Thread: Hua Hin Dog Rescue Center needs help

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Originally Posted by friscofrankie

^ Could probably make it a tourist activity like trekking. Call it "Urban Safari" or something.

Good idea, and change the poison darts for an RPG launcher*

I was in Phnom Penh last year and had a go on the AK47 and the M16. I didn't fancy the RPG. Actually I didn't have the cahunas. The AK47 was 1968 vintage and I don't know how old the RPG was. I was scared it would blow up in my face and take my head off my shoulders.

*Apologies to CMN and any other dog lovers.

^By the HH forum I presume you're referring to a section on ThaiVisa. I do recall a thread on there where you refused an offer of debate on your activities, which included dumping neutered soi dogs at various locations around town.

No, I mean the real HH forum (TV's HH forum is crap), where the original post was lifted from. I have never refused any debate. Neutered soi dogs being dumped where? I honestly have no idea what you're on about.


Edit - I have never dumped soi dogs anywhere - although it may come to asking temples to take them & we care for them in temples - but that certainly hasn't been done & I hope it won't.
We have taken dogs in, cured them, neutered them & vaccinated them & released them back to their previous territory, but that is one of our policies as it is with most dog orgs in Thailand (SCAD, Samuidog etc).

^Apologies for mixing the forums.

You're contradicting yourself although you may not realise it. Dumping and releasing back into their own territories !!. Same same.

November Rain

As for the rest of your claims, why don't you come & see my "hobby" for yourself? You're in the area, I'd be happy to show you around. After that, you can slag it off to your heart's content. Funnily, though, the only people who are as vehemently against me as you are, are the ones who never do take up my offer to see the project. Many HH forum members (who have an interest one way or the other) have visited the center.
I understand those that are against the dogs in general; fair enough. They see things differently to me. But I'm intrigued as to why someone who has never met me, has never seen HHDRC's work and has reported what I have said on the other forum rather inaccurately is having a pop at me personally...


As for other worthy causes in HH area, as some members have mentioned: there are numerous poor schools, there are the Karen Villagers (you can donate through Hua Hin Adventure Tours), there is Mercy House Orphanage in Pranburi & Cheshire Home in Cha-am, to mention just a few. All would welcome any & all support they can get. On the Eastern forum is a thread about Mercy Mission - another very deserving cause. I hope that all of those (including Dougal) who would not give to dogs (perfectly fair!) support one of these or another worthy causes in Thailand, wholeheartedly.

Great job you are doing there. It is a worthwhile cause IMO. Thanks for those other names of charities too.

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Originally Posted by Begbie

^Apologies for mixing the forums.

You're contradicting yourself although you may not realise it. Dumping and releasing back into their own territories !!. Same same.

Dumping sounds like "wholesale" whereas we release the odd few. Most we can't, although I'll happily admit, I wish we could. The reasons we can't are usually because they have been with us under treatment for too long & have lost their territory, or they came in as pups, so have no territory. Most orgs in Thailand do not keep dogs. They release them straight away. We are in the minority.

I've just been thru the TV HH forum from now till before I joined (Aug 2006). I've read any thread HHDRC was mentioned in especially carefully & I can't find anything that resembles what you were on about. Could you post a link? Or if that's not allowed, copy & paste the specific request/denial you are talking about, please?

^I'll go have a look.

Meanwhile, you obviously know that organisations in the west do not release stray dogs onto the streets. The Thai attitude of buggar your neighbour seems to apply here.

^ I wasn't forgetting them, babygirl. They do a terrific job & were esp wonderful during the time of the tsunami, when they lost a valued member & friend & the founder, Margot suffered a sort of exhaustion (if I remember correctly) from all the work they did.

National Soi Dog Day - Thailand Forum

A D.J Pat thread in fact

Originally Posted by Begbie

^I'll go have a look.

Meanwhile, you obviously know that organisations in the west do not release stray dogs onto the streets. The Thai attitude of buggar your neighbour seems to apply here.

Of course I know that. Organisations in the West never see mange, VG, pyometra, distemper, parvo or many other diseases, either. You're comparing apples & oranges. Stray dogs get claimed in the West.

Thailand/Asia are not in the least similar to the West in this, nor in many other ways. Neuter & release programmes are not needed in the West - there is no stray problem, to speak of. We are no different to any other dog org in Thailand, apart from we possibly keep more of the dogs we treat under our care than most.

Originally Posted by Begbie

National Soi Dog Day - Thailand Forum

A D.J Pat thread in fact

Where did I refuse to debate it? I answered every question put to me.

Jet, 6 months

This here be Jet, the dog I "adopted" at NR's centre. He was named Jet before I met him.

Originally Posted by November Rain

Of course I know that. Organisations in the West never see mange, VG, pyometra, distemper, parvo or many other diseases, either. You're comparing apples & oranges. Stray dogs get claimed in the West.

Some stray dogs get claimed in the west, the rest are put down.

Thai vets don't like to put dogs down, for cultural reasons, so unwanted dogs end up on the street. While I understand you're helping the individual dogs which I'm sure gives you a lot of satisfaction, The big picture is that dogs are not feral in Thailand so saying you're releasing them into their territory seems odd to say the least. If someone were to drop off a soi dog in front of my house I wouldn't be amused. I'm sure the residents of Hua Hin are no different.

I'm not worried about the red NR, but I do find your leaping to the defence of HHAD and it's posters (all six of them) rather amusing.

Let me ask you a serious question. What would happen to the dog rescue centre if you were to fall under a tuk tuk?

^ It would go under. And?

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by November Rain

Of course I know that. Organisations in the West never see mange, VG, pyometra, distemper, parvo or many other diseases, either. You're comparing apples & oranges. Stray dogs get claimed in the West.

Some stray dogs get claimed in the west, the rest are put down.

Thai vets don't like to put dogs down, for cultural reasons, so unwanted dogs end up on the street. While I understand you're helping the individual dogs which I'm sure gives you a lot of satisfaction, The big picture is that dogs are not feral in Thailand so saying you're releasing them into their territory seems odd to say the least. If someone were to drop off a soi dog in front of my house I wouldn't be amused. I'm sure the residents of Hua Hin are no different.

If they are released, they are released where they came from. There is no benefit for dogs or humans to release them somewhere totally new.

Hypothetically, if the dog came from in front of your house & we treated it, it might be released back in front of your home. Otherwise, that would not happen.

^Well as you don't see stray dogs as dangerous pests you obviously don't see anything wrong in this part of your operation. However the fact is you're releasing dangerous and unwanted animals back onto the streets.

Jayses H Krist. The woman is doing her best to help not only the animals, but the people of HH, by taking the scaby, mangey dogs off the street. Hobby? Ya, writing is my hobby, except I get paid for my work. NR does not.
Lots of armchair critics here, but I wonder how many donate or volunteer for anything. Lemmesee, there is sure to be a temple school near all of you in Thailand that could use donations for food, clothing, schoolbooks, etc, for the kids abandoned there. But then, not your problem, right?

^You're full of it jet. I've donated plenty, so I don't need a lecture from you on charity. Sorry despite NR's good intentions I'm not going to donate to her dog's home. I object to her daft idea that you can put dogs back on the street. It's a cop out.