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    Kool-Aid ... please explain?

    Kool-Aid

    It's a euphemism from North America, used widely, but I never had it explained to me.

    I get a feeling that it means along the lines of 'dumbing it down' or a sedative for the masses.'

    But I rather know then guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Kool-Aid

    It's a euphemism from North America, used widely, but I never had it explained to me.

    I get a feeling that it means along the lines of 'dumbing it down' or a sedative for the masses.'

    But I rather know then guess.


    Anyone?
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    It comes from the Jonestown mass suicide of 1979. In modern parlance to "drink the kool-aid" means you've been brainwashed or believe something fundamentally stupid.



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid

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    1979? maybe older

    The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is a nonfiction book by Tom Wolfe that was published in 1968


    https://tpbclean.pro/torrent/9200380...11_books_(epub)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    1979? maybe older

    The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is a nonfiction book by Tom Wolfe that was published in 1968


    https://tpbclean.pro/torrent/9200380...11_books_(epub)
    No. Nothing to do with the Acid Tests. Totally different. In fact almost entirely opposite. Drink the Kool-Aid comes from Jim Jones. Nowhere else. There's no question about it. Go read the history and look for the vids, listen to what he says over and over again as he gets the parents to murder their kids.
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    Lots of kool aid in Thailand, cheers for the history lesson.

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    isn't it originally just a powdered drink in a sachet - maybe some kind of sherbet / kaylie ?

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    ^yes, I drank it as a kid. It's sugary sweet, the crappy taste that kids love. Now as an adult, I wonder why I ever liked it. Lol. I liked the strawberry & grape flavors.

    It can also be used to color hair, as a cheap, temporary option. The hair color lasts ~3 wks. I've never tried it, but there are several youtube vids abt it - coloring hair with Kool Aid. A US-based friend told me abt it - it's used by mostly teens in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    isn't it originally just a powdered drink in a sachet - maybe some kind of sherbet / kaylie ?
    yes - did you read about how the mass suicide was effected ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post

    It can also be used to color hair, as a cheap, temporary option. The hair color lasts ~3 wks. I've never tried it, but there are several youtube vids abt it - coloring hair with Kool Aid. A US-based friend told me abt it - it's used by mostly teens in the US.
    And the odd rock star.



    Hard to believe people weren't aware of Jonestown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    Hard to believe people weren't aware of Jonestown.
    It's Blue FFS. It isn't much of a stretch. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    isn't it originally just a powdered drink in a sachet - maybe some kind of sherbet / kaylie ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    isn't it originally just a powdered drink in a sachet - maybe some kind of sherbet / kaylie ?
    yes - did you read about how the mass suicide was effected ?
    No i/ve been busy for the last 5 hours solid
    trying to get an android moto g4 phones internal storage set SD card to show up on windows via usb.
    Only the phones own memory would show.
    I tried everything every fucker on the internet suggested for the last 5 years /
    even updated to version 7 nougat
    Got it to show in the end
    I had to migrate data from the phones memory to the sd card to wake the slob up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    Hard to believe people weren't aware of Jonestown.
    It's Blue FFS. It isn't much of a stretch. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
    never heard of it/ didn't click the link so still blissfully ignorant

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    Used to put it in flour to mark Hash trails in US/Canada. It colours the flour and the colour becomes brighter if moisture is present.

    The powder is or was scarce as they moved to shipping water all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    isn't it originally just a powdered drink in a sachet - maybe some kind of sherbet / kaylie ?
    It is, but has a different effect when you put cyanide in it.

    However, Jones himself died of lead poisoning. He put a bullet in his head

    They murdered a US Congressman as well, the last time one has been assassinated in office.

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    Dr Bob nailed it, the weird fuk.

    Other than that it's still popular in the south along with sweet tea.

    In Texas when I was a kid, everyone lived on acreage & had well water. Some of the wells had a high sulfur content and made the water smell like rotten eggs. It was otherwise drinkable, just stank like hell.

    Super country folk and the poorer families would constantly have kool aid in the fridge, using it to mask the stank of the water when they drank it.

    Better off families would drill new wells or filter & soften the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    It comes from the Jonestown mass suicide of 1979. In modern parlance to "drink the kool-aid" means you've been brainwashed
    DrB0b's right.

    point of fact, though, is that they didn't actually drink "kool aid" in their mass suicide....it was "flavor aid".

    great interview on a recently published book on jones and his followers...

    Nearly 40 Years Later, Jonestown Offers A Lesson In Demagoguery : NPR

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    It comes from the Jonestown mass suicide of 1979. In modern parlance to "drink the kool-aid" means you've been brainwashed
    DrB0b's right.

    point of fact, though, is that they didn't actually drink "kool aid" in their mass suicide....it was "flavor aid".
    Point of fact... they did.

    In the wake of the tragedy at Jonestown, the phrase "drink the Kool-Aid" became a popular term for blind obedience, as the Temple members had apparently accepted cups of fruity poison willingly. What's strange is that, according to various accounts, the primary beverage used at Jonestown was actually Flavor Aid (sometimes styled "Flav-R-Aid") -- although there is photographic evidence that packets of both Kool-Aid and Flavor Aid were present at the scene.
    Just a catchier name I guess.

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    hmmmm.

    the journalist who wrote the book i linked to above stated specifically that it was flavor aid and not kool aid.

    either way, they're dead....and kids in america are (regrettably) still drinking kool aid/flavor aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    hmmmm.

    the journalist who wrote the book i linked to above stated specifically that it was flavor aid and not kool aid.

    either way, they're dead....and kids in america are (regrettably) still drinking kool aid/flavor aid.
    Just shoddy journalism is all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Dr Bob nailed it, the weird fuk.

    Other than that it's still popular in the south along with sweet tea.

    In Texas when I was a kid, everyone lived on acreage & had well water. Some of the wells had a high sulfur content and made the water smell like rotten eggs. It was otherwise drinkable, just stank like hell.

    Super country folk and the poorer families would constantly have kool aid in the fridge, using it to mask the stank of the water when they drank it.

    Better off families would drill new wells or filter & soften the water.
    Only ever drank it in Vietnam. Hot water, in plastic canteens, treated to kill all the crap in it tasted like shit. KoolAid didn't make it good, but you could get it down. A staple in care packages to the troops back in the day.

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    As yet, the bigger and more important picture is still being missed.
    [shouldn't surprise]

    ....the metaphoric flavoured beverages of choice continue to be imbibed. Can't get around it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Dr Bob nailed it, the weird fuk.

    Other than that it's still popular in the south along with sweet tea.

    In Texas when I was a kid, everyone lived on acreage & had well water. Some of the wells had a high sulfur content and made the water smell like rotten eggs. It was otherwise drinkable, just stank like hell.

    Super country folk and the poorer families would constantly have kool aid in the fridge, using it to mask the stank of the water when they drank it.

    Better off families would drill new wells or filter & soften the water.
    Only ever drank it in Vietnam. Hot water, in plastic canteens, treated to kill all the crap in it tasted like shit. KoolAid didn't make it good, but you could get it down. A staple in care packages to the troops back in the day.
    You were sipping kool-aid at your REMF desk job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    As yet, the bigger and more important picture is still being missed.
    [shouldn't surprise]

    ....the metaphoric flavoured beverages of choice continue to be imbibed. Can't get around it.


    It ain't rebellin', if your buyin' what their sellin'

    Is jeff one of those jinglies with a British passport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Kool-Aid

    It's a euphemism from North America, used widely, but I never had it explained to me.

    I get a feeling that it means along the lines of 'dumbing it down' or a sedative for the masses.'

    But I rather know then guess.


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    It comes from the Jonestown mass suicide of 1979. In modern parlance to "drink the kool-aid" means you've been brainwashed or believe something fundamentally stupid.
    Thanks for the replies.

    Bob, most agree that you nailed it.

    I was still in school in '79.
    I do remember the incident, but it's more a ghost of a recollection and no analysis of the deeper causes, and certainly not the cause of death.

    Because the event was pivotal, exterminated innocent lives (kids) and used something so seemingly innocuous (Kool-Aid) as the carrier of the poison, I can see how it has become part of the Lexicon.



    Maybe the song by REM, Orange Crush was written about the event JonesTown.

    Some reckon that Orange Crush refers to Agent Orange, some say it's slang for abusing over-the-counter cough and cold medicines that contain dextromethorphan.


    Anyway, thanks for the explanation Bob ... green owed.
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