Thread: British pub landlord faces jail for writing 'death to Allah' on Qatar Airways seat

Originally Posted by kmart

Poor bloke probably just having a nicotine withdrawal fit of pique.. Jailing in the UK for "Islamophobia"...WTF??

He didnt get charged with "Islamophobia" though , he got charged with "Religiously aggravated criminal damage" .
That applies to all Religions, not just Islam .
You make it sound like there are special laws for Islam

Originally Posted by baldrick

this should have been the argument in court - though obviously this twat wrote what he did in an attempt to insult the religious views of the airways staff

I would guess prior to his literary debut he would have been volubly dribbling the sh1t

He's probably some kind of hero on the BNP forums.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I am not sure how this constitutes a crime. It is not possible to kill someone who does not exist. You may as well say death to the tooth fairy, brare rabbit or paddington bear. The political correctness in the U.K. now borders on repression. One may argue it is disresptful to Islam and therefore its' followers but disrespect in itself is not a crime. Unfortunately this is the result of allowing left wing thought to dominate the social and political agenda and is proving to be as equally oppressive as the right wing agenda. At best one can say this man was expressing a private thought and is demonstrating his right to freedom of speech. If he had written death to God (Although one could argue that allah and God are not the same entities), he would have at worst been charged with vandalising the arm rest. In Australia some of the vindictiveness directed towards people who do not support Gay marriage has shown how independant thought contrary to left wing ideals will no longer be tolerated as this far left cancer spreads around the world.

Imagine if a trendy left-wing comedian had done it, in a kind of ironic way...

Originally Posted by Fluke

He didnt get charged with "Islamophobia" though , he got charged with "Religiously aggravated criminal damage" .
That applies to all Religions, not just Islam .
You make it sound like there are special laws for Islam

See if that works with scribbling "Jedis are nerf herders" in the air with your sparkler this bonfire night...

Nobody's spoken about the shitty service...

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

See if that works with scribbling "Jedis are nerf herders" in the air with your sparkler this bonfire night...

Jedi is not a Religion though and writing something with a sparkler doesnt cause any damage

You haven't heard of the epidemic of offendedness striking Britain dumb?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I am not sure how this constitutes a crime.

Nah, you wouldn't, must be normal to scribble on seats and leave derogatory notes at other passengers' feet where you come from.

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Nobody's spoken about the shitty service...

Their front cabins are among the best in the business for service, food and comfort.

Now, if he'd been taken commensurate action on BA I'd be starting a "Free Joey Breslin" campaign.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

pleaded guilty to two charges of religiously aggravated harassment

The simple solution is: Ban all religion.

Once religious indoctrination of children is banned it should be one generation away from a better, less religiousy harrassmenty World.

The trouble is that "religion" is on the same spectrum as "politics" and "gangs"... it's the "jailing people for offendedness" shit that's the problem... fine people, by all means, problem sorted, doing anything else is basically fascist.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

The trouble is that "religion" is on the same spectrum as "politics" and "gangs"... it's the "jailing people for offendedness" shit that's the problem... fine people, by all means, problem sorted, doing anything else is basically fascist.

Although he isnt being charged with causing offence .
He is being charged with criminal damage and harassment

Superficially, yes... but who amongst us is blind to the underpinning "offence"? Has he prevented a flight from operating? Has he caused persons aboard to genuinely feel fear (it's so easy to abuse the letter of laws to feign fear and offence).

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Just in case you have trouble sprechen ze English. He was not charged with criminal damage or defacing property in which case there would be no argument, you semen swallowing sausage sucker.... A derogatory note where I come from?

Breslin, from Bromley, south London, pleaded guilty to two charges of religiously aggravated harassment and one count of religiously aggravated criminal damage at Isleworth Crown Court, the Evening Standard reported on Wednesday"

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

, you semen swallowing sausage sucker.... A derogatory note where I come from? No snow flake, we say it to your face in Oz.

Cogito Ergo Sum

So in Australia , you dont send derogatory notes to people , you say it to their faces ?
You wouldnt send someone a message saying "you semen swallowing sausage sucker" by writing , you would say it to their face ?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Just in case you have trouble sprechen ze English.

No plobrem, mate.

What about you, have you grasped what he has been charged & convicted for, or does your English-BoganRetard translation device need new batteries?

Originally Posted by Fluke

So in Australia , you dont send derogatory notes to people , you say it to their faces ?
You wouldnt send someone a message saying "you semen swallowing sausage sucker" by writing , you would say it to their face ?

Exactly. Fuck your quick on the uptake fluke.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Breslin, from Bromley, south London, pleaded guilty to two charges of religiously aggravated harassment and one count of religiously aggravated criminal damage at Isleworth Crown Court, the Evening Standard reported on Wednesday"

Wow, so now in a technologically advanced modern liberal democracy you can be prosecuted for wishing harm upon a made-up ubiquitous omnipotent mythological figure? It's beyond parody. I wonder if the Greek government has been following this, "religiously aggravated criminal damage", with respect to the Elgin marbles? Athena must be avenged, surely...?



Just a fine for replacing the section of material on the chair is all that's required, surely?

In case you forgot to read the OP.

A London pub landlord is facing jail after he wrote "death to Allah" on the armrest of his Qatar Airways business class seat because he was angry with the service.

Joseph Breslin, 36, also scrawled an Islamophobic message on a napkin, attacking Muslims wearing headscarves, and dropped it between two passengers as the plane landed in Heathrow.

"As the plane was coming to land, one of the crew noticed him scribbling on the armrest of the seat," said prosecutor Bill McGivern.

"He then left his seat and went between two other passengers, leaving a note which was very derogatory towards people who wear headscarves and it said 'death to Allah.'

The defendant sems to beleieve that Allah was responsible for the service on the plane.

...he wrote "death to Allah" on the armrest of his Qatar Airways business class seat because he was angry with the service.

Jeremy Wainwright, mitigating, said ...

"The words on the armrest related to the plane service generally, and the fact he had become tired and irritated and that was directed at the airline."

not very smart of him, of course, as many muslims are thin-skinned about criticism of their religion.

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take this case for example:

A Saudi businessman was laughed at by flight attendants when he wrote "death to Jesus" on the armrest of his Virgin Airways business class seat because he was angry with the service.

Mohammed, 36, also scrawled an anti-christianity message on a napkin, attacking nuns wearing headscarves, and dropped it between two passengers as the plane landed in Heathrow.

Graffiti is vandalism is a crime.
That's one of his charges. Nothing to do with the message.
Then there's the note, which was religiously harassing.

To those posters who think it's a storm in a teacup, what did you say in the news story of the Chinese tourist who scribbled graffiti on a buddha statue in Thailand or the story about the Thai tourist who graffitied on The Great Wall in China?
I bet there were derogatory remarks.

^ The Saudi businessman would have face criminal damage charges for the graffiti and whatever charges for the religious harrasment.
What happens when Jewish graves are vandalised? Uproar!! Criminal damage plus religiously motivated offense.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

death to Jesus

It is a good exercise to go through when trying to measure the right of muslims to be indignant about supposed 'anti-muslim' incidents that happen in the west.

Just rescript the scenario with christianity/jesus replaced as the target of the attack and imagine how strongly the offender would be dealt with before getting all antzy and defensive about victims of so-called 'islamophobia'