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    Less than half of teachers have a degree in the subject they teach

    We often hear criticisms of the overall standard of teachers in Thailand. In particular, those "expats" working within the system.

    It might not be a surprise to learn then that less than half of primary school teachers have 2 A-levels. Or, that less than half of secondary school teachers have degrees in the subject they teach. Not surprising that is, until you're told that we are actually talking about teachers in the UK, not LoS.

    source: Less than half of teachers have degree in subject - Times Online

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    I think probably 1 percent of expat teachers here have a degree of any sort, although my 2 mates got their degrees, and they cheated, they didn't even fill out the internet purchase form themselves when they bought them.

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    ^^I don't think it has ever been any different, has it?

    As long as teaching attracts low wages and little respect, they are not going to attract quality graduates.

    In Australia, the lowest entry HSC mark qualifies you for a B ed and so it attracts people who didn't particularly want to be teachers but didn't have the entry marks for anything else.

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    I don't think 100 to 150k baht per month can be considered a low wage lily thats what the proper foriegn teachers get aint it.

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    ^More like 70 to 200k baht I think DD

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    Do they pay teachers in the UK in Baht now or have we been speed-reading again ?

    Quote Originally Posted by William
    we are actually talking about teachers in the UK, not LoS
    Excellent way to bring out the knee-jerk reactions William
    Last edited by DrB0b; 09-07-2007 at 10:54 PM.

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    Where I live there are loads of un-qualified teachers. They say they earn in the region of 50-60k baht permonth.
    I often see wanted ads for English teachers and in 2 years in this city have never seen a job offering more than 35k per month.

    I wonder where those guys I talked to got their high paying jobs from

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    It might not be a surprise to learn then that less than half of primary school teachers have 2 A-levels. Or, that less than half of secondary school teachers have degrees in the subject they teach. Not surprising that is, until you're told that we are actually talking about teachers in the UK, not LoS.
    Well I taught in the UK as a Science / Physics teacher but my degree at that point was in Mechanical Engineering. So I would be part of the majority who didn't have a degree in their subject.

    The best teachers in UK schools are not clever fuckers they're the ones with some enthusiasm and the ability to put the fear of God into the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    I don't think 100 to 150k baht per month
    In the US That's about all they earn, IN fact with the current exchange rate they may be able to come here and make a higher salary at that rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    I don't think 100 to 150k baht per month can be considered a low wage lily thats what the proper foriegn teachers get aint it.
    But I am talking about the real world dd, where the wages are not high.

    I agree with frankie, they would do better to teach outside their countries.

    And everyone at our company earns well over 35000.

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    Being an expert in a subject doesn't make you a good teacher.
    Just because someone did a degree in Engineering, or Law, doesn't mean they can't teach another subject as long as they have an understanding of how to teach and know enough about the subject to get the students interested in it.

    It's a rather blinkered point of view to suggest that something you study for 3 or 4 years between the ages of 18 and 22 should dictate your teaching career.
    The truth is out there, but then I'm stuck in here.

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    ^I agree

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    ^^ having said that, a good teacher does need a good knowledge of their subject area also.

    Problem in the west is the schools demand various teachers teach several different subject areas, (makes it easier to sor the timetable i guess) whereas in the internationla system it is completely unheard of for a teacher to teach anything other than their 'area'

    Its also an expectation that said teacher will stay current in the subject area, and not just rest upon what they learnt in Uni....

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