Thread: 4 1/2 year old just ate a 500mg paracetamol tablet. Problem?

Originally Posted by Cujo

I'm starting to understand all the reds.

Yes, the work of some useless cunts for whom sending forum reds is their biggest daily achievement and their main way of feeling better about their lot in life.

Originally Posted by Henrie

Thailand expat forum housing lots of troubled individuals

Welcome. Have a seat. Now, what brings you to a forum full of troubled folks.

There are lots of good members here too from what I've seen. My aim is to interact with them whilst avoiding the crap. Easier said than done it seems. I should have stayed away from this thread I know but what I read made me see red.

Double post

Henrie, simple really. Click on any member's name that is annoying to you and go to their personal profile. There will be a sentence like" Place Henrie(just using your name as an example) on your ignore list." Click on that sentence and job done. Whenever that member posts something, you will not see it and it will say. "Henrie is on your ignore list."

Like I said, simple.

Remove user from ignore list
kingwilly
This message is hidden because kingwilly is on your ignore list.

Good call!

I've no problem. You have.

You keep clinging to this eight figure like its important.

Firstly, different patients react in different ways.

Secondly, tablets made in China are likely to contain widely varying dosages and perhaps their strength was 2-3 or more times than it stated on the packet.

Thirdly, you don't appear to know how many you took at all. Two or four?

Originally Posted by Cujo

I had a killer toothache a couple of months ago and I took a couple then forgot about them.

Cujo, maybe you are a bad parent after all for leaving the medication within your daughter's reach.

Originally Posted by Henrie

I've no problem. You have.

You keep clinging to this eight figure like its important.

Firstly, different patients react in different ways.

Secondly, tablets made in China are likely to contain widely varying dosages and perhaps their strength was 2-3 or more times than it stated on the packet.

Thirdly, you don't appear to know how many you took at all. Two or four?

Originally Posted by Cujo

I had a killer toothache a couple of months ago and I took a couple then forgot about them.

Whether I took two or four is irrelevant.
The MOST she could have taken, even if it was a new pack, would have been been 5. That would be 2500mg
At 200mg/Kg she would need 4000mg to be in any danger.
The tablets came from Australia by the way.

This may help you Cujo.

Medscape: Medscape Access

Try 90mg per kilo in a 24 hour period, and only under medical supervision, and you'll be closer.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

This may help you Cujo.

Medscape: Medscape Access

Yes thanks rick. That confirms what I've been saying.
Thanks for your help.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Cujo, maybe you are a bad parent after all for leaving the medication within your daughter's reach.

Yes, absolutely. Bad dad.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Cujo, maybe you are a bad parent after all for leaving the medication within your daughter's reach.

Yes, absolutely. Bad dad.

To be fair, Cujo has taken this one on board, and sure he will learn from it. More banging on on this one really serves no other purpose that I can see.

Originally Posted by Henrie

Try 90mg per kilo in a 24 hour period, and only under medical supervision, and you'll be closer.

Not what the Internet says.

Clinical Practice Guidelines : Paracetamol Poisoning

Maybe you know better than the Melbourne Royal Childrens Hospital.

Maybe not.

I'm going with not.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

This may help you Cujo.

Medscape: Medscape Access

Yes thanks rick. That confirms what I've been saying.
Thanks for your help.

No it doesn't, you silly clot.

Minimum toxic doses of acetaminophen for a single ingestion, posing significant risk of severe hepatotoxicity, are as follows:

Adults: 7.5-10 g
Children: 150 mg/kg; 200 mg/kg in healthy children aged 1-6 years

Read carefully and firstly realise that this is a level causing significant risk and severe damage, and secondly it is over a 24 hour period of ingestion.

The level for potential kidney damage is 90 mg per kilo over 24 hours or 25 mg per kilo (500 mg in a 20 kilo child) in a single dosage.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Henrie

Try 90mg per kilo in a 24 hour period, and only under medical supervision, and you'll be closer.

Not what the Internet says.

Clinical Practice Guidelines : Paracetamol Poisoning

Maybe you know better than the Melbourne Royal Childrens Hospital.

Maybe not.

I'm going with not.

You need Australian links? Fine

Paracetamol for children - myDr.com.au


http://m.australianprescriber.com/magazine/23/3/60/1

If either of you really want to dig deep into children tylenol overdoses, try this link.

Management of acetaminophen (paracetamol) poisoning in children and adolescents

This is interesting.
Paracetamol poisoning in children and hepatotoxicity.

It all means the same thing.
My little girl will be fine.

How is a 25 year old research paper interesting?

I love your blind faith! You've gone from foolish to toolish.

Oh my gosh....

An injection of common sense from the Australian government to one of its clueless citizens living in China.

https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/.../drug-overdose

Paracetamol is a common pain reliever and fever reducer that is usually bought over the counter without a prescription. It is one of the most common medicines taken by young children in an accidental overdose.

There is only a small difference between the maximum daily dose of paracetamol and an overdose, which can cause liver damage. Large amounts of paracetamol are very dangerous, but the effects often don’t show until about two to three days after taking the tablets. However, treatment must be started early to be effective, before the effects begin.

Always seek treatment for paracetamol overdose immediately, even if the person seems quite well.

Choosing to live in a country where you are scared of the doctors is a lame excuse not to.

Everything seems to indicate that 500 mg (at the most 1500) in a 20kg child is not considered an overdose.
Even at 90mg per kg she is still below the 1800 total limit.

90mg per kilo over 24 hours is 1800 mg over 24 hours. Did you child consume the 500mg (or more) over a gentle 24 hours or in the space of a single minute?

Jesus this guy is a tool.