Was Derek Hatton a Trotsky Entryist?

**Bettyboo** · 15-08-2016, 03:01 PM

The BBC seems to be implying so...

Militant Tendency
But he was not the first revolutionary leader to advocate the tactic - the Labour Party had been expelling hard-left entryists since the 1920s.
British communists, inspired by the Russian Revolution, had little time for the Labour Party's belief in democratic socialism, believing revolution, and the abolition of Parliament, was the only way to free the working classes.
Trotskyist entryism did not begin to bear any real fruit until the 1970s, with the rise of the Militant Tendency.
Militant drew much of its support from young people hungry for social change and disillusioned with what they saw as Labour's watered-down version of socialism - they believed capitalism was beyond reform and the only answer was to nationalise private industry without compensation.

Mr Corbyn was never a member of Militant, although he fought against their expulsion in the 1980s.
And Momentum - the grassroots organisation set up to support Mr Corbyn - is clearly a very different beast, operating as it does in an open fashion.
Mr Watson has said he does not believe that the "vast majority" of Labour members that have joined the party are "all Trots and Bolsheviks".
But like many Labour MPs, he sees signs of entryist tactics at work, even though it is sometimes very difficult to get a handle on the allegiances and motivations of the British hard left.
What is a Trotskyist? - BBC News

The BBC really is utter tripe nowadays...

**harrybarracuda** · 15-08-2016, 03:41 PM

Actually he was a corrupt politician and a champagne socialist, like most Labour party nobs.

**Bettyboo** · 15-08-2016, 03:53 PM

He was many things 'Arry, but he was not a Trotskyite.

(You're not upset with the Scousers because of their raid down The Library yesterday are youse?

)

**harrybarracuda** · 15-08-2016, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

He was many things 'Arry, but he was not a Trotskyite.

I never said he was, you posted the shit.

**Bettyboo** · 15-08-2016, 04:38 PM

^ the BBC said he was, and a lot of people do say so. He says he never was, he was just a kid who didn't particularly have an ideology. I doubt he has ever read a book written by Trotsky or a Trotskyite.

The point was, the crap BBC journalism.

&, it's fun to stick Derek into any thread as he's a bit of a character...

**billy the kid** · 15-08-2016, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

the crap BBC journalism.

never sure whether to believe what they say anymore and what they don't report.

Sputnik are opening up in Scotland to give people the real news in UK.

Which is good news or bad.

Been watching the mighty Brits in the Olympics and when the News comes on
it's all about the Olympics.
Like there is no other News.

**TheDukeofNewcastle** · 15-08-2016, 05:11 PM

A corrupt, self serving egotist and shit stirrer. He wanted his 15 minutes of fame over and over again. If he was around now, his life would depend on the selfie stick.

**thaimeme** · 15-08-2016, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Actually he was a corrupt politician and a champagne socialist, like most Labour party nobs.

...or, to be fair, like most politicians - generally speaking.

**harrybarracuda** · 15-08-2016, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Actually he was a corrupt politician and a champagne socialist, like most Labour party nobs.

...or, to be fair, like most politicians - generally speaking.

Fuck off jeff.

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