county. The answer is much easier in many developed countries. Drink the tap water..... Come on bro, you cant always be the Buddah or Mahatma...


Go after the advertisers for the bottled water companies..
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Originally Posted by crackerjack101

Read on with link below;

From the article:-

Currently, there is no evidence that ingesting very small pieces of plastic (microplastics) can cause harm

So what is all the fuss about?

Originally Posted by aging one

Drink the tap water.

...or just go to the source: put a straw into a klong...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...or just go to the source: put a straw into a klong...

555 or

Just had some nestle water.

Yolo

...we prefer the chewy plastic strands in Crystal water...

Originally Posted by HuangLao

Unnecessary over consumption, use, and waste. Conditioned in the manner.

Exactly.
Eastern-centric cultural indoctrination of entitlement & superiority does that.
Refuse straws & plastic bags at oriental over-supplying consumerist outlets.

Originally Posted by stroller

Refuse straws & plastic bags at oriental over-supplying consumerist outlets.

Absolutely always do at what we call down our way the SEVEN

Is it any better in rich clean eco West Germany Strolls?

I remember bottle deposits in Scandanavia .It doesn't have to be big enough that kids will collect here 4-7 baht per bottle?

I was in Harlingen Friesland near Emden last year and everything spotless, lots of Dutch and German sailing fans but little plastic or trash

Anyone care to shed some light on why the air quality in Vientiane is at 175. Is it due to burning the rice fields this time of year.

Also no info on southern Laos. I've heard talk by the farmers stating that the winds out of China cause a type of unhealthy rain and actually hurts the plants sometimes.

Not sure if rain water is the best option Jeff. One doctor I knew (passed on now) would not trust even the bottled water in Laos and he would basically boil it and recondense it. I'm not certain that is good for you either.

Any thoughts on the air quality will be appreciated as I honestly have never been in the area during this time of year. It appears worse than Bangkok in VTE and Chiang Mai. How is southern Laos this time of year and in summer?

Thanks in advance for any valid imput.

Getting back to water so I don't offended some seemingly easily agitated members. Link below about water.


20 Benefits and Dangers of Drinking Distilled Water Regularly

The interesting question should be, just how long have they really had all this information?

I'm sure the multinational plastic water suppliers, do there own testing.

Originally Posted by david44

Absolutely always do at what we call down our way the SEVEN

Is it any better in rich clean eco West Germany Strolls?

I remember bottle deposits in Scandanavia .It doesn't have to be big enough that kids will collect here 4-7 baht per bottle?

I was in Harlingen Friesland near Emden last year and everything spotless, lots of Dutch and German sailing fans but little plastic or trash

Don't let such surface nonsense fool ya....part of the bigger picture problem.

Oddly enough I think I can smell what you've been smoking.
No joke, not only is the production of plastic wicked but the removal of such much worse in places that don't know how or are not willing to take the measures to repurpose the used products. To sort and melt down they, the polymers could be reused repeatedly. Unfortunately society is just now coming to terms with that.
I saw this in Asia where Yogi Bear isn't there along with wWoodsy Owl ,You know give a hoot don't pollute.
Sadly folks are left to deal with this stuff on their own in many places. The stench of smoldering plastics is no joke. Maybe I answered my own question in that the air quality of breathing Nylon,Celcon or Polypropylene is just not good.

Celcon over 400F produces what is known as tear gas.

So yes I must agree with the op, we really f'd the place up.