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    Post Deletions - reasons why would be nice

    (If this is in the incorrect forum, please move to the appropriate one)

    I had thought that the main difference between TV and here is the relative freedom of expression one has here vis-a-vis TV.

    What I have seen, though, is that on TV posts are deleted with the moderator giving reasons as to why they have been deleted . . . which makes one then continue with that 'caution' in mind.

    Here, posts are deleted without comment by an unknown moderator . . . leaving one thinking as to why the post was deleted . . . which kind of defeats the purpose of moderation as a guideline (No, not the same as posting rules)

    Heck, I'm not complaining as it has only happened to me twice in regard to poking fun at RickThai in his self-bigging shoot-em-up thread, but it would be good to get some moderation, not just silenced censorship.

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    Self-moderation is the name of the game here, if you can't do it, then you end up in jail forever.

    That's pretty much it.

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    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons
    I have found, with some of my posts over the years, that when a mod deletes an offensive post, he/she/it also deletes all posts relating to the original offensive post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons
    If you post something and it gets deleted then it is up to you to figure out the reason and change your ways.

    This ways always DD attitude on this, he would pretty much say if people can't figure this out then they are too stupid to be on here.

    There are grown adults who need an explanation of their fuck up when they fucked up, who knew?
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    ... I like to fantasise sometimes, and I lie very occasionally... my superior home, job, wealth, freedom, car, girl, retirement age, appearance, satisfaction with birth country etc etc... Over the past few years I have put together over 100 pages on notes on thaiophilia...

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    That was true for the first post, which wasn't offensive, by RickThai . . . and my respnse which may have been (though nothing like some of the vitriol one can see all over the place here).

    The second deletion left the quoted text intact.

    I'm not whining about it, don't get me wrong, as I don't believe my posts are akin to literary greatness . . . just wondering why TV seems 'moderated' and TD seems controlled

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    It just means that in that mods opinion, you have stepped over the line with that post.
    Reasons won't help as every mod will have a different opinion.
    Reasons would then lead to long lengthy debates about modding and build up a stupid mod cult like TV has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons
    I have found, with some of my posts over the years, that when a mod deletes an offensive post, he/she/it also deletes all posts relating to the original offensive post.

    But they nearly always leave the very first antagonistic post that caused somebody to make a post that needed deleting in the first place.

    Just like TV, you can be slightly gobby, obnoxious, pointless and rude, but the person who tells that person to go fuck himself for being an ignorant twat gets his posts deleted.

    Always found that strange myself. It's as if the rule is that you can be a dick on this forum but telling someone they are being a dick is against the rules. If they deleted the original anti social post then nobody would have the need to reply to it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour
    It's as if the rule is that you can be a dick on this forum but telling someone they are being a dick is against the rules.
    You're being a dick! See it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    It's as if the rule is that you can be a dick on this forum
    That's a relief, I though you'd read it as "must be".


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    yer all cnuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons
    If you post something and it gets deleted then it is up to you to figure out the reason and change your ways.

    This ways always DD attitude on this, he would pretty much say if people can't figure this out then they are too stupid to be on here.

    There are grown adults who need an explanation of their fuck up when they fucked up, who knew?
    I did post in a thread showing the number of people who were viewing the thread .I Copy and Pasted the
    *Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 10 (3 members and 7 guests)* box and this got deleted .
    I did post it for a valid reason and I cant work out why it would get deleted .
    Any ideas as to why it got deleted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    Any ideas as to why it got deleted?
    This is precisely what I am referring to . . . deletions with out explanations . . . moderation without guidance.

    Odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker
    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons
    If you post something and it gets deleted then it is up to you to figure out the reason and change your ways.

    This ways always DD attitude on this, he would pretty much say if people can't figure this out then they are too stupid to be on here.

    There are grown adults who need an explanation of their fuck up when they fucked up, who knew?
    I think that's spot on but some times it's beyond working out. When that happens you just have to shrug your shoulders and move on. All it takes is a mod who doesn't like you to fuck with you because he's bored.

    The more you think about it the more it will piss you off. Just put it down to somebody else being a twat and move on.

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    all our mods are women - you will never understand them

    and 1 week a month ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    Any ideas as to why it got deleted?
    This is precisely what I am referring to . . . deletions with out explanations . . . moderation without guidance.

    Odd

    It worked out well for evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    Any ideas as to why it got deleted?
    This is precisely what I am referring to . . . deletions with out explanations . . . moderation without guidance.

    Odd

    It worked out well for evolution.
    Necron is correct, as is Spin (Baldricks not far off either

    Ocker Rocker, I understand what you're saying, but that's how it is here. In the long run I think you'll appreciate it. To be honest, recently (last 6 months) I think the modding has got a lot better. Only the really really stupid and offensive shit I might utter after 8 pints and being pissed off is deleted whereas any other stupid shit gets left up so I can get slated for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
    Fair enough - but self-moderation doesn't explain deletion of posts without reasons
    I have found, with some of my posts over the years, that when a mod deletes an offensive post, he/she/it also deletes all posts relating to the original offensive post.

    But they nearly always leave the very first antagonistic post that caused somebody to make a post that needed deleting in the first place.

    Just like TV, you can be slightly gobby, obnoxious, pointless and rude, but the person who tells that person to go fuck himself for being an ignorant twat gets his posts deleted.

    Always found that strange myself. It's as if the rule is that you can be a dick on this forum but telling someone they are being a dick is against the rules. If they deleted the original anti social post then nobody would have the need to reply to it in the first place.
    Don't know about that, none of my posts telling you you're a dick have been deleted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post

    . Just put it down to somebody else being a twat and move on.
    Or put it down to the fact that YOU're a twat and move on.
    Last edited by Cujo; 17-07-2013 at 08:59 PM.

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    ^^^ I hope Neo queen of the smilies hasn't had a skinfull when he reads that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin
    If you post something and it gets deleted then it is up to you to figure out the reason and change your ways.
    That's a bit like saying it's okay to chastise your child but don't tell them why. I'm with OkerRocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spin
    If you post something and it gets deleted then it is up to you to figure out the reason and change your ways.
    That's a bit like saying it's okay to chastise your child but don't tell them why. I'm with OkerRocker.
    Beggars job creation.

    But the analogy above is odd in context. Children learn through consistency mostly. I reckon teakdoor posters would do well to follow suit.

    If a mod responds to whinging and whining and it will never stop. Everyone is special,no?

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    TV doesn't all-way say posts have been deleted for this reason or that, sometimes they just remove posts.
    Can say what you want and get deleted, but don't upset a sponsor, posts will be gone without trace, same here. You just don;t get banned for life here. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    You just don;t get banned for life here.
    I was banned for several lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    ^^^ I hope Neo queen of the smilies hasn't had a skinfull when he reads that.
    Is it necessary to slate another poster?
    You position yourself as a higher moral position poster, but there's just no getting away from the eggy persona is there, because that's the real you lurking just below the civilised facade.
    I don't know why people keep giving you the benefit of the doubt.
    (as poor Neo did)

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