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    Richard Dawkins VS Islam


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    When it comes to religion its hard not to agree with RD

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    Like Russell, Dawkins always loses these arguments, as his socalled "science" is a belief system too (although a slightly less ridiculous one with more relevance to the way we live nowadays).

    The interviewer makes more good points than Dawkins does, imho.

    Dawkins reminds me of Chomski in the way he frames an argument in a small space he feels comfortable in then when others make good points he just refuses to discuss the issue (the same claim he makes against people with 'faith'...).

    Now, don't misunderstand me, religion is ridiculous lies for the sake of money and power, but I'm never impressed with the arrogant way Dawkins goes about these discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Like Russell, Dawkins always loses these arguments, as his socalled "science" is a belief system too (although a slightly less ridiculous one with more relevance to the way we live nowadays).

    The interviewer makes more good points than Dawkins does, imho.

    Dawkins reminds me of Chomski in the way he frames an argument in a small space he feels comfortable in then when others make good points he just refuses to discuss the issue (the same claim he makes against people with 'faith'...).

    Now, don't misunderstand me, religion is ridiculous lies for the sake of money and power, but I'm never impressed with the arrogant way Dawkins goes about these discussions.
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    Of course if post modern discourse and advanced hermeneutics shake your tree Chomsky is yer man,yer chumsky Wubbadubba Can ewe feel the rustle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Like Russell, Dawkins always loses these arguments, as his socalled "science" is a belief system too (although a slightly less ridiculous one with more relevance to the way we live nowadays).

    The interviewer makes more good points than Dawkins does, imho.

    Dawkins reminds me of Chomski in the way he frames an argument in a small space he feels comfortable in then when others make good points he just refuses to discuss the issue (the same claim he makes against people with 'faith'...).

    Now, don't misunderstand me, religion is ridiculous lies for the sake of money and power, but I'm never impressed with the arrogant way Dawkins goes about these discussions.
    Most are taken by the counter-dogma practice as long as such creates a means to their ends accordingly. In this case, we'll find the usual Eurocentric illusion of exceptionalism and providence from the likes of Mr. Dawkins [which is his instinctive modus operandi] without real alternative filters weighing all sides of any spectrum....

    Sciences are an invented human function regarding things that just are, and certainly don't adapt to the invented political/social bias' put upon.

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    Dawkins is no doubt a clever fella.
    But he's also a bitter fvck and clueless in many ways.
    The interviewer makes him look stupid.
    Good thing is that it's a rational debate that breeds understanding.

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    "Agnosticism is the only rational choice"
    Spot on.

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    The positive effects of religion are relevant.
    Basic right and wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper View Post
    Dawkins is no doubt a clever fella.
    But he's also a bitter fvck and clueless in many ways.
    The interviewer makes him look stupid.
    Good thing is that it's a rational debate that breeds understanding.
    Yep...
    Yet, the establishment realm will always find it worthy to promote the likes of Dawkins to perpetuate the message.

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    if you are not bringing maths and logic to the argument you are superfluous to requirements - and keep to the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    They muslim guy claims muslims don't believe the Earth was created in 7 days, and then a large snapshot of the passage of the Quran saying exactly so.

    Then this guy believe mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse.


    People like this are dangerous.

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    Thanks for posting this. The question needs to be asked why an apparently sane man (the interviewer) actually believes that some guy called the poophet actually rode a winged horse into the skies, and what exactly does this have to do with day to day life like getting a bit of crumpet, a few beers, and a nice curry afterwards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Like Russell, Dawkins always loses these arguments, as his socalled "science" is a belief system too (although a slightly less ridiculous one with more relevance to the way we live nowadays).
    Dawkins is a naturalist, but I don't find that distracts from his arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munted View Post
    , and what exactly does this have to do with day to day life like getting a bit of crumpet, a few beers, and a nice curry afterwards?
    Heaven is pussy or more to the point the climax where Self is absent.
    The resurection is the re-erection into heaven.
    And 'Winged Horse' was a special brew back in the day.
    Probably made up with opium and weed.

    The control merchants took Measurement and Time to the psychological
    when they said, 'do this, don't do that' and you will go to Heaven when you die
    and from a young age, 6 or 7 the mind is occupied.
    Tow the party line or go to Hell.

    Know that when you die, you're dead forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    Know that when you die, you're dead forever
    I hope you're wrong but I know you're right.

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    The Manufactured Self is easily fooled.
    Insanity rules, ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    The Manufactured Self is easily fooled.
    Insanity rules, ok.
    Dumbed down conditioning.
    The clarion of the day.

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    At least 1400 - 2000 yrs of propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper View Post
    The positive effects of religion are relevant.
    Basic right and wrong.
    Heisenberg,Quantum Science and Schroedinger contradict certainty.

    Einstein averred God doesn't play dice but reality does
    Many folks find science too hard but it does not invalidate it.


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