Thread: Isis beheading video brings calls for rethink of UK domestic terrorism fight

Originally Posted by Koojo

You're kidding right. let's start with Tibet shall we, then we'll tealk about Xinjiang (East Turjikistan) __________________

Xinjiang has been part of China since the 1750's (not 1950's), Tibet since 1910- the last 'imperial' expansion of China. Hardly the sort of stuff to make Hitler jealous.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Koojo

You're kidding right. let's start with Tibet shall we, then we'll tealk about Xinjiang (East Turjikistan) __________________

Xinjiang has been part of China since the 1750's (not 1950's), Tibet since 1910- the last 'imperial' expansion of China. Hardly the sort of stuff to make Hitler jealous.

...or Victoria.

I had a little chuckle when I heard that ISIS have got a fucking Twitter account...

Originally Posted by flashbang

I had a little chuckle when I heard that ISIS have got a fucking Twitter account...

Sure...makes sense.

Sign of the times.

Originally Posted by OhOh

they have been unable to assert their proven title/authority.

You don't happen to have a copy of their title to the South China Sea do you?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by OhOh

they have been unable to assert their proven title/authority.

You don't happen to have a copy of their title to the South China Sea do you?

Written on the backside of the document that entitled Britain to lord over Hong Kong.....

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Humbert

You don't happen to have a copy of their title to the South China Sea do you?

Take a read of this:

THE CAMBRIDGE HISTORY OF SOUTHEAST ASIA VOLUME ONE
From Early Times to c.1800
edited by NICHOLAS TARLING

There is also a second volume from 1800, both are PDF files on the internet.

Admittedly it is a western view point but they cover all SE Asian countries in depth. Printed in 1992 so history as many "know it" will have changed somewhat.


Something to get absorbed in during the wet season.

With due respect...
If one truly wants to get into it - there is a wealth of sources that are much more worthy and real regarding SE Asian historiography than these Cambridge editions.

I didn't think so.

Originally Posted by Humbert

I didn't think so

I am so glad you took the time out to read the two volumes.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

I was referring to Islamic intentions to take over the world, not to pan-Arabism, a totally different movement.

Now you have seen the light. Well done.

As I said in the beginning, world domination is an Islamic ambition.

Originally Posted by ENT

world domination is an Islamic ambition.

So world domination is an Islamic, a Chinese, and a Russian ambition. Everything in fact but a Western ambition. yawwn

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

I was referring to Islamic intentions to take over the world, not to pan-Arabism, a totally different movement.

Now you have seen the light. Well done.

As I said in the beginning, world domination is an Islamic ambition.

I see more evidence of the USA wanting world domination than anything related to Islam.

Danish military researcher: Islam’s plan for caliphate includes world domination
Aug 14, 2014

Lars Bangert Struwe, a researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Centre for Military Studies … says that “the conflict has gone from being political to be religious” … the current conflict will last several years.

Lars Bangert Struwe believes that the international community has hesitated too long.

“I’m not so concerned about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They’ll be able to negotiate at one time or another.

I am far more concerned about Syria and Iraq, where individuals are born who want to fight for a higher political case, that reaches beyond state level, and by all means, including their own death, are ready to make an attempt to change the world.

As I read it, the concept of the Islamic caliphate is that it should cover the whole world, and that it is not just something that concerns the local area,” he says, calling himself a pessimist on the Middle East’s behalf.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/da...rld-domination

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by ENT

world domination is an Islamic ambition.

So world domination is an Islamic, a Chinese, and a Russian ambition. Everything in fact but a Western ambition. yawwn

Yup, they all have that ambition, but that sad fact still doesn't exclude Islam from the game.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

I was referring to Islamic intentions to take over the world, not to pan-Arabism, a totally different movement.

Now you have seen the light. Well done.

As I said in the beginning, world domination is an Islamic ambition.

I see more evidence of the USA wanting world domination than anything related to Islam.

That's right, I forgot you 're blind on one side of your brain, it's called being a Muslim.

Originally Posted by ENT

Lars Bangert Struwe, a researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Centre for Military Studies … says that “the conflict has gone from being political to be religious” … the current conflict will last several years.

The current conflict term is very misleading

I kind of remember that the Christians and Muslims have been at it since the Crusades. I may be wrong though.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by ENT

Lars Bangert Struwe, a researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Centre for Military Studies … says that “the conflict has gone from being political to be religious” … the current conflict will last several years.

The current conflict term is very misleading

I kind of remember that the Christians and Muslims have been at it since the Crusades. I may be wrong though.

This conflict is between Muslims and Muslims .
I.S. against Syria and Iraq : All Muslims .

Originally Posted by Fluke

This conflict is between Muslims and Muslims .

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by ENT

Lars Bangert Struwe, a researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Centre for Military Studies … says that “the conflict has gone from being political to be religious” … the current conflict will last several years.

The current conflict term is very misleading

I kind of remember that the Christians and Muslims have been at it since the Crusades. I may be wrong though.

This conflict is between Muslims and Muslims .
I.S. against Syria and Iraq : All Muslims .

So by your reckoning:
1. There are no people of other faiths in Iraq or Syria.
2. David Cameron, you and Piwanoi should chiilax because either (a) ISIS are against Syria and Iraq (and not the rest of the world) or (b) if ISIS ever get to the UK, they will simply wipe out all the Muslims and leave everybody else alone.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by ENT

Lars Bangert Struwe, a researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Centre for Military Studies … says that “the conflict has gone from being political to be religious” … the current conflict will last several years.

The current conflict term is very misleading

I kind of remember that the Christians and Muslims have been at it since the Crusades. I may be wrong though.

This conflict is between Muslims and Muslims .
I.S. against Syria and Iraq : All Muslims .

So by your reckoning:
1. There are no people of other faiths in Iraq or Syria.
2. David Cameron, you and Piwanoi should chiilax because either (a) ISIS are against Syria and Iraq (and not the rest of the world) or (b) if ISIS ever get to the UK, they will simply wipe out all the Muslims and leave everybody else alone.

I didnt say that there were no other Religions in Syria or Iraq , but they are both predominately Muslims Countries and therefore regarded as Islamic countries .
Have you not been following the news recently ?
If you have nt seen the news for the last few months, I will give you an update .
I.S. are currently fighting in Iraq and Syria to form an Islamic State .
Do you follow ? I.S are currently fighting Syria & Iraq .
The concern by Cameron is that if I.S. are victorious , then in the future, they will use the land as a base to lauch terror attacks against the West .
So, I.S. are currently fighting Iraq and Syria , but in future they may target the West

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by ENT

Lars Bangert Struwe, a researcher at the University of Copenhagen’s Centre for Military Studies … says that “the conflict has gone from being political to be religious” … the current conflict will last several years.

The current conflict term is very misleading

I kind of remember that the Christians and Muslims have been at it since the Crusades. I may be wrong though.

This conflict is between Muslims and Muslims .
I.S. against Syria and Iraq : All Muslims .

So by your reckoning:
1. There are no people of other faiths in Iraq or Syria.
2. David Cameron, you and Piwanoi should chiilax because either (a) ISIS are against Syria and Iraq (and not the rest of the world) or (b) if ISIS ever get to the UK, they will simply wipe out all the Muslims and leave everybody else alone.

I didnt say that there were no other Religions in Syria or Iraq , but they are both predominately Muslims Countries and therefore regarded as Islamic countries .

You said:

Originally Posted by Fluke

This conflict is between Muslims and Muslims .
I.S. against Syria and Iraq : All Muslims .