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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    How would you feel if you got refused service everywhere you went just because your views on sexuality are repulsive to most people in the UK?
    Annoyed , because I would have to go all the way to that cake shop in Belfast to get my loaf every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    What's your problem with queers anyway? Some Freudian issue? Have you any idea how much of a minority your views put you in?. Hardly anybody gives a toss abot anybodys sexuality these days.
    Ok so when you was a teenager Bob and some queer approached you in a public toilet what did you do ?

    Its ok I don't want to hear the sordid details , but when I was in this situation I kicked seven bells of shit out the bender .

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    this cake shop
    is a freaking cake shop, not a Church or a political party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Hardly anybody gives a toss abot anybodys sexuality these days.
    Well I sit in our tea hut every morning before work starts with about 25 other lorry drivers and I can assure you ( well apart from one who,s not quite sure ) your view would get laughed out the door , to put it politely

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    It seems that Gay activists had been targeting bakeries and photography stores in a bid to prove their discrimination and bias in the US as well , so it's not just the UK !!

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    Originally Posted by DrB0b
    How would you feel if you got refused service everywhere you went just because your views on sexuality are repulsive to most people in the UK?
    they weren't exactly refused service, the owners refused to print a message that contradicted they strongly held religious beliefs.

    the couple that asked for that message to be printed, instead of forcing their beliefs on the bakers shop, should have respected their views and got their cake baked somewhere else.

    would you dare go to a muslim owned business and ask them for a service which you knew full well was contrary to their strongly held religious beliefs.

    i doubt it very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    Ok so when you was a teenager Bob and some queer approached you in a public toilet what did you do ? ,
    Politely decline and go about my business?

    I was in this situation I kicked seven bells of shit out the bender
    Ah yes the good ole days when men were men and sheep were terrified, things ain't what they were, now they gone and banned all the fun stuff from our youth, bear baiting, banned! Dog fighting , banned! Lynching Niggas for looking at white women, banned! They even banned date rape for fuks sake, I mean how's a bloke supposed to get his jollies off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    this cake shop
    is a freaking cake shop, not a Church or a political party.

    Would you go into a Muslim owned print shop in the UK ( not a mosque, but a print shop) and ask them to print up some cards featuring Pippa the Pig or a poster advertising alcohol or a representation of the prophet Mohammed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    this cake shop
    is a freaking cake shop, not a Church or a political party.

    Would you go into a Muslim owned print shop in the UK ( not a mosque, but a print shop) and ask them to print up some cards featuring Pippa the Pig or a poster advertising alcohol or a representation of the prophet Mohammed?
    They'd probably arrest you for hate crimes.
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    It would be interesting if this ruling was tested in a Muslim owned business.
    I use the example of Muslims, because they, more than any other, are defined by their religious beliefs.


    District Judge Isobel Brownlie said although the bakers were entitled to their religious beliefs, implementing them at work impinged on others’ rights.

    "The defendants have unlawfully discriminated against the plaintiff on grounds of sexual discrimination," she added.

    "This is direct discrimination for which there can be no justification."
    Does this mean that Muslims cannot take time off from work to pray? because it means that others will have to do extra work to cover for them, or Jews take leave for their New Year holidays, or that Muslims cannot refuse to work on the pork counter or alcohol displays at Tescos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    I use the example of Muslims, because they, more than any other, are defined by their religious beliefs.
    Bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    What's your problem with queers anyway?
    Their sexuality is the problem. Their sexuality is abnormal. It is not their fault. As long they understand that society is doing them a favour by tolerating them within some limits then apart from that they should pull their necks in and stop trying pursue some absurd political agenda where society should have to recognise their sexual appetites as normal, which they are not.

    Sexuality is one of the most emotive issues for humans for evolutionary reasons. People will alwasy react emotionally to issues relating to sexuality. People who suffer from abnormal sexual desires are doing well in a modern society which affords them some legal protections but they should understand that ythis is an act of generosity from society and show some appreciation by keeping a low profile.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Hardly anybody gives a toss abot anybodys sexuality these days.
    Are paedophiles and bestialists OK in your book or do you discrimiate against them based on their sexuality?

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    Bollocks.
    dietary restrictions, the covering up of womens bodies, praying 5 times a day.

    it is a very strict religion, it takes a lot of discipline to be an observant muslim in western society and as i said, their beliefs define them, much more than say a christian, buddhist or jew (apart from the orthodox jews, whose lives also are pretty much ruled by their beliefs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Hardly anybody gives a toss abot anybodys sexuality these days.
    Are paedophiles and bestialists OK in your book or do you discrimiate against them based on their sexuality?
    Perhaps Dr. Bob isn't familiar with NAMBLA.

    North American Man Boy Love Association.

    Protected by the US Constitution for some strange reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Hardly anybody gives a toss abot anybodys sexuality these days.
    Are paedophiles and bestialists OK in your book or do you discrimiate against them based on their sexuality?
    Pedophilia is criminal perversion that impacts societies most vulnerable in the most horrendous way imaginable, it doesn't qualify as a valid sexual preference any more than cold blooded murder qualifies as compassionate euthanasia

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    If I were the owners I would close the business down. It's the only way to deal with fucking stupid judgements although I should think in the first instance they should take this to the Supreme Court and if they can't see sense then take it to Strasbourg.

    Nigel, this has fuck all to do with the EU. In fact, it is the EU which can overturn such nonsense.

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    Ever go for the back door at all, looper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Originally Posted by DrB0b
    How would you feel if you got refused service everywhere you went just because your views on sexuality are repulsive to most people in the UK?
    they weren't exactly refused service, the owners refused to print a message that contradicted they strongly held religious beliefs.

    the couple that asked for that message to be printed, instead of forcing their beliefs on the bakers shop, should have respected their views and got their cake baked somewhere else.

    would you dare go to a muslim owned business and ask them for a service which you knew full well was contrary to their strongly held religious beliefs.

    i doubt it very much.

    This is a better point, and nobody who is posting in agreement with this utterly daft ruling seems to be addressing it.

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    It's a silly point and one obviously made by somebody who lives in cloud-cuckoo land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Hardly anybody gives a toss abot anybodys sexuality these days.
    Are paedophiles and bestialists OK in your book or do you discrimiate against them based on their sexuality?
    Pedophilia is criminal perversion that impacts societies most vulnerable in the most horrendous way imaginable, it doesn't qualify as a valid sexual preference any more than cold blooded murder qualifies as compassionate euthanasia
    Yes, that is true. It is also caused by badly wired sex drive circuitry in the brain and is not the fault of the sufferer. Homosexuality is also an example of badly wired sex drive circuitry in the brain. It may not have helpless victims in the way that paedophilia does but neither is it normal, correct or deserving of recognition as a correctly developed expression of sexuality in the way that heterosexuality is.

    The best we can do is to sympathise with sufferers and afford them toleration and support but not equality with heterosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Would a Jewish baker then be forced under the law to decorate a cake with nazi symbolism, or a Muslim baker a cake with a picture of Mohammed or Pippa the Pig, or how about the gay owner of a t-shirt printing shop being asked to print a shirt denouncing gay marriage.
    The first two are covered under laws against inciting hatred.

    I don't think Bert and Ernie fall into that category quite yet, although they probably should do.

    As for the latter, as long as it is not illegal, he or she would have no recourse but to comply or face the same fate as the bigoted jesus wheezer.

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    It's a silly point and one obviously made by somebody who lives in cloud-cuckoo land.
    dont be such an arse. you are another one of those "if you dont agree with my point of view you must be silly/ill informed/from another planet" sorts.

    Those two could have gone to any number of bakers for their right-on cake, but no, they chose a bakery that they knew was run by people who would have a problem with their request, and in doing so, showed them none of the respect that they aggressively demand from others, and had no consideration for those peoples views, they purposely and quite unnecessarily provoked them.

    Would you deliberately make a request of a Muslim businessman that you know would contradict his strongly held views on his religion, no of course you wouldnt. you would have respect for his beliefs and not wish to cause a confrontation.

    The gay lobby use this tactic a lot, cheered on by the execrable, childish and liberal left I might add, forcing their views and beliefs on those who, although they may disagree with those views, have no wish to push their agenda.

    Those gays were malicious and hurtful to people who although disagreeing with their lifestyle, had no wish to interfere with it but just didnt feel they could promote it.
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    As for the latter, as long as it is not illegal, he or she would have no recourse but to comply or face the same fate as the bigoted jesus wheezer.
    Then perhaps it is time for the gay lobby, if they can find someone man enough, to test the waters with our Muslim brethren, and see what sort of reaction they get.

    But whatever they do, better they dont mention Charlie Hebdo.

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    [QUOTE=taxexile;3018853]

    But whatever they do, better they dont mention Charlie Hebdo.
    Or the guy who won the cartoon contest in TX either...

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