" Lost in Care", the records of the Waterhouse enquiry, North Wales.
Please read.
(Have a look at it here)
Or here;
Lost in care : Department of Health - Publications
" Lost in Care", the records of the Waterhouse enquiry, North Wales.
Please read.
(Have a look at it here)
Or here;
Lost in care : Department of Health - Publications
BBC crisis: Lord McAlpine seeks larger ITV damages
Lord McAlpine said he would continue to seek legal settlements over incorrect allegations
Lord McAlpine will seek a larger payout from ITV than the £185,000 he received over his libel claim against the BBC, his lawyers have confirmed.
They contacted ITV after presenter Phillip Schofield handed the prime minister a list of alleged abusers live on the This Morning show on 8 November.
ITV said disciplinary action had been taken following the incident.
The BBC settled with Lord McAlpine over a Newsnight report that led to him being wrongly accused of child abuse.
The damages, agreed 13 days after the broadcast, totalled £185,000 plus costs.
Broadcasting watchdog Ofcom has launched an investigation into the incident on ITV1's This Morning.
An ITV spokesman said: "We have received correspondence from Lord McAlpine's representatives and we will be responding in due course."
The BBC and ITV are the first of a number of organisations and individuals to face legal action after Lord McAlpine was wrongly linked to child abuse. These include a large number of Twitter users who made false claims.
The Newsnight broadcast on 2 November was about historical allegations of child abuse at care homes in north Wales.
Former Tory party treasurer Lord McAlpine was not named in the broadcast but he was incorrectly linked to the claims on the internet.
An inquiry by BBC Scotland director Ken MacQuarrie concluded that Newsnight had failed to complete "basic journalistic checks".
Lord McAlpine said after settling his claim with the BBC: "I have been conscious that any settlement will be paid by the licence fee-payers, and have taken that into account in reaching agreement with the BBC.
"We will now be continuing to seek settlements from other organisations that have published defamatory remarks and individuals who have used Twitter to defame me."
The Newsnight broadcast led to the resignation of BBC director general George Entwistle, who has been replaced by acting director general Tim Davie. The BBC has previously apologised for the broadcast
Oi McAlpine giving your loot to charity then ?? don,t fooking think so eh wanker ,
any relatives that you may know of like to play fiddleledicks with young people ??
Twat
It seems that the Lord Alistair McAlpine has gone on a feeding frenzy and is now in overkill mode. I wonder how far he's going to get with that?
I get the feeling that it's not going to be as easy for him as he and his lawyers think.
He's certainly not going to make any friends out of the deal except for those who will duck under this smokescreen he's created around the North Wales paedophile enquiry.
Freemasons, eh.
Lord Alistair McAlpine doth protest too much, methinks, for 'twer thus that that Messham spake.
Mr Messham’s testimony at the original Waterhouse Tribunal held in 1997:Steve Messham clearly states that his abuser is named McAlpine and is now dead.
- Gerard Elias QC: “Does the name McAlpine mean anything to you.”
- Steven Messham: “Yes, sir.”
- Elias: “In what context?”
- Messham: “I was also abused by him sexually.”
- Sir Ronald Waterhouse: “Is the person you referred to alive or dead?”
- Messham: “I believe he is dead.”
Lord Alistair McAlpine is not dead.
So why did the press, especially BBC, run the false scent of Lord Alistair McAlpine across the track leading to the deceased McAlpine of North Wales?
Sensational claims make money for the media, and Lord Alistair McAlpine gained 185,000 pounds sterling share of BBC's profits, by accusing them of slander.
Flushed with his easy gain from the BBC, Lord Alistair McAlpine now wants half a million pounds from ITV and further undisclosed amounts of money from others as penalty for his besmirchment by them.
Nonetheless, a wealthy, local, McAlpine was suggested by police as the man positively identified by Mr. Steve Messham during the Waterhouse tribunal hearing.
The only male McAlpine in N.Wales at that time who owned a number of collectable chauffeur driven cars, as attested, and who had access to large houses in Wrexham N. Wales and another in neighbouring Cheshire was Sir Alfred James McAlpine (deceased 1991).
The McAlpine houses in Cheshire in fact were the residences of Sir Alfred James (Jimmy) McAlpine's son, Sir Robert James McAlpine, who at the time of the enquiry (1994) was High Sherrif of Cheshire.
As High Sherrif of Cheshire, Sir Robert James McAlpine had a role in the Cheshire police during the beginning of the Bryn Estyn enquiry.
If the reported abuses by a McAlpine against the Bryn Estyn boys ocurred in large McAlpine houses near Chester in Cheshire, they may well be those of Sir Robert James McAlpine of Tilston Lodge Tilston, Tarporley, Cheshire who's large homes there may have been the venue for the reported abuses.
Sir Robert James McAlpine was resident there until 2003.
There is absolutely no indication, so far, that either Lord Alistair McAlpine nor his homes were involved in the Bryn Estyn abuses, but there is a very strong indication that either Sir Alfred James (Jimmy) McAlpine's large home and 'flash" chauffeur driven cars in Wrexham were, and large homes available to the abusers were in Cheshire.
To precisely identify the alleged abusers at Bryn Estyn, would it not be logical to pursue the Chester, Cheshire and Wrexham McAlpine connection as first indicated by N. Wales police, rather than try to peer through the smoke and mirrors of the Lord Alistair McAlpine of West Green Vs BBc, ITV, the whole world et al saga?
Which saga is of course simply a distraction from the real issue of inquiring into paedophilia in high places.
Last edited by ENT; 21-11-2012 at 08:32 AM.
Hell, this guy should lead by example and make a huge donation to Children in Need.
His latest efforts at prosecuting any one slandering him has not really started to get the money rolling into the Children in Need trust, but it's sure getting him a lot of attention.
Lord McAlpine wants police to nail Twitter gossips over wrongful paedophile allegations
A BRITISH peer is to to ask police to investigate Twitter users who made "malicious communications" against him. Lord McAlpine plans to make a formal complaint today against potentially thousands who falsely named him as a paedophile – but who have failed to "repent" for their actions.
Up to 10,000 Twitter users are thought to have tweeted about the former Tory Party treasurer’s alleged – but subsequently disproved –involvement in child abuse.
It is unclear how many have now apologised and agreed to pay a nominal sum as requested to Children in Need, but two days ago just 40 had done so.
The police complaint could lead to a mass prosecution, leading to fines, or even imprisonment for up to six months, and criminal records for the large numbers who wrote about the peer online.
Read more;
Lord McAlpine wants police to nail Twitter gossips over wrongful paedophile allegations | News.com.au
ENT, if you wish to pursue this as a project one must not ignore Sir Peter Morrison who goes to the heart of things. His pederasty was a matter of public record as indeed was his position in the milieu that was old Tory world.
I rather think the McAlpine who may have lured the boys into sodomy and other unspeakable acts was a cousin to Alistair McAlpine who now claims an ignorance of any matter that may have arisen in Wrexham or its environs.
Well, I suppose with the actual buggerers now dead and well and truly turned into the worm ridden mulch their filthy carcasses have become I suppose he feels somewhat freer now to play the disingenuous card that he couldn't when Scallawag besmirched his alleged reputation all those years ago.
Frankly, I'm amazed that folk have already thrown in the towel and grovelled before this ole Tory Tusker. The question still remains, how much did Alistair McAlpine through his political connections facilitate Sir Peter Morrison's career of depravity spent sodomizing juvenile boys?
It sure beats stamp collecting or crown green bowls
Did you ever expect that you'd spend your retirement counselling other retirees to pursue such backdoor investigations in their winter years?
Perhaps we can put it on your tombstone !
'Tempus fugit.
I wish i'd spent more time online opining on deviancy'
Mmmmm, I rather think it resolves to poor television and the absence of any meaningful culture in this stupid country.
If I had my way I would be tip tapping my way into Flamenco tarantellas, quaffing Carlos 111 Solera brandy and easing my dinghy into a bahia somewhere off the Galician coatline or trying to surf in Tarifa. Problem is, I took a mal paso somewhere along the line and hitched to an esposa requiring presence here in this Godforsaken madhouse.
Things may change when I eventually move to Pattaya and join the Varuna although I don't think the locals will be my cup of tea. Still, that's the joy of dinghy sailing, you don't need to rely on anyone else to enjoy oneself.
TheGent; This particular case has been drawing my attention for several reasons as I have friends and family involved as caregivers, police, the courts, church, district councillors, counsellors, hospital staff, freemasons and the media in that part of Wales. I know the area quite well, having lived and visited there frequently.
It's an interesting and horribly complex and painful saga where the freemasons have most definitely closed ranks in protecting many of the accused.
This case is not going to get brushed under the carpet nor smokescreened out of existence. It's going to snowball and I don't think anybody is prepared to know how high up the monkey tree this thing goes.
Many involved in this case have since died but many are still alive and living in fear of the very powerful men behind the coverups.
Scallywag did a good job of winkling some of this out and it's a pity it shut down, but investigative journalism continues, and the attack on tweeters, web sites etc is in fact an attack on unofficial people's journalism and reportage.
The link below is worth reading to give you an idea of the extent that alternative investigation has got interested in the issue. You may know of Rebecca already, a damned good bunch of people, well worth supporting.
Who Fixed The Tribunal - Rebecca Television
Cheers.
Yea, it is a challenge but who knows, perhaps one of those who had first hand knowledge of the corruption that went on will seek expiation on his death bed - many are old grunters closer to their God and might see the light.
I have already alluded to the freemasons in the St.James' Lodge which combined the decision makers of the Met police, civil servants and the judiciary during the late 70s and early 80s, all allegedly meant to act independently of each other but of course they were as hugger mugger as the arse bashers on Hampstead Heath.
McAlpine and his Tory Establishment were reliant on this hegemony when their wastrel maverick Peter Morrison was careening around the lavatories of central London and the provinces in search of his fix of fresh juvenile boy meat.
The nexus of this disgusting web of corruption was fixed fair and square in Whitehall and Westminster but extended wherever their exponents might range - the chap in Berlin for the FCO is a case in point and his contact list for paedophile victims spread throughout Britain.
The DPP at the relevant time was Sir Thomas Heatherington, a Catholic and not believed to have been a freemason, but his second in command, Ken Dowling, a dour mysoginist and dysfuntional human being, most certainly was and maintained the links with the Yard that ensured Morrison was never prosecuted for his depraved lechery.
All boys together but I should imagine dear old Alistair now believes it all took place in another country and not simply the past.
So Alistair, did you you clean old Morrison's bollocks off before he simpered his way back to Maggie for their cosy little tete - a -tetes? ( metaphorically of course, har har).
Lord McAlpine in £125,000 settlement over ITV broadcast
Lord McAlpine received £185,000 in damages from the BBC earlier this month
Conservative peer Lord McAlpine has reached a £125,000 settlement with ITV and Phillip Schofield.
It is in relation to a This Morning programme broadcast in November during which the presenter handed the prime minister a list of names of alleged abusers he had found on the internet.
This followed a Newsnight investigation which led to the peer being wrongly accused of child abuse.
Broadcast regulator Ofcom has launched an investigation into the incident.
Earlier this month, the BBC agreed to pay the Tory peer £185,000 in libel damages following the Newsnight investigation into child abuse in North Wales.
Lord McAlpine's name was not broadcast by the BBC, but he was wrongly identified on the internet.
'Pragmatic'
He said the damage of the Newsnight report "can't be repaired" and he now has to live with the legacy of suspicion. Newsnight carried a full, on-air apology for the broadcast a week later.
His solicitor, Andrew Reid, told the BBC his client was "pleased" with the size of the ITV settlement, which he described as "pragmatic".
"We accepted the legal argument that the Newsnight programme had effectively set the pot - it was already boiling at that point.
"The Schofield stunt added fuel to the fire that was already there and we had to take that into account," he said.
Mr Reid confirmed that legal action will now be taken against other parties, such as newspapers and high-profile users of the social-networking site Twitter.
Among them is Sally Bercow, wife of the speaker of the House of Commons John Bercow, whose legal team has been in touch with Mr Reid.
Lord McAlpine has asked those who linked him to child abuse allegations on Twitter and other social networks to apologise formally and pay a "sensible and modest amount", which he plans to donate to BBC Children in Need.
Mr Reid added that they had spoken to "senior officers" at Scotland Yard to discuss criminal behaviour on Twitter.
"There are a hard core of people who are re-tweeting and who are basically acting maliciously. This is an offence."
He added, however, that it was up to the police to decide whether to investigate further.
It looks like Alistair McAlpine is having to pull his neck in as the "pragmatic" settlement reached with ITV fell far short of his attempt to wrangle half a million quid out of them.
What will be interesting in this saga of protestations by Alistair is the next round of attempts at prosecution. He's not going to have an easy time of it all.
It was completely risible that his brother said that Alistair "has never told a lie".
Ye gods!
He must be the only human known in all of existence with such exemplar character, a veritable pure being, possibly even an immaculate conception.
Tell us another one.
Especially since Lord Alistair McAlpine advised in his book on Machiavelli;
" Spread false defeat to gain public sympathy; or false accusation and then arrange for it to be exposed as such – so the accuser will forever be treated with suspicion."
During the Waterhouse Tribunal all reference to possible involvement of freemasons and their identities was declared inadmissible to the proceedings, but it has since been revealed that several of the police and the QC for the crown were all freemasons, effectively freemasons investigating freemasons.
A blatant cover up that is now in the process of disintegration as several threads of investigation proceed to expose who's who in the sorry saga.
I've said before and I repeat; this evil and corrupt bunch of paedophiles and bullies reach all the way to the top of British establishment, and heads will finally roll, as long as determined seekers of wisdom and truth continue their diligence.
Anyway - let's out this fucker again. Lying bastard for a start. In recent developments, artist Graham Ovenden has been accused of being a Pedo. Hardly surprising in that all of his art is very young girls in erotic poses and a lot of photos to boot - seriously, what the fuck is the establishment thinking when they never thought to question this bastard?
Anyway - guess who was a collector of his work?
From the Standard
"The Evening Standard, 23rd May 2003
LONDON BOOKSELLER Bloomsbury Book Auctions is today selling off Lord McAlpine’s former collection of photographs entitled A (Very) Private Collection: Fashion and Eroticism Photographs 1970-1990. For some reason the auctioneers coyly refer to “an historic collection… put together in London… by a well-known but anonymous collector”. Could their coyness have anything to do with the fact that the 344 pictures include 10 snaps of very young girls in very suggestive poses by Graham Ovenden?
“We were aware of the possible intentions in the context of this field but came to the decision that Graham Ovenden’s photos were in no way offensive,” says organiser John Cumming.
My source tells me the “well known but anonymous collector” is former Conservative Party Treasurer Lord McAlpine, who in 1996 gave his photographic collection to an Australian gallery which in turn sold them on to Bloomsbury Book Auctions.
Oii McAlpine - you are a dirty pedo and need stringing up.
and today,
Sally Bercow ordered to pay £15,000 damages for sending libellous tweet which wrongly accused innocent Lord McAlpine in child sex scandal
Mrs Bercow had denied her tweet in November was defamatory
She posted it following a BBC Newsnight documentary last year
She accepted an offer to settle out of court after a judge ruled against her
Today, her lawyers apologised on her behalf before paying damages
First tweet must be an apology to the peer if she reactivates her account
By STEVE NOLAN
PUBLISHED: 11:37 GMT, 22 October 2013 | UPDATED: 11:52 GMT, 22 October 2013
Speaker's wife Sally Bercow has agreed to pay Lord McAlpine £15,000 in damages after she posted a libellous tweet about the peer.
Mrs Bercow was not at the brief High Court hearing today, but her lawyer apologised on her behalf for her 'irresponsible use of Twitter' before agreeing to pay him damages and his costs.
Her infamous post appeared after a Newsnight report last November wrongly implicated the former Conservative Party treasurer in allegations of sex abuse at the Bryn Estyn children's home in the 1970s and 1980s.
Must admit I'm surprised this thread still exists.
Comedian Alan Davies says sorry for retweeting Twitter slur about Lord McAlpine
Agreed to pay £15,000 damages, which will be donated to the Chelsea Pensioners at Lord McAlpine’s request.
Comedian withdraws the allegation unreservedly, and apologises sincerely to Lord McAlpin.
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 00:42 GMT, 25 October 2013 | UPDATED: 00:43 GMT, 25 October 2013
Read more: Comedian Alan Davies says sorry for retweeting Twitter slur about Lord McAlpine | Mail Online
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didnt thegent also falsely accuse mcalpine?
Hey, it was all for charity.
^ Yes, 'Children in Need' especially
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