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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
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    And Vietnam...Wherever the French have been, you'll find good coffee...
    I'm sure they take credit for the sun rising every morning too.
    No...that would be the imperial English.

    And all this time I've been taught that it was the Nippon that held that distinction. The land of the rising sun, Japan. Not to be confused with the house of the rising sun. That would be in New Orleans. War pigs told me so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx View Post
    .... and this is what I put in my coffee maker. Except I get the extra strong blend.

    Yes, that's what Im talking about. I'm a little slow since I drank the decalf. Good for you, I'll be filling my bags of it on the way home. I hope to find it in the non production sack. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
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    Just make sure you screw it tight, they can explode.
    Withnall will be wanking furiously...Where's that emoticon?...
    I knew when i wrote it, some silly bastard would catch up on it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
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    Back to coffee, I believe it was the French during the protectorate years that began the coffee farming in Laos but I may be wrong. I will check it out first hand and sample the real deal soon.
    And Vietnam...Wherever the French have been, you'll find good coffee...
    Have to disagree with you there, Vietnam coffee sucks, it's all robusta. Having said that I don't mind it for a change when they put it with ice and condensed milk.
    It's not coffee as you know it but it's an interesting beverage.

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    Meanwhile here in the UK we have Macmillan cancer support coffee mornings each year , this is where groups of people usually bake their own cakes and make coffee to raise money for cancer support . Not only individuals take part but companies do as well , I believe M+S being one of the big companies to take part and donate.

    Here in our road we do coffee mornings in our homes late in September usually tied in with a trip around the gardens .

    Last years figures raised over £25 million






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    I drink homemade ice coffee. I mix premium milk, good western coffee and Olieng then blend. Tastes great and costs less than 50 cents per cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    back in the day my dad used to take a coffee in here ,, Lyons coffee houses , often built around corner plots
    Same here, although I had an ice cream and my mum had a coffee and fresh cream meringue.

    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    I have never understood why people pay so much money for this crap
    To be seen inside a shop or display their wealth on the street. It's nothing about the coffee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    I drink only local coffee, grown here in Batangas province. Black only..no cream or sugar. A month's supply costs
    Local farm, local roast, my "local lass" to make it for me using a Krupps mill and Bailetti espresso pot. Maybe my own coffee beans next year. Price of roasted coffee beans 320 Baht a Kilo. A kilo lasts me 2 months. 6 Baht a day usually 3 cups a day equals 2 baht a serving. The Krups mill I noticed can be bought in Homepro, Chantaburi, the bailetti pot, plus replacement "O" rings, from a Bangkok source. No source for a replacement handle or pressure valve, anybody know of one in Thailand.







    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    8 billion in worldwide sales, they must be doing something right
    Marketing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Have you ever seen a Thai drinking a proper cup of hot coffee? Seems all they drink is higly sugared milky iced confections.
    Not just Thais, most world wide do the same, more hot, but use coffeemate. The most profitable product for Nestle Asia is the Three in One pouch said a marleting manager from Nestle during a flight to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Vietnam coffee sucks, it's all robusta.
    It's not the ingredients it's the grinding, boiling, stewing , sugar and condensed milk which makes it shit.


    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx
    nd the handle melted off the first time that I used it ...... cheap Chinese copy
    Read the fucking instructions. The same thing happened to me with a EU purchased pot. The instructions specifically state, now, to ensure the handle is not placed over a heat source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    Start a franchise and serve brekkie, baconandeggs...You are what you eat...
    Do they sell Tim Hortons' franchises? I'd love to move to Montreal...just dreaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post

    It's not the ingredients it's the grinding, boiling, stewing , sugar and condensed milk which makes it shit.
    But it's mostly that they use low grade robusta beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    It's not the ingredients it's the grinding, boiling, stewing , sugar and condensed milk which makes it shit.
    Well, in this case...not really.

    They are simply low quality coffee beans. They do exist y'know.

    It's the world's largest coffee producer apparently, but the low quality means it mostly goes to make 'instant'.

    Doubtless good vietnamese beans do exist, but generally it's barbecued rat droppings.

    Anyone who regards Vietnam as a haven of quality coffee must have asbestos for a tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconandeggs View Post
    I drink homemade ice coffee. I mix premium milk, good western coffee and Olieng then blend. Tastes great and costs less than 50 cents per cup.
    A question I often ask myself is would it be quicker to google 'olieng' or to post asking 'WTF is 'olieng''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by baconandeggs View Post
    I drink homemade ice coffee. I mix premium milk, good western coffee and Olieng then blend. Tastes great and costs less than 50 cents per cup.
    A question I often ask myself is would it be quicker to google 'olieng' or to post asking 'WTF is 'olieng''.
    It's just cheap Thai black coffee isn't it? โอเลี้ยง

    Not sure why anyone would mix "premium milk", "good western coffee" and cheap Thai black coffee. Just drink the good western coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Not sure why anyone would mix "premium milk", "good western coffee" and cheap Thai black coffee.
    Being a cheap charlie is the only one I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    low grade robusta beans
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    low quality coffee beans. They do exist y'know
    In what way are the beans low grade. Are they not grown correctly, picked correctly, dried correctly,roasted correctly, broken beans, not milled correctly , not served correctly? Or is it they are Robusta?

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    Mainly the fact that it's Robusta, yes.

    A low quality, bitter bean compared to Arabica.

    And I'm guessing that providing for the world's largest purveyors of instant coffee means little incentive to raise quality.

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    There was an interesting article in the BBC recently about quality. Here's a selection of it. Click on the link for the full article.


    Brazilian farmers wake up to their own specialist coffee - BBC News


    Brazilian farmers wake up to their own specialist coffee

    2 October 2015

    Coffee has been the economic backbone of this region - on the border between the Brazilian states of Minas Gerais and Espirito Santo - for more than a century.

    But after years of a commodity-fuelled boom, economies like Brazil are having a hard time adjusting to slower global demand and lower prices.

    Over the decades, the Lacerda family has known fortune and poverty, with their wealth always oscillating around coffee. Droughts, government policies, global consumption, currency problems - these were blessings and curses that determined the fate of the Lacerdas.

    But in the past five years, farmers in this region are finding new ways to make their own fortunes, trying to move away from producing cheap commodity beans and instead invest in top quality production.

    The valley is filled with coffee trees - but not all of it produces particularly good coffee. In the past, farmers would collect all beans, put them in bags and ship them abroad, getting whatever prices were listed in the commodity markets.

    Now Tarcisio and his family are separating the best beans - most of which are from trees 1,500 metres above sea level - and producing their own specialty brands. The rest is sold to the market as cheaper, unprocessed green beans.

    "Usually you double your price - going from commodity to specialty," he says.
    "A bag of commodity coffee is now worth 450 reais ($110; £72) - but we can sell specialty at around 900 or 1000 reais ($220 or $240)," he says.

    Tarcisio takes me to his neighbour's farm - Forquilha do Rio - which has been winning some of Brazil's top awards for coffee.

    Their quality has to do with the favourable local conditions - mild temperatures, good sun exposure and high altitude.

    "We knew our coffee was good, but we had no idea it was this good," says Afonso de Abreu Lacerda (no relation to Tarcisio), in front of a cabinet packed with trophies.

    "It wasn't until we started competing in awards, about five years ago, that we learned just how valuable it was," he adds.

    Brazil is the world's top producer and exporter of coffee by a large margin. It makes about a third of the world's coffee - but virtually all of it is green beans of very low aggregate value.

    "A specialty coffee can be sold at 300% more value than a non-specialty coffee," ...

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    Always good fun to look at chemistry, I am sure you will agree.

    Below are the compounds in ground fresh coffee based upon arabica beans. These are the specific ones that impact the aroma, which as aroma is 70-80% of the taste, give a vital indication to the chemical make up of the taste of fresh coffee.




    The processing used to change lovely fresh ground coffee into the gravy granule soup that Nigel enjoys has a devastating effect on these compounds. The high temperatures (evaporating) and super low temperatures (freeze drying) severely affect the thermolabile compounds. This is compounded by the fact that all processing is initiated with hot water and steam which will literally soak away all of the water-soluble compounds (e.g., polysaccharides and oligosaccharides). Added to this, as I mentioned earlier, that the heat literally burns away any oil based compounds, and the cold separates them and are discarded, it is quite obvious that instant coffee can and never will be anything close to as good as fresh coffee.

    But... it all comes down to personal taste, or lack of, and what you are used to.

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    A simply comparison of the chemical compounds of fresh ground v instant.



    Instant coffee is concentrated, so you see a slight spike in Caffeine and minerals as a percentage of content. This is because their presence is not affected by the heat and water. However, the rest of all the lovely goodies that go into gorgeous fresh ground coffee have been tossed into the shitter. now just because as a percentage caffeine appears to be higher, does not actually mean that in a cup of joe it is. Instant you might use one or two teaspoons of coffee per cup, where as with fresh, you would likely use double or quadruple that. Also, the pressure of the water as it passes through the coffee has an impact as to how much of the compounds get released as well.

    But.. it is all down to personal preference.

    Some prefer this watery gravy stuff;



    and other prefer this rich smooth silky exquisite creation that is truly one of gods (if he exists) gift to man




    ... at least no one is saying that 3 in 1 is the epitome of coffee yet......

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Added to this, as I mentioned earlier, that the heat literally burns away any oil based compounds, and the cold separates them and are discarded, it is quite obvious that instant coffee can and never will be anything close to as good as fresh coffee.
    You need a scientific study to tell you that?
    Anyone who's drank both can tell you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by baconandeggs View Post
    I drink homemade ice coffee. I mix premium milk, good western coffee and Olieng then blend. Tastes great and costs less than 50 cents per cup.
    A question I often ask myself is would it be quicker to google 'olieng' or to post asking 'WTF is 'olieng''.
    It's just cheap Thai black coffee isn't it? โอเลี้ยง

    Not sure why anyone would mix "premium milk", "good western coffee" and cheap Thai black coffee. Just drink the good western coffee.

    It adds some sweetness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by baconandeggs View Post
    I drink homemade ice coffee. I mix premium milk, good western coffee and Olieng then blend. Tastes great and costs less than 50 cents per cup.
    A question I often ask myself is would it be quicker to google 'olieng' or to post asking 'WTF is 'olieng''.
    How long have you been in Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconandeggs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by baconandeggs View Post
    I drink homemade ice coffee. I mix premium milk, good western coffee and Olieng then blend. Tastes great and costs less than 50 cents per cup.
    A question I often ask myself is would it be quicker to google 'olieng' or to post asking 'WTF is 'olieng''.
    How long have you been in Thailand?
    Why do you ask?

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