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    LSD, Federal Conspiracy Charge

    About 20 years ago in the US, I first heard about this first hand from someone who's brother had received a huge sentence for possessing a relatively small amount of trips.
    He was charged with
    "Conspiracy to undermine the US government."

    I had forgotten about it until the other day when I read an article all about minor LSD dealers getting sentences of 30 to life.

    Wow.

    Now everyone knows the CIA tested LSD on thousands of people for use as a truth serum.

    Did they find out that it makes people who've taken it see through their bullshit with ease and therefore elevate the crime of having a few hits of acid up to such a heinous level?

    Can anyone explain the law and or reasoning?

    BobR - you're up

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    You're right LSD and similar trips to the outer world makes you a bad disobedient consumer robot.
    LSD is very dangerous. It could cause you to visit Peru and participate in a Shaman ritual using Ayahuasca which is much more potent than even the pure liquid LSD.

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    This gentlemen never died.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    You're right LSD and similar trips to the outer world makes you a bad disobedient consumer robot.
    LSD is very dangerous. It could cause you to visit Peru and participate in a Shaman ritual using Ayahuasca which is much more potent than even the pure liquid LSD.
    As psychedelics differ in strength, as do individual reaction and situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post

    As psychedelics differ in strength, as do individual reaction and situations.

    I took Mushrooms once and I'm OK

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    Though each year thousands are killed by govt practices of letting pharma companies sell products that can be lethal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Though each year thousands are killed by govt practices of letting pharma companies sell products that can be lethal.
    Not to mention states like ridiculous Oklahoma which hand out lifetime jailhouse time for cannabis.

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    wasn't it the govt and Pharma companies that banned the cannabis hospitals/Clinics, that were providing treatments in the USA.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    This gentlemen never died.....


    The most dangerous man in America; according to Richard M. Nixon.

    A very big threat indeed as he encouraged thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Though each year thousands are killed by govt practices of letting pharma companies sell products that can be lethal.
    Yeah - goes without saying.
    The promoted establishment attention prefers to lead us down a prim-rose lane.

    It's up to the individual and collective to wake the fuck up.
    Until then, the populations will continue their induced slumber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    wasn't it the govt and Pharma companies that banned the cannabis hospitals/Clinics, that were providing treatments in the USA.?
    No. Google: Harry J. Anslinger, William Randolph Hearst.

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    oh right i was under the impression the rockfeller foundation found them a real threat to there pharma companies,will check the names out thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    oh right i was under the impression the rockfeller foundation found them a real threat to there pharma companies,will check the names out thanks.
    There was talk of DuPont being involved. But never really established.

    But DuPont certainly benifited nicely with the outlawing of hemp/cannabis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    You're right LSD and similar trips to the outer world makes you a bad disobedient consumer robot.
    LSD is very dangerous. It could cause you to visit Peru and participate in a Shaman ritual using Ayahuasca which is much more potent than even the pure liquid LSD.
    I went to Peru to be buggered, all I got was a Guy from Bornemouth TRFLista teaching the semi-colon

    Aya ask you? More like His-SO asshole
    Professors MEGG of Ronaldmacdonald Academy you'll never look back.

    Thatchu Pichu knock three times and ask for Hi-So
    I used to have a job at a calendar factory.
    I got the sack because
    I took a couple of days off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    You're right LSD and similar trips to the outer world makes you a bad disobedient consumer robot.
    LSD is very dangerous. It could cause you to visit Peru and participate in a Shaman ritual using Ayahuasca which is much more potent than even the pure liquid LSD.
    I went to Peru to be buggered, all I got was a Guy from Bornemouth TRFLista teaching the semi-colon

    Aya ask you? More like His-SO asshole
    Professors MEGG of Ronaldmacdonald Academy you'll never look back.

    Thatchu Pichu knock three times and ask for Hi-So
    Been to Peru three wonder times.

    Never been to Machu Pichu. Other more interesting archeological sites not on the tourist high way of more interest. Google Kuelap if it interests ya.

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    'Heard first hand from someone's brother'.

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    Haven't you got three or four lady boys cocks to juggle Luisa?

    "He has a woman's hands"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Ayahuasca which is much more potent than even the pure liquid LSD.
    Nonsense. It's completely different.

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    In what way?

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    google it.
    or take it.


    Ayahuasca is often very diluted and mixed with substitutes as is LSD but pure it's a very different experience.

    Pure Lysergic Acid dyethlymide 25 is it's own thing and not really comparable to pure Ayahuasca.

    One should take into consideration the environment.

    That is the deciding factor for the use of both.
    Last edited by ChiangMai noon; 21-12-2015 at 07:46 AM.

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    Have you taken both of them?

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    Cvnts full of shit isn't he earl?

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    I had loads if trips when I was young and got a smoothie in no Chang about 5 years had a wonderful time
    It can be scary if you have too much,it's great if you're already drunk you don't get paranoid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper View Post
    Cvnts full of shit isn't he earl?
    hey don't ya be arguing with my buddy CMN he be a certified expert.


    To be fair though Ayahuasca is very different from pure lsd just because I have more experience with the Ayahuasca. I've only had the real pure liquid LSD once recently at a party fueled with alcohol.
    The Ayahuasca is a ritual. It is brewed and prepared from different plants. The active ingredient DMT exists thoughout the environment. DMT is in our pineal gland.

    The Ayahuasca ceremony you prepare for it by fasting and cleaning up your body. I've been though over dozen ceremonies and each is different. And have seen how it affects others differently also, taking the very same brew.
    I've been laid out on the floor traveling warp speed across the universe and a fellow next to me might not have gotten off at all. So it is really not the same for everyone and each ceremony different from the other. Sorta fascinating really.
    Taking the pure LSD in a more ceremonial setting would be interesting.

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