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    Who are you Mad dog?

    The John Gault of Teflers?

    And I wouldn't feel too vindicated if I were you. The poster who posted that rubbish is 'Long' alias the universally hated exmod Smiley.
    Last edited by Lily; 14-06-2007 at 09:30 AM.

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    What is this all about? I'm kind of lost on this one.

    Who is JD? why is he in China. Why is this not posted on a chinese forum?

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    ^
    Seems to be a thread on taking the piss out of stupid threads on Ajarn and TV.

    Has some real possibilities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Man, this little cloistered world of the TEFLer is strange...
    i dont really wanna slag off every person who teaches TEFL, some of them do try and do a good job, but that last line of yours just rings sooooooooo true..... some o them really do live in a cloistered little world of their own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    I agree, if they try this one on my daughter I'd personally front them, and I'm 6'2", 110 kg of mean shit, that can hurl abuse in Thai pretty well.
    Actually I'm looking forward to it, now that I think of it.
    Oh dear, he is a member here and wants to go and threaten 50 kilo women, some brave guys out there.

    I thought he's your mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Who are you Mad dog?

    The John Gault of Teflers?

    And I wouldn't feel too vindicated if I were you. The poster who posted that rubbish is 'Long' alias the universally hated exmod Smiley.
    Do you work at ECC/Inl**gua, Lily?

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    Hey Lily.
    Why can't I get into ajarn with my new nickname.
    Who banned it and why?

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    ^What is it?

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    I can't tell you owing to you being a mod unfortunately.

    I only managed to post about 6 times.
    I know I'm not entering the wrong details because they are saved in my cookies and pop up every time I try to log into the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I can't tell you owing to you being a mod unfortunately
    I think we have only banned Smeg for the 1220th time, this week.

    Maybe Phil has been zapping people. He probably thought you were diaw!

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    knut?

    turdologist?

    few interesting newbies over there.....

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    Nope.
    Problem is, I can't view the ice box as guest and that has always been my favourite part of the forum, except maybe for troubleshooting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    He probably thought you were diaw!
    The backstabbing turd who worshipped the ground that he walked on yet got his knickers in a twist when he wouldn't give him a reach around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    I can't tell you owing to you being a mod unfortunately
    I think we have only banned Smeg for the 1220th time, this week.

    Maybe Phil has been zapping people. He probably thought you were diaw!
    Lily Jellybean, you need have no fears of diaw's spending time over at Ajarn. I very seldom ever bother to look the site over - perhaps 1 time in a month, & then it's so same-old-same-old, that I move on in around 5 minutes.

    I lost any respect I formerly had for the Bangkok Shill ages ago. You lot are most welcome to your turf - I'm surprised Smeg still bothers. Each to his own, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Nope.
    Problem is, I can't view the ice box as guest and that has always been my favourite part of the forum, except maybe for troubleshooting.

    I have a 'clean' ID. Do you want to try that one?

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    ^
    If you don't mind Marmite.


    So long as the user name isn't "welshdwarf" or something similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    ^
    If you don't mind Marmite.


    So long as the user name isn't "welshdwarf" or something similar.
    Would 'welshdork' serve the purpose? I would imagine the mods over there are too thick to understand that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Who are you Mad dog?

    The John Gault of Teflers?
    No I just have this funny feeling that people who boast about being violent criminals and fiddling with their young female charges shouldn't be allowed to get away with it. You and Bangkok_shill think it is ok but don't expect me to go along with it you fool.
    They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog
    and fiddling with their young female
    I dont remember that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog
    and fiddling with their young female
    I dont remember that one.
    "Mr. Danger admits to having a criminal past and does his best to hide it. He has also taught in Thai classrooms. "
    Taking Back the Profession


    He posted comments about improving students grades in return for sexual favours but you know best eh Lil'?

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    come on lily get into ldmas trash bin and have a look round, you know he dont like deleting stuff cos it brings the post count down, as we see everytime the fool leaves his mods room open and then goes round threatening everyone with a ban if they post anything from the mods room

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog
    He posted comments about improving students grades in return for sexual favours but you know best eh Lil'?
    I thought this was common practise and one of the attractions for TEFLers, or why else would anyone put up with the low pay and abyssmal working conditions? Aren't you happy with these 'perks' coming your way maddog?

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    Taking Back the Profession: Getting Rid of the ESL Riff-Raff.

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    One needs only to peruse the ajarn.com forum, or any of the other teacher's websites from Dave's ESL Cafe to pusanweb.com in Korea, to come face-to-face, or computer terminal to computer terminal with the biggest and loudest bunch of educational buffoons, social losers, sexual creeps, and degenerate drunks in all of cyberspace. These whining weasels, who have the audacity to pass themselves off as English teachers, possess not an ounce of responsibility as they take it upon themselves to endlessly pontificate about the integrity of the educational system.

    Their mindless pieces of garbage, in response to the MoE's attempt at improving the system of teaching ESL in Thailand, meant to spark discussion and debate, but it also pointed out the deep division within the ESL community, (if, indeed, there is such a thing as an ESL community). More importantly, a great many of the messages posted on the ajarn.com forum exhibited a woeful lack of intelligence and low standards of a great many of those who are, or think they are, ESL teachers.


    It is not helpful that ESL teachers, however good or bad they happen to be, are against these attempts by the MoE to improve a very poor system. And it is not helpful that many schools are also fighting these attempts by the MoE. A blaring and biased headline on ajarn.com bears this out: "Phuket Schools Flying Flag For Teachers."

    In a recent article in the Phuket Gazette, schools on the Island will ask the Phuket Governor to drop the new regulations which require "all new teachers to have at least a bachelor's degree and to pass an extensive background check before they can begin work."

    The article continues,

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    "The new policy requires that all foreign teachers possess at least a bachelor's degree, a certified copy of which must be presented to the local MoE office along with a certified copy of the applicant's transcript (academic record).

    Before hiring a new teacher, schools must wait for approval from the MoE's International Education Promotion Division, which must check the authenticity of the teacher's credentials by seeking a confirmation letter from the university the applicant claims to be a graduate of."

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    Does this mean that 22 year old Johnny English, that backpacker high-school dropout who can "like barely speak English dude" let alone teach it, is not allowed in a Thai classroom anymore? Does this mean that Fat Frank Flanagan, that late 40 something Viagra popper who almost graduated from university, can't pass himself off as an English teacher anymore? Does this mean that Michael McGoo, who just wants to spend six months in Thailand soaking up the sun, can't finance his sojourn in the land of smiles with a Khao San Road bachelor's degree and a little teaching on the side? Excuse me while I cry a river.



    On November 5th, I wrote this on the ajarn teacher's forum:



    "Isn't it interesting that the most vociferous critics of MoE's new restrictions are greedy language school owners/directors and teachers who view Thailand as their own personal playground. Strange bedfellows, indeed."

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    Here's one response from someone who calls himself Jonny Danger. Mr. Danger admits to having a criminal past and does his best to hide it. He has also taught in Thai classrooms.

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    "If Steve Shitzer is your workmate, please ask him this: What about the kids? They need a teacher. Do they care if their teacher doesn't have 400,000,000,000 B in the bank? Does it matter to them he needs to cross the border every month in order to remain teaching them? If they like their teacher, if they're learning some English from him, if they are in contact with a good-hearted person of whom they admire, do they want an immigration soldier to come to their school and yank him out and wait months for his replacement to arrive?"



    And this from Mr. Danger on the ajarn teacher's forum as well:

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    "Sitting in a drawer across from me at this moment is a copy of an FBI background check done a year ago. If I were to hand this original over to the Thai authorities, would my process of proof be finished? In having this receipt, does it prove I'd never yearn for deep tongue injection with children, or would it mean I have yet to be busted for it?"

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    And one more from Mr. Danger. Commenting on the John Mark Karr controversy,

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    "All the time Thai teachers are doing all John Karr dreamed of, and more."

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    This is from a thread on the ajarn forum titled, "Phuket Schools Fighting Teacher's Regulations." To this day it has 283 replies and over 4,200 hits. Now let's take some of his points, however ludicrous one thinks they are.

    What about the kids? Yes they need a teacher. ESL students need a good teacher, a caring teacher, a dedicated and committed teacher. A teacher that does not have the proper credentials and has to cross the border every month must be replaced, at least until this teacher does have the proper credentials so he wouldn't have to cross the border every month. The students deserve at least that. Yes it's important that the students like their teacher, but it's more important--- much more important that they learn something from him. After all, students pay their money to learn what they need to learn.

    The ESL teaching experience, Mr. Danger is not about liking the teacher as much as it's about trusting the teacher. Teaching is not, nor should it ever be, a popularity contest where ESL instructors dance around the classroom like a clown, or go out drinking and dancing with their students. There are no pageants, contests, or competitions to see which teacher can drink more, sing better, or look better. Language schools must become the professional organizations that so many of them profess to be, and ESL teachers must become the professional instructors that a profession like teaching expects them to be.

    Now I don't mean to single out Mr. Barry or Jonny Danger. They are just two of many people who, for whatever reason, are fighting any attempt to improve the standards of ESL teaching and learning. I'm sure they would be fun to have a beer with, but there are some very important questions that beg to be asked: Where is the responsibility here, especially towards the students? Where is the ethics and professional standards that the students deserve from those in positions of power?

    Before people start to say, "Yeah Steve, I know what you mean, but the reality is that there are good teachers without a degree and the proper documents, and there are bad teachers with degrees and the proper papers." To that, I say "Stop it!" There have always been, and always will be, exceptional people who, for whatever reason, do not meet any objective standards. It is unfortunate that a few good teachers will probably slip through the cracks of these new restrictions and guidelines. But they will be a very small minority, and the kinks of this system, like the kinks in any system will be worked out in due time.

    Let's be very clear about something: We are talking about setting objective standards to a profession that is long overdue. And by setting these standards, we will be getting rid of a whole lot of really bad people; people that have absolutely no business stepping foot inside a classroom, in Thailand or anywhere else. This reality completely and unequivocally trumps any attempts by language school directors to put into their classrooms unqualified or under-qualified teachers simply because they like them, or because they can sing well in a karaoke bar, or can drink three bottles of Korean soju, or simply because this blonde babe from the U.K. looks damn good in a mini-skirt.

    It may be a cheap shot to bring up John Mark Karr, the very same John Mark Karr who recently appeared on the Dr. Keith Ablow show in the United States and boldly declared that he saw nothing wrong with a six year old girl putting her tongue in his mouth; the very same John Mark Karr who compared himself to an ice-cream cone for little children; and the very same John Mark Karr who was found teaching English in a Thai classroom.

    As for those schools who continue to employ dodgy and unemployable ESL teachers, give them one final warning then close their doors permanently! As for those dodgy and unemployable ESL teachers, give them one final warning to clean up their act, or they get deported immediately. The teaching profession is just that: A profession. And any profession must have within it, people who are responsible, dependable, qualified, committed, and dedicated. I've said this before, and I'll say it again, inherent in the teaching profession is the responsibility and a deep desire within every teacher to improve the profession and the educational system; a system of which we are all a part.

    The final word goes to an ajarn poster who goes by the name "Haltest." In the aforementioned thread "Phuket Schools fighting Teacher Regulations", he had this to say:



    "Those who can't face or deal with the checks, you've got fair warning to get your paperwork up to speed. Don't complain when they do hit. It might not be today, tomorrow, but it will happen one day. And on that day foreign teachers perhaps can claim back some dignity for a profession that a small minority of unemployable and uneducated losers have maligned."

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    Wow! I couldn't have said it better myself.



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    That is a superb article.
    Very well written indeed.

    A bit better than your little rants eh DD?
    There are quite a few real teachers in Thailand.

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    But then, there are lots of crazed mofos like maddog, smeg or ldma who can barely speak, never mind spell English and just want to score illegal drugs or get into their students' knickers!

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