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Old 25-02-2013, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Retire to somewhere else

Just curious as to where current expats would move to if Thailand was too pricey to keep the current lifestyle they are used to. Or would you stay in Thailand at a lower level of living? I have many years before I can retire, but at one point Thailand was looking like a cheaper place than my current home country, now, not so sure, when factoring in medical etc.

This was brought on by something i read saying the pound is now about 45baht, down from 60baht a few years ago. I was also talking to a few Aussies on my trip to Thailand 2 years ago, who were bitching about how much prices had increased from 2009, these guys have been coming to Thailand since about 2000, but where now thinking of new places to holiday. For what its worth, they usually did 3, 2-3 week trips to Phuket every year. Maybe it is just Phuket that has seen these giant price increases, I dont know.

So where would your other country be, that would allow you to keep the same cost of living/lifestyle you are used to now?
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Panama is liberal and welcoming. They ask only a $500usd income to get a permavisa. About the same climate as Thailand. Easy language, good food.
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I'll stick with Thailand. Better the devil you know..................
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Malaysia... Cambodia in a few years time.

A South/Central American country sounds interesting, but being a Limey they're a little off our radar.
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Take the Philippines off your list - doubt you'd like it.
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I forgot about you lot. Very much like Thailand really.
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Take the Philippines off your list - doubt you'd like it.
Is that due to price? I have heard both good and bad things, from Phillipinos i have worked with here in Canada. This isnt really so much a thread about where I would retire to, I still have 20-25 years to go, unless I win a lottery, but then who cares about prices. I have heard Ecuador has pretty nice weather, reasonable prices, just dont know much about what visa would be required, and as I said, it will all have changed by the time I am ready to pack it in
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Greece is dirt cheap for housing, but shops are expensive.
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Take the Philippines off your list - doubt you'd like it.
I forgot about you lot. Very much like Thailand really.
Immigration crap much easier. Food much worse. Women about the same, but the ones here speak English - which isn't necessarily a plus. Better beaches here. Level of stupidity and corruption about the same. Dollar has decreased in value 20% over the last decade. But, very, very few tourists or expats here - and hope it stays that way. Almost forgot, rampant Catholicism.
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I know alot of Greeks here, who go back to visit the old country every year, according to them, since Greece went to the Euro, its quite a bit more pricey than it was. I was there 20 years ago, back when it was the drachma, and i found it very cheap. Have also heard alot of good stuff about Turkey, and have a brother in law who is from there.
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For what its worth, they usually did 3, 2-3 week trips to Phuket every year. Maybe it is just Phuket that has seen these giant price increases, I dont know.

So where would your other country be, that would allow you to keep the same cost of living/lifestyle you are used to now?

Actually the opinions of tourists that come to Phuket or similar places for 2-3 weeks a year are worth fuk all. They know nothing about Thailand except the usual tourist shit. Phuket ain't Thailand but simply a muppet factory for mass tourism same as Patters.

Get upcountry and you will find that the cost of living is still very reasonable especially if you have a few brains to stay away from the tourist areas.

But to answer your question for me its Bali and Malaysia but the best of the lot is to rotate through all 3 countries. Keeps life fresh and interesting.
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any latin-American country would be good, but they are becoming more expensive esp Brasil and Argentina; Peru, Bolivia? Ecuador is good
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Laos - though again becoming more expensive
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I'd pass on Laos. It's like Thailand but with virtually nothing for western people and they're more stupid than Thais.
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I know alot of Greeks here, who go back to visit the old country every year, according to them, since Greece went to the Euro, its quite a bit more pricey than it was. I was there 20 years ago, back when it was the drachma, and i found it very cheap. Have also heard alot of good stuff about Turkey, and have a brother in law who is from there.
A friend and former TD poster moved there last year. He reckons it's really nice.
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Don't know - its changed alot especially in Vientiane - starting to build more condos and shopping malls - alot of Chinese investment here at the moment
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Everywhere is more expensive.. in 25 years..? Forget about it.
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Costs all depend on the exchange rate .
If the Pound rises, everything will be cheap , if the Pound falls, everything will be expensive .
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Food much worse.
Now that you mention it, I have never seen a Filipino restaurant in Australia.
Thai ones everywhere though.
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^You see them in the US sometimes, usually in conjunction with a Filipino store, but they generally only have a customer base from the local Filipino community who have a desire for fried pig fat and the like.
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If Thailand were out of the picture, I'd remain in Asia.

Cambodia
Vietnam [though, I know it's becoming expensive]
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Economics and cost of living would surely be factor as to choice of locale.
But, if said place is your premier spot and preference - you can manage and figure it out to make it work regardless.
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But to answer your question for me its Bali and Malaysia but the best of the lot is to rotate through all 3 countries. Keeps life fresh and interesting.
This is my thinking as well, including Loas, Cambodia & perhaps Burma in the future. Maybe one day I'll find somewhere that I think I'll like to stay, or be forced to for health reasons.
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It'd take a hell of a lot for some of you expats to move from SE Asia.. The primary pull factor being easy, tight promiscuous pussy
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