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    Beggars what do you think?

    Genuine , organised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Genuine , organised?

    Definitely organised in Pattaya and the women beggars with children will attempt to pickpocket. The genuine ones are clearly down and out, druggies and alcoholics, etc.

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    or fluffing restaurants for free food,

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    ^Who, exactly?

    Do have a detailed description of the guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Genuine , organised?
    Either, of course. One doesn't negate the other. There have always been formalised beggars guilds in the Far East, no reason to think they've gone away. There have always been gangmasters who coerce others to beg for them. There have always been genuine down and outs. Most beggars I've spoken to appear genuine, refugees, runaways, sick or old and alone. In my experience most beggars are genuine while a few are either career beggars or coerced. BTW, attempting to pickpocket doesn't mean they're not also genuine beggars.
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    i think you have to buy the paper to discover

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Most beggars I've spoken to appear genuine, refugees, runaways, sick or old and alone. In my experience most beggars are genuine
    Gypsies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Most beggars I've spoken to appear genuine, refugees, runaways, sick or old and alone. In my experience most beggars are genuine
    Gypsies.
    Eh? Not many gypsies in SE Asia.

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    In Asia, highly organized criminal gangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    organised?
    Obviously really. How do you think these parasites get to their begging spots?
    Deliberately maiming young children for the purpose of making them join begging gangs has been happening for years.

    Child mutilated for refusing to beg - CNN Video

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    ^^ yup. I dont give them the time of any anymore.

    I used to be a sucker for giving to those who had babies in their arms. Most are Cambodian gangs ive heard.

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    They're already showing up around here in time for Christmas. Mostly from Mindanao. Packs of very aggressive kids. My twins sometimes take a jeepney home after school, and a couple of them tried to snatch my daughter's backpack. Doubt they'll try that again......

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    Organized.

    On the odd occasion there is a young child I will typically go into the 7-11 and buy a carton of milk and some sort of bread bun, and open them as I give them to them.

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    ^^^ Ditto.

    Especially in Phnom Penh where women hire their opiated babies out to other female beggars. The kid is quiet, dopey looking, never a complaint or interest in what's going on around, just lollygagged in a sling around the supposed mother's shoulders, who's often trying to sell note books, purses or trinkets at the same time.

    Or watch the numbers of local cripples increase at the start of the high season in Kampot.

    There's a few who also turn up in Chiangmai during the high season too, usually old women and cripples.

    I'll occasionally give to obvious cripples or old people, but chubby faced beggars, alcoholics, druggies and fake monks can get lost.

    Besides, Buddhist monks feed the beggars daily and give them clothes and shelter, as do other religious charities.

    There was a team of beggars transported every morning into Darjeeling N.India.
    The gang master would drop off a daily feed to them at noon, then pick them all up in a van and take them 'home' for the night, repeating the routine daily.
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    Genuine or organised - leave them the fuck alone.

    Much more pressing concerns in our already over stimulated lives.

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    Most beggars in PI make more money than a regular office worker in Manila. They are organized gang members that exploit the kind side of people.

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    ^ Knowing all these, I still give them money or food when I see them. I guess, my heart isn't hard enough to just completely pretend that they are not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat View Post
    ^Who, exactly?

    Do have a detailed description of the guy?
    What's the problem Pat? Is he on your patch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    Do have a detailed description of the guy?
    Better still.



    Go get him Pat.

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    ^ That IS pat

    His cousin gave him those lumps with a retaliatory double eggplant up the jacksy

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    Aw fwk!

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    Plenty of fake beggars around, called scammers.


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    mostly scammers and alcoholics / drug addicts around the tourist areas, but the ones in thai markets and places that dont see many foreign or local tourists often seem to be genuine unfortunates. old, disabled and frail and deserving of help.

    dont know why they dont go to temples for food and accommodation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    Do have a detailed description of the guy?
    Better still.



    Go get him Pat.
    That is Mr Egg and he lived in Pattaya about fifteen years ago. We were on nodding terms and I gave him money. He was different to the other beggars as all should realise immediately.

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    Some are genuine and some are from organized gangs...

    I don't despise them, I feel sorry for them. It's good to give them money - if it feels right... never feel obligated, just do it because you want to.

    It could easily be you... lose your job, wife, bankruptcy, interest rates skyrocket, can't pay your mortgage, mental breakdown... on the street giving
    blowjobs for change...

    A good deed will come back to you 10 fold -give a little ya cheap bastards! (or end up under a bridge sucking )



    Saaa duuu! Amen!..
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