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|14-03-2013, 07:18 PM||#7 (permalink)|
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Khmer Rouge leader Ieng Sary dies
Former Khmer Rouge leader Ieng Sary, on trial for genocide and war crimes, died in hospital on Thursday at the age of 87, cheating Cambodia and the UN-backed court out of justice for the rule of the Pol Pot regime.
Brothers in arms and brothers-in-law, top Khmer Rouge leaders Ieng Sary (left) and Pol Pot at the top of their powers as foreign minister and dictator respectively in Cambodia, and Ieng Sary in the dock at the tribunal last year. (File photos)
Ieng Sary - who has been on trial for a raft of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity charges - died while still under the custody of the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia.
His death came less than a year after his wife and fellow defendant, Ieng Thirith, was declared unfit to stand trial due to dementia. Of the trialís four initial defendants, only one has avoided chronic health problems and repeated hospitalisation.
Saryís lawyer, Michael Karnavas, told the Phnom Penh Post Ieng Sary passed away at approximately 8:55 am.
"We can confirm that Ieng Sary died this morning after being hospitalised since March 4," the court's spokesman Lars Olsen said. The oldest of three former leaders on trial, he was the minister of foreign affairs in Pol Pot's regime.
Ieng Sary co-founded the brutal Khmer Rouge movement in the 1970s, with fellow students who earned royal scholarships to study in France.
He served as its public face abroad as "foreign minister" of the regime of his brother-in-law Pol Pot, which lasted from April 1975 to December 1979. The men were married to sisters.
In October 1975, Ieng Sary embarked on a tour to justify Khmer Rouge "liberation" of the country, including a press conference at the old government-owned Erawan Hotel.
He proclaimed to regrettably little public notice that the regime considered that "one million Cambodians is enough" to move the country forward. At the time, Cambodia's post-war population was estimated to be seven million.
The communist regime claimed it was building a pure socialist society by evicting people from cities to work in labour camps in the countryside. Its radical policies killed or led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands from brutality, executions, starvation, disease and overwork.
As a member of the Khmer Rouge's central and standing committee, Ieng Sary "repeatedly and publicly encouraged, and also facilitated, arrests and executions within his Foreign Ministry and throughout Cambodia," Steve Heder said in his co-authored book Seven Candidates for Prosecution: Accountability for the Crimes of the Khmer Rouge. Heder is a Cambodia scholar who later worked with the UN-backed tribunal.
Known by his revolutionary alias as "Comrade Van," Ieng Sary was a recipient of many internal Khmer Rouge documents detailing torture and mass execution of suspected internal enemies, according to the Documentation Centre of Cambodia.
"We are continuing to wipe out remaining (internal enemies) gradually, no matter if they are opposed to our revolution overtly or covertly," read a cable sent to Ieng Sary in 1978. It was reprinted in an issue of the centre's magazine in 2000, apparently proving he had full knowledge of bloody purges.
Ieng Sary's death came during the course of his trial with two other former Khmer Rouge leaders by the joint Cambodian-international tribunal.
Concerns that the court's octogenarian defendants will not live to see a verdict rendered have plagued it from the start.
At least 1.7 million people were killed or perished between 1975 and 1979 under Pol Pot, Ieng Sary and their small group of Marxists known as Angka (The Organisation).
But establishing a tribunal took decades and since the current case against the regime's top living leaders began in late 2011, it has moved in fits and starts.
Ieng Sary's death comes at a particularly troubling moment for the hybrid court, which is facing severe budget woes, and increasing allegations of interference and mismanagement.
On March 4, the same day Sary was hospitalised for the last time, a number of national staffers went on strike - indefinitely stalling proceedings - over months of unpaid wages.
Khmer Rouge icon Ieng Sary dead | Bangkok Post: news
|14-03-2013, 07:45 PM||#9 (permalink)|
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|14-03-2013, 10:51 PM||#10 (permalink)|
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First things first:Cambodia was not a Communist state under Pol Pot but a dictatorship with no other doctrine than a half -baked rehash of Rousseauism translated into reality through Robespierre. Terror was allegedly the means by which Pot would achieve his frazzled aims but, typically, terror itself became the doctrine. When there is a vacuum formed by the absence of any substantive doctrine the means by which it was achieved inevitably becomes the core.
This occurs time and again in coon states but has always had a resonance with Asians when they decapitate erstwhile Kings etc.
The real scandal of the Pol Pot era was the inertia of the West when it became apparent Pot's barbarity had assumed biblical proportions. The USA, licking its wounds after its sorry arse was kicked soundly by the VC, restored hubris by sucking Chinese cock. In order that this newly established union shouldn't be prejudiced the Security Council of the UN repeatedly condemned the VC for their incursions into Cambodia which eventually dislodged Pot from any central authority. Thus, we were treated to the spectacle of the forces of liberal democracies supporting one of the worst perpetrators of human atrocities since the Nazis and Japs, in which Thailand, never a state to risk it's bowl of rice, was an ever willing accomplice.
One of the reasons why I have a healthy disrespect for any government, the human condition and Asians whose savagery is never far from the surface.
That Hun Sen is now PM of Cambodia is proof that my contempt is well merited. His henchmen lived to ripe old ages and there was no justice. Still, justice is not an Asian concept so why bother?
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The real guilty parties are off Scot free...and continue to this day with similar activities.
Because we don't comprehend much - only what has been taught to us.
|21-03-2013, 09:52 PM||#12 (permalink)|
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Thousand attend Ieng Sary's cremation
21 Mar 2013
MALAI, Cambodia - About 1,000 mourners massed Thursday for the cremation of Ieng Sary, a co-founder of Cambodia's Khmer Rouge, highlighting the stark divide between supporters and victims of the brutal communist regime.
Ieng Vuth, a son of former Khmer Rouge foreign minister Ieng Sary, prays at his father's coffin during the cremation ceremony in the former stronghold of Malai near the Cambodian-Thai border on Thursday.
The former Khmer Rouge foreign minister, 87, died last week while on trial for war crimes and genocide, cheating Cambodians of a verdict over his role in the regime's 1975-1979 reign of terror.
Relatives and former Khmer Rouge fighters attended the cremation outside his home in Malai, a one-time regime stronghold near the Thai border.
The pyre was lit by Y Chhean, a provincial governor and former bodyguard of the late Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot. As smoke came out of the crematory, fireworks lit the sky.
Ieng Sary's tearful widow Ieng Thirith, the regime's former social affairs minister, was among the mourners but left before the actual cremation.
Initially a co-defendant alongside her husband, she was freed in September after being deemed unfit for trial due to dementia.
Many of the mourners wore black ribbons pinned to their chests.
"He is a hero for the people of Malai," said former Khmer Rouge cadre Long Run, 78, describing the regime co-founder as a "patriot" who defended the country from Vietnamese invaders.
"I was shocked when I heard he was dead. We're sorry that we lost him now,'' he told AFP.
Former social affairs minister Ieng Thirith, centre, Ieng Sary's wife, cries during the cremation ceremony of her husband.
The death of Ieng Sary, one of the regime's few public faces, intensified fears the remaining two elderly co-defendants may also die before verdicts can be reached in their trial, which began in June 2011.
"Justice for the victims is fading little by little," said Bou Meng, 72, one of a handful of people to survive incarceration at the Khmer Rouge's Tuol Sleng prison in Phnom Penh.
He reacted angrily to the mourning for Ieng Sary in his powerbase in the remote northwestern border area, where he held out with fellow Khmer Rouge members after the regime fell from power until his defection in 1996.
"Regarding him as a hero is totally wrong," Bou Meng said in Phnom Penh. "He is a killer."
At a funeral ceremony last Friday some mourners wept, according to witnesses, even though Ieng Sary as foreign minister was accused of overseeing purges and the murder of intellectuals.
"Although people from outside this area accused him of genocide, he did good things for the poor people here," said former regime cadre Nhem Preuong, 58.
The one-time radical student was the oldest of three former leaders on trial, along with "Brother Number Two" Nuon Chea, 86, and former head of state Khieu Samphan, 81.
All denied charges including war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity.
Led by "Brother Number One" Pol Pot, who died in 1998, the Khmer Rouge killed an estimated two million Cambodians through starvation, overwork or execution in a bid to create an agrarian utopia.
So far the UN-backed court - which has been dogged by allegations of political meddling and frequent funding problems - has achieved just one conviction, sentencing a former Khmer Rouge prison chief to life in jail.
"The court must speed up the trial," said Bou Meng. "I deserve some kind of justice while I'm still alive."
"Keeping quiet while monks and other peaceful protesters are murdered and jailed is not evidence of constructive engagement." - Arvind Ganesan, Human Rights Watch.
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