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    Doctors inject a dying girl with HIV

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    An interesting video about doctors attempts to cure cancer by hijacking the HIV virus to attack cancer cells.

    Sorry, i tried to embed it so the video window would appear in the post, but it doesn't seem to want to.

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    If one of my kids was in the kind of shape that little girl was in I would be all for it. What the heck to you have to lose?

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    this might work, it played for me.



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    Last chance cure for syphilis used to be malaria I believe,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neep View Post
    Fire with Fire - Ross Kauffman - GE FOCUS FORWARD - YouTube

    An interesting video about doctors attempts to cure cancer by hijacking the HIV virus to attack cancer cells.

    Sorry, i tried to embed it so the video window would appear in the post, but it doesn't seem to want to.
    Interesting find. I was struck that the medic at the end was genuinely emotional.

    Must be a fantastic feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Interesting find. I was struck that the medic at the end was genuinely emotional. Must be a fantastic feeling.
    Same, thats why I took the time to capture the video, it did move me indeed. I normally cant and dont watch anything about dying kids. Too freaking sensitive and emotional I am.

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    Same for me. Every time I see the ending of Titanic my wife asks if I'm getting another cold again because of my sniffing and 'having something in my eyes'. I tell her it's psychosomatic because of the thought of icebergs and freezing water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Interesting find. I was struck that the medic at the end was genuinely emotional.
    I 2nd that.

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    Emily Whitehead: girl whose cancer was 'cured' by HIV
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    A seven-year-old girl has become the first child leukaemia patient to be successfully treated by doctors using a disabled form of the virus that causes Aids to reprogramme the immune system.


    Emily Whitehead

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    When chemotherapy failed to work for Emily Whitehead, diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia, she underwent a new experimental treatment at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

    It involved tricking her immune system into fighting the cancer cells - and, six months later, Emily remains in remission.

    She was one of a dozen people to have had the treatment. Three adults also had complete remissions, with two of them now clear of cancer for more than two years.

    Four other adults showed improvements but did not go into complete remission. One child improved but then relapsed, and the treatment did not work for two adults.

    The patients each had millions of T-cells removed. Using the disabled form of HIV, these were modified to attack cancer cells before being put back into their systems.

    The patients became very ill with feverish symptoms before recovering, and Emily almost died. She described the experience as "really, really scary" - but has recovered enough to go back to school.

    Researchers said the treatment, which costs about $20,000 for each patient, was in the early stages but they hope it could ultimately replace risky bone marrow transplants.

    Dr Stephan Grupp, Director of the Centre for Childhood Cancer Research at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, told CBS: "We've treated the first couple of patients and we've been blown away by the results. They've been very exciting.

    "We collect cells of the immune system from a patient, so we use the patient's own cells. We put in a new gene in those cells that makes the cells go after cancer cells and then we put those cells back in the patient."

    He added: "We don't know until we treat more patients and we have longer follow up, whether there's a potential for curing these patients.

    "Previous patients got sick, but it wasn't clear at the time whether it was due to the T-cells or an infection.

    "Now we know the main reason they were sick was the cells. But now we can intervene. She (Emily) taught us."

    Her father Tom Whitehead, from Philipsburg, Pennsylvania, told the Philadelphia Inquirer: "In the war against cancer there is no one in front of Emily."

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    superb.
    I welled up too then

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
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    Fire with Fire - Ross Kauffman - GE FOCUS FORWARD - YouTube

    An interesting video about doctors attempts to cure cancer by hijacking the HIV virus to attack cancer cells.

    Sorry, i tried to embed it so the video window would appear in the post, but it doesn't seem to want to.
    Interesting find. I was struck that the medic at the end was genuinely emotional.

    Must be a fantastic feeling.
    I agree. Quite difficult to remain detached when something so amazing happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    If one of my kids was in the kind of shape that little girl was in I would be all for it. What the heck to you have to lose?
    Introducing an HIV/AIDS microbe is a bit extreme, yes?
    One problem following the other.


    Yet, there are proven alternatives as it applies to cancer treatments of every sort.....most of which are suppressed by the profit-driven cancer research and treatment "industry" and their elder brother, the Medical-Pharamaceutical Mafia Industrial Complex.

    .....and to a lesser extent, the corporate processed food industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    If one of my kids was in the kind of shape that little girl was in I would be all for it. What the heck to you have to lose?
    Introducing an HIV/AIDS microbe is a bit extreme, yes?
    One problem following the other.


    Yet, irrelevant twaddle.....
    Did you watch the video?

    They took the HIV virus and redesigned it to hunt down and kill cancer cells. An amazing breakthrough in my opinion.

    Taking lemons and making lemonade to achieve something truly amazing.
    There was a risk it wouldn't work, but the girl was going to die whether or not they did anything. A justified risk that paid off.

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    wow awesome stuff, I thought that animal killing vid was a comedy but this actually brought a lump to my throat.

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    You've all seen "I Am Legend", right?


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    'Engineer the virus, reprogram it'. Wasn't there a long-lifed theory that HIV was engineered in the first place? Why can't they modify T-Cells to cure HIV, but an unrelated disease only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You've all seen "I Am Legend", right?

    You're asking in jest, but there are no diseases like in this movie, or 28 Days Later, or The Stand, that can wipe out 99,99% of all humans. Genetic variety amongst people is so large, that always a large percentage are immune, or survive the disease because the symptoms are milder. A very contagious and deadly virus like Ebola can't spread because it immobilizes its victims too quickly, they just don't have time to infect others. HIV on the other hand with its huge incubation period that would allow to infect many people before detection is little contagious. You would need a virus which is more contagious than any in history, and at the same time causing symptoms and death with a substantial time lap, and then be 100% deadly. That sort of thing can't evolve because animals including us still exist, and can't be engineered because there is no key to the immune system of all people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall
    That sort of thing can't evolve because animals including us still exist, and can't be engineered because there is no key to the immune system of all people.
    yes it can evolve and yes it can be engineered we human just have not got there yet,
    and yes there is a key to all of us but technology has not allowed us to do it yet,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
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    If one of my kids was in the kind of shape that little girl was in I would be all for it. What the heck to you have to lose?
    Introducing an HIV/AIDS microbe is a bit extreme, yes?
    One problem following the other.


    Yet, there are proven alternatives as it applies to cancer treatments of every sort.....most of which are suppressed by the profit-driven cancer research and treatment "industry" and their elder brother, the Medical-Pharamaceutical Mafia Industrial Complex.

    .....and to a lesser extent, the corporate processed food industry.
    Injecting HIV would be rather extreme if that's what they did...... but they didn't.

    What they did was to take a sequence of DNA that would program these cells to recognize a protein on the surface of the cancer cells and thus instruct the immune system to attack these cells.

    They then added this gene to a virus from the same family as HIV, to call this virus HIV is pushing the bounds of reality on the basis that its a highly modified virus designed infect a call, insert its RNA into the cells DNA and stop at this point. I.E the virus does not continue, hijacking the cell to manufacture virus components that then self assemble into virus particles that burst out of the cell killing it.

    The cells are taken out of the patient, infected in the lab, sanitised, tested and then injected back into the patient. The virus does not leave the lab, only the DNA they insert into the cells does.

    This kind of gene therapy have been in use for quite some time and this is just the latest in a long line of trials which are all still at the 'is this treatment safe to use on humans stage' prior to doing larger scale studies to investigate the effectiveness of the treatment.
    The problem is that these treatments can cause cytokine storms, which are a leading cause of death for otherwise young, fit and healthy victims of conditions like avian flu and sars.... then there is that rather infamous drug trial that put six people in intensive care and killed a couple of them..... and its also what happenes to a quite a few people who join these cancer trials and its why these treatments are still many many years away from being mainstream.

    But then I guess it could all just be a conspiracy... after all the drug companies are very good at repressing inconvenient treatments.... which is why that cure for ulcers never got off the ground and everyones still having t just make do with zantax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
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    You've all seen "I Am Legend", right?

    You're asking in jest, but there are no diseases like in this movie
    There might be on Uranus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz

    Injecting HIV would be rather extreme if that's what they did...... but they didn't.
    there ya go , upsetting a good story with facts ............................

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