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Old 21-03-2017, 02:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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School thinks my Buddhist child is a Nazi

My 10 year old son came home from school today. We're in England. In today's class they were asked to draw a "what I did this weekend" picture. What we did this weekend was go to a Buddhist temple in London. He drew a picture of this. On either side of the Buddha statue in his picture he also drew the Swastikas the temple had on panels beside the statue. The headmistress was informed and panic ensued. He was given detention, asked "was everything alright at home?" and made to write an essay about why the Swastika was evil.

My reaction? I have yet to decide if I will just go ballistic at the idiot teacher who did this or make an enormous fuss and take it all the way to the local education authority. Actually I have decided, all the way and enormous fuss it is. Morons!
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The system like you to follow the proceedure, head teacher, govenors, LEA. I think once you've educated the Head about her and the teachers ignorance an apology will forthcoming, if shes so arrogant that she can't accept their mistake put it to the govenors, I think it unlikely it'll get to the LEA.
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The system like you to follow the proceedure, head teacher, govenors, LEA. I think once you've educated the Head about her and the teachers ignorance an apology will forthcoming, if shes so arrogant that she can't accept their mistake put it to the govenors, I think it unlikely it'll get to the LEA.
Right now I'm thinking I'll bring a couple of monks along to have a chat with the staff.
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Stupid, ignorant teacher. Go show her the error of her ways. Hope the incident didn't scar your boy.
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Bob, as they say, the son is taught his father's ways.
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My reaction? I have yet to decide if I will just go ballistic at the idiot teacher who did this or make an enormous fuss and take it all the way to the local education authority. Actually I have decided, all the way and enormous fuss it is. Morons!
quite right too.

i'm surprised your home hasnt been raided yet by the hate crimes squad, social services, immigration, and of course the community imam with his bearded henchmen and your abused children being whisked away and sold into adoption.
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Stupid, ignorant teacher. Go show her the error of her ways. Hope the incident didn't scar your boy.
It hasn't yet. He is upset though, as is his mum. This is the first time such a thing has happened, I will make damn sure it is the last!
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Overpaid baby sitters some of them
I've got to be honest I feel sorry for the teacher after you have finished with him/ her
But please answer my ignorance is there a symbol similar to a swastika on a temple
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But please answer my ignorance is there a symbol similar to a swastika on a temple
The swastika is a fundamental Buddhist and Hindu symbol, for a couple of thousand years before the nazis got hold of it. No problem that you don't know that, why should you? But considering the emphasis we now put on mollycoddling religious types teachers should be aware of it. At the very least they should contact parents before deciding that a young child is a member of the Hitler youth.
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DrBob is a Nazi, I'd never have guessed, always comes across as a sweet caring type of bloke.....
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Decades of lefty influence in teaching.

I was a school governor for a few years, and it's quite amazing the dribble dross that falls out of headteachers' mouths, all the corporate business-speak.

Teachers are dummed down since New Labour... they are too scared and jumpy, they won't deviate from syllabus (i.e. be creative); nor will they put up a fight for common sense with regards to "elfy eton", "plitickle cracknus" "denigrating cybersity", and the latest ones about "terrah" and "extremizum"... is it any wonder it's so hard to recruit and retain decent people? They are now throwing 25k tax free at grads with Desmonds in anything to fill the ranks... the turnover is epic.

http://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U?t=2m11s

...anyway, back to your point... the headteacher is terrified of being hauled over the coals for missing some sign of a problem, so the solution comes by writing a polite but firm letter to them, inviting them to a temple for education about Buddhism and svastika, and remind them of their duties to increase cultural awareness in the school, and advise them that you may seek advice on this from the LEA (nice if you can get a name).

Funny if it was name like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_Mukherjee

Don't go too hard... remember you are dealing with people who don't understand, and stupid people are always more dangerous than intelligent people, because they can't be reasoned with.

As an aside, you can see this symbol has been popular in Yorkshire for millennia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_Stone

Other places too:
The Indian High Commission (Embassy) in London, for example:


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...anyway, back to your point... the headteacher is terrified of being hauled over the coals for missing some sign of a problem, so the solution comes by writing a polite but firm letter to them, inviting them to a temple for education about Buddhism and svastika, and remind them of their duties to increase cultural awareness in the school, and advise them that you may seek advice on this from the LEA (nice if you can get a name).

Funny if it was name like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_Mukherjee

Don't go too hard... remember you are dealing with people who don't understand, and stupid people are always more dangerous than intelligent people, because they can't be reasoned with.
Good advice, thanks. I admit I was going to go in all guns blazing but what you say makes very good sense.
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The local primary school teacher recently started trying to "create a situation" with me over me teaching my kids to code in python, because I do push them a bit... because I have higher standards than the UK school system... but kids will say everything in their head when they're upset (about something else maybe), and care bears can leap on things and take them out of context and twist words... you need to play a straight bat, give no info more than the minimum, they'll provoke you and use it against you, if they can, it's part of their "training". You are in control of yourself, until you hand control over to them... which I would never do. Save yourself stress and play the culture card - if your kids are "mixed race" and "learning about their Asian culture"... make it hard for them to twist it against you, and insinuate something that isn't true... getting angry plays into their hands.
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Fuck this nice approach, Bob.

Burn the place down.

Ignorant Farang Coonts.
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...anyway, back to your point... the headteacher is terrified of being hauled over the coals for missing some sign of a problem, so the solution comes by writing a polite but firm letter to them, inviting them to a temple for education about Buddhism and svastika, and remind them of their duties to increase cultural awareness in the school, and advise them that you may seek advice on this from the LEA (nice if you can get a name).

Funny if it was name like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_Mukherjee

Don't go too hard... remember you are dealing with people who don't understand, and stupid people are always more dangerous than intelligent people, because they can't be reasoned with.
Good advice, thanks. I admit I was going to go in all guns blazing but what you say makes very good sense.
The captain is right. First step is always firm, reasoned complaint in writing to the supervisor of the employee concerned.
I would also ask how they intend to make up for the detention and essay;Your son will never get that time back and may even harbour guilt and uncertainty, which he shouldn't. An apology direct from the teacher to him, in front of the class where he was humiliated should suffice, and the teacher spending some time with the class teaching them her new-found knowledge.
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...anyway, back to your point... the headteacher is terrified of being hauled over the coals for missing some sign of a problem, so the solution comes by writing a polite but firm letter to them, inviting them to a temple for education about Buddhism and svastika, and remind them of their duties to increase cultural awareness in the school, and advise them that you may seek advice on this from the LEA (nice if you can get a name).

Funny if it was name like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_Mukherjee

Don't go too hard... remember you are dealing with people who don't understand, and stupid people are always more dangerous than intelligent people, because they can't be reasoned with.
Good advice, thanks. I admit I was going to go in all guns blazing but what you say makes very good sense.
The captain is right. First step is always firm, reasoned complaint in writing to the supervisor of the employee concerned.
I would also ask how they intend to make up for the detention and essay;Your son will never get that time back and may even harbour guilt and uncertainty, which he shouldn't. An apology direct from the teacher to him, in front of the class where he was humiliated should suffice, and the teacher spending some time with the class teaching them her new-found knowledge.
Nice intent, but this scene would never come about.
The establishment's political integrity is a stake.
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Making a huge fuss about nothing.

Part of the problem, not the solution
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Nice intent, but this scene would never come about.
The establishment's political integrity is a stake.
I think you're far too cynical on this matter.
I have served on two school boards in NZ and feel strongly that the teacher will be educated by the Head or the board, she did nothing wrong but was just plain ignorant, and a pupil suffered because of it.
As for the apology, I expect the Head to negotiate that down to a private but sincere apology.
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Stupid, ignorant teacher. Go show her the error of her ways. Hope the incident didn't scar your boy.
It hasn't yet. He is upset though, as is his mum. This is the first time such a thing has happened, I will make damn sure it is the last!
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...anyway, back to your point... the headteacher is terrified of being hauled over the coals for missing some sign of a problem, so the solution comes by writing a polite but firm letter to them, inviting them to a temple for education about Buddhism and svastika, and remind them of their duties to increase cultural awareness in the school, and advise them that you may seek advice on this from the LEA (nice if you can get a name).

Funny if it was name like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_Mukherjee

Don't go too hard... remember you are dealing with people who don't understand, and stupid people are always more dangerous than intelligent people, because they can't be reasoned with.
Good advice, thanks. I admit I was going to go in all guns blazing but what you say makes very good sense.
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Fuck this nice approach, Bob.

Burn the place down.

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My 10 year old son came home from school today. We're in England. In today's class they were asked to draw a "what I did this weekend" picture. What we did this weekend was go to a Buddhist temple in London. He drew a picture of this. On either side of the Buddha statue in his picture he also drew the Swastikas the temple had on panels beside the statue. The headmistress was informed and panic ensued. He was given detention, asked "was everything alright at home?" and made to write an essay about why the Swastika was evil.

My reaction? I have yet to decide if I will just go ballistic at the idiot teacher who did this or make an enormous fuss and take it all the way to the local education authority. Actually I have decided, all the way and enormous fuss it is. Morons!
It's sad that people who are teachers are so ignorant and downright stupid.
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