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    So Syria actually shelled Turkey yesterday, bombarding a refugee camp to get some of those "armed gangs" (yeah, right).

    Assad is doing exactly what I said, dragging it out as long as he can so he can kill as many as possible until anyone actually does something serious to stop him.

    Had RT (Russia Television) on last night, they described it as "fighting at the border", and then went to an "expert on Middle East affairs" in Bangkok.

    Who just happened to be another fucking Russkie puppet.

    These cnuts are as bad as Press TV.

    All that's going to happen if Assad doesn't step down or create a free and fair electoral environment (the former won't solve anything, the family will retain power) is that Saudi and the rest will supply money and arms to their Sunni brothers and this one will run and run....
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    All this was going on while Turkey's PM Erdogan was in China for talks!
    No wonder he was tight lipped about what Turkey would do!

    The unprecedented cross-border battles, which claimed the lives of two Syrian refugees and a Lebanese reporter, came just hours before a ceasefire deadline came into force.
    The Turkish government, which has already threatened to take military action to protect its border, summoned Syria's envoy to Ankara to demand an official explanation.
    According to Turkish officials, Syrian troops pursued rebels across the border following an attack on a checkpoint that killed six soldiers. Two Syrian nationals, described as civilian, were subsequently shot dead as they tried to escape to the nearby Killis refugee camp.

    Syria ceasefire plans close to collapse
    A last minute demand by Bashar al-Assad's Syrian government has been rejected by the opposition, as the prospect of a UN-brokered ceasefire looked increasingly bleak.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-collapse.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Assad is doing exactly what I said
    he must be watching the same TV channels as you



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Had RT (Russia Television) on last night, they described it as "fighting at the border", and then went to an "expert on Middle East affairs" in Bangkok. Who just happened to be another fucking Russkie puppet.
    just the other side's propaganda

    nothing wrong with a bit of balance; just don't believe either side to be fair

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    To be fair Annan has only one person to get to agree on the Syrian Government side. The terrorists, the "official" Syrian Amy, the PGCC backers, the EU, the US, NATO and Israel are organisations with their own agendas and are still failing to speak with one voice, let alone agree on a strategy.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    To be fair

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    Here are some photos of terrorists building, installing IEDs in Syria. Is there any difference between this terrorist, supported , armed, trained and directed by the "civilised" western coailiton crusaders nad the terrorists in Afghanistan killed and hunted down by the same organisations?

    Photos of Syrian rebels destroying the road to their mountain stronghold with a pipe-bomb | News | National Post












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    Good pics!

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    Unfolding events in Egypt. The same people who the crusader coalition, the PGSS et al are promoting to take charge of Syria.

    Asia Times Online :: Muslim Brotherhood chooses chaos

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    Muslim Brotherhood chooses chaos
    By Spengler

    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood signaled its intent on Sunday to push the country into economic chaos. With liquid foreign exchange reserves barely equal to two months' imports and panic spreading through the Egyptian economy, the Brotherhood's presidential candidate Khairat al-Shater warned that it would block a US$3 billion emergency loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) unless the military government ceded power.

    "We told them [the government], you have two choices. Either postpone this issue of borrowing and come up with any other way of dealing with it without our approval, or speed up the formation of a government," Khairat al-Shater said in a Reuters interview. [1]

    The news service added that al-Shater "said he realized the country's finances were precarious and a severe crunch could come by early to mid-May as the end of the fiscal year approached, but that this was the government's problem to resolve". Last week, Egypt's central bank reported that total reserves had fallen to $15 billion, but - more importantly - liquid foreign exchange reserves had fallen to only $9 billion, equivalent to just two months' imports. Foreign exchange futures markets expect the Egyptian pound to lose half its value during the next year, and Egyptians have responded by hoarding diesel fuel, propane gas and other necessities.

    With half of Egypt's population living on $2 a day or less, the expected devaluation would push a significant part of the population below minimum nutrition levels, and balloon the government's deficit as the cost of subsidizing imported necessities rose. Egypt imports half its caloric consumption. The IMF loan was a stop gap to delay devaluation, but the Muslim Brotherhood's al-Shater made clear that Egypt's dominant political party would spike it. "It is not logical that I approve a loan that the transitional government would take for two or three months, then demand that I, as a permanent government, repay," Shater told Reuters." I have to agree to a loan, somebody else gets to spend it, then I have to pay it back? That is unjust."

    As Egypt headed towards chaotic breakdown, Western observers asked how its economy might be stabilized. This appears to have been the wrong question to begin with, for the Muslim Brotherhood will not allow the West to stabilize Egypt's financial position. The right question is: who will benefit from the chaos? At this writing, the Muslim Brotherhood appears to be the winner by default, for no other actor has the courage and cold blood to exploit the emerging crisis. America, by contrast, is locked into the defense of a deteriorating fixed position. And Egypt's military leaders are more concerned with feathering their nests in exile, like the Iranian generals in 1979. The Brotherhood believes that widespread hunger will strengthen its political position, and is probably correct to believe this. As the central government's corrupt and rickety system of subsidies collapses, local Islamist organizations will take control of food distribution and establish a virtual dictatorship on the streets. American analysts mistook the protestors of Tahrir Square for revolutionaries. The Muslim Brotherhood now reveals itself to be a revolutionary organization on the Leninist or Nazi model. The Brotherhood's revolutionary program has been gestating for some time. As food and fuel shortages emerged in the first months of after the downfall of president Hosni Mubarak last year, Islamist organizations already began to fill the vacuum left by the breakdown of the old civil regime.

    The Ministry of Solidarity and Social Justice began forming "revolutionary committees" to mete out street justice to bakeries, propane dealers and street vendors who "charge more than the price prescribed by law", the Federation of Egyptian Radio and Television reported on May 3, 2011. According to the ministry, "Thugs are in control of bread and butane prices" and "people's committees" are required to stop them. The government already may have curtailed imports of fuel and other subsidized items, with fuel supplies down by 35% from normal levels, according to local UN observers. "It has been three months since a fuel shortage hit Egypt, and people's patience is wearing thin amid fears the crisis could disrupt the production of subsidized bread," the UN-sponsored news service IRIN reported from Cairo on April 2. "The government blames hoarding for the crisis," IRIN adds. "Thousands of cars queue outside petrol stations from early morning, while long queues form outside gas cylinder centers." Whether the government has anticipated a devaluation by hoarding hard currency, or the public has anticipated a devaluation by hoarding products that are bought with hard currency, or both, the result is the same: Egypt is running out of money and faces a chaotic devaluation. Egypt's political actors appear to have moved past the question of avoiding the crisis, and are positioning themselves instead to exploit the crisis.

    American policy seems entirely unprepared to deal with this scenario. America has paid out $75 billion in aid to the Egyptian military since the peace treaty with Israel in 1979, and continues to see the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces as the fulcrum of stability in Egyptian politics.

    This is a bi-partisan stance. Senators John McCain (Republican-Arizona) and Lindsey Graham (Republican San Francisco) met with Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood leaders in Cairo in March, evidently in the hope of persuading the Brotherhood not to challenge the armed forces' control of the government. McCain made clear that he wanted to maintain reduce "tensions" between the Islamists and the armed forces regime, as he said in a March 30 radio interview in Cairo:

    The current tension between the military council and the Muslim Brotherhood may aggravate the situation in the country in the upcoming period during which the constitution will be drafted ... I'm deeply concerned about the possibility of an escalation of tensions and the occurrence of more confrontations and demonstrations [in Egypt]. However, the more important question is whether the Muslim Brotherhood will adopt a moderate approach, or if some of its extremist members will be directing the constitution-drafting process and the [presidential] elections. [2]
    That is the default American position, but it appears to have become obsolete in the week since McCain and Graham went to Cairo. The Muslim Brotherhood, contrary to earlier promises, was not content to take over parliament, but also fielded its own presidential candidate, Khairat al-Shater, and al-Shater showed his hand on April 8.

    As a revolutionary organization that rose under the influence of Nazi Germany's wartime foreign ministry, the Brotherhood has no qualms about exacerbating Egypt's economic misery if it furthers its agenda. Paul Berman's 2010 book The Flight of the Intellectuals summarized exhaustive academic research into wartime archives showing that the Brotherhood was shaped by Nazi ideology. Berman's report evoked outrage, but has stood up well to its critics. [3] The New Republic essay that formed the core of Berman's book is available. [4]

    A Muslim Brotherhood consolidation of power on the back of devaluation and food shortages using techniques of the Bolsheviks in 1917 or the Nazis in 1933 seems the most likely outcome. There seems to be no plan to avert it, for the power of the military will run out along with the country's foreign exchange reserves. The US backed away from a fight with the Egyptian regime over the arrest of American non-governmental organization (NGO) democracy activists, and pushed through a renewal of a $1.3 billion aid package. But a Brotherhood coup in Cairo would have implications through the whole Arab world. As Issandr el-Armani wrote April 2 at The Arabist:

    The US is still putting all of its eggs in the military's basket, as the recent waiver for aid to Egypt and the backroom deal over the NGO affair showed. Gulf states like the UAE [United Arab Emirates] are in full-blown anti-Muslim Brotherhood hysteria, reflecting a wider unease in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and even Qatar about a Muslim Brotherhood-led Egypt. [5]
    That is an important wrinkle, virtually ignored by the US foreign policy establishment. To the extent American analysts have examined the links between the Muslim Brotherhood and the Saudi royal family, they have concluded that "the Saudis gained newfound influence with the Muslim Brotherhood and its even more hard-line Salafis", as John R Bradley argued last October in Foreign Affairs. [6] The Gulf monarchies have a reason to fear the Muslim Brotherhood: as opposed to the tribal monarchies of the Gulf, the Brotherhood rebottles Islamic radicalism in the form of a modern totalitarian revolutionary party. If Egypt starves, the cry will go up from Cairo: "Our brothers lack bread and the corrupt House of Saud spends in wealth on whisky and whores."

    Gulf State officials have made no secret of their alarm. Egypt Independent columnist Sultan al-Qassemi [7] reported on February 2, "In a widely circulated video recording of a recent speech in Bahrain, Dubai's police chief, who enjoys close relations with the country's prime minister, warned against the Muslim Brotherhood, stating that their 'threat to the region was just as serious as that of Iran's." A potential conflict between the Gulf States and Egypt will further add to centrifugal tendencies in the region. They are allies against Iran, but prospective competitors, and deadly ones. The Muslim Brotherhood's efforts to wrest control of Syria from the Iranian-allied Assad family may push the the conflict into an entirely new dimension.

    Insufficient attention has been given to the prospective collapse of Syria as a motivation for an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear program. In the past several days, Israel has sounded public warnings regarding Syria's chemical weapons stockpile, estimated to be the world's largest. As the Financial Times wrote on March 22, Israel has "profound concern that parts of Syria's vast stockpile of arms, including long-range missiles as well as chemical and biological weapons, will end up in the hands of militant groups in Lebanon or elsewhere. [8] Speaking to the Israeli parliament this week, Ehud Barak, the defense minister, emphasized the short-term dangers posed by turmoil in Syria. 'We are monitoring events in Syria, with an eye on any efforts to transfer weapons that would alter the balance ... Events in Syria increase the uncertainty and the need to prepare for any scenario,' he warned."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Here are some photos of terrorists building, installing IEDs in Syria. Is there any difference between this terrorist, supported , armed, trained and directed by the "civilised" western coailiton crusaders nad the terrorists in Afghanistan killed and hunted down by the same organisations?

    Photos of Syrian rebels destroying the road to their mountain stronghold with a pipe-bomb | News | National Post

    May be I'm missing something, or perhaps your Alzheimers is kicking in again, but the SYRIAN rebels are trying to defend SYRIAN civilians and protestors from attack by the SYRIAN GOVERNMENT.

    So blowing up roads to stop your enemy (in this case Assad's troops) doesn't seem to me to be a "terrorist" act, but more a quite sensible tactical one.
    Judging by the litany of errors in your rabid tirade, I'm guessing you've had a few beers before you posted that nonsense, eh?



    P.S. I won't bother commenting on the other post, if you continue to use shit looney sites like Asia News Online, it doesn't really merit any comment other than it's copied from a looney site, does it?

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    jesus, another fine mess created by the US and the silly western lapdogs

    where is DeGaulles or Chirac when we need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    jesus, another fine mess created by the US and the silly western lapdogs

    where is DeGaulles or Chirac when we need it
    Interesting that you quote De Gaulle, as one of his more memorable quotes is very appropriate in this situation:

    "Politics is too serious a matter to be left to politicians.".

    And it would seem even Russia is no longer ludicrously referring to them as "terrorists" but as "groups of the opposition" - another major shift:

    Russia is ready for talks with all Syrian opposition groups, both ‘internal’ and ‘external,’ Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said in an interview with the Russia Today TV channel.
    “We would be open to any contacts with all groups of the opposition,” Gatilov said. “We maintain contacts with the external opposition in capitals where they seat, where they reside, but not in Moscow yet. So we are open and we would be happy to invite them to Moscow, to start political contacts with them.”

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    Shelling continues today in Aleppo, Homs and Dera'a.

    Nice one, Bashar.

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    U.S. To Supply Nonlethal Aid To Syrian Opposition — But No Weapons

    WASHINGTON — On the one-year anniversary of the uprisings in Syria, U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that the armed resistance is not able to mount a credible military threat to the regime of Bashar al-Assad, senior U.S. intelligence officials told The Huffington Post.

    The powerful, Russian-armed Syrian army remains firmly in control behind the Assad regime, senior intelligence officials say.

    The White House has authorized providing medical supplies and nonlethal equipment to civilian Syrian groups that would transport the supplies, according to a source close to the administration’s deliberations on Syria.

    But the failure of the armed opposition to take advantage of defections from the Syrian armed forces or coordinate its actions into a meaningful security challenge of the regime appears to leave the United States and other critics of the regime without a long-term strategy for ousting Assad.

    U.S. To Supply Nonlethal Aid To Syrian Opposition -- But No Weapons - Breaking News Online


    Non Lethal Weapons
    A couple of examples

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    The riot police and military are both plunging into the future of crowd control, inventing space-age weapons that won't kill you, but will make you wish they had. Such as...

    The Active Denial System (ADS) is a giant heat ray (or pain ray as it's informally and less ambiguously known). The weapon fires electromagnetic radiation at the target causing a painful burning sensation.


    The PHASR (aka Crowd-Blinding Rifle)
    This futuristic weapon is being developed by the US military, who call it the Personal Halting and Stimulation Response rifle. Why such a clumsy name? Because they wanted to call it a PHASR. Get it! Like in Star Trek! How cute! There's no way this thing could turn out to be horrifying!


    Read more: 6 "Non-Lethal" Weapons That'll Make You Wish You Were Dead | Cracked.com 6 "Non-Lethal" Weapons That'll Make You Wish You Were Dead | Cracked.com

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    Missiles, mines, mortars, machine guns, sniper rifles, shotguns, and IED, utilised today but no acceptance of a ceasefire by the coalition crusader cannon fodder.

    Nice one, some of the UNSC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    So blowing up roads to stop your enemy (in this case Assad's troops) doesn't seem to me to be a "terrorist" act, but more a quite sensible tactical one
    Recent pictures of "unarmed peaceful demonstrators".

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    all a bunch of friendly people,

    in America, such a revolt would be dealt with effectively and legally, the marines would be called, and everyone shot on sight

    oh wait !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    So blowing up roads to stop your enemy (in this case Assad's troops) doesn't seem to me to be a "terrorist" act, but more a quite sensible tactical one
    Recent pictures of "unarmed peaceful demonstrators".
    I commented on your sequence of pictures of rebels blowing up a road to protect their position.

    You respond with some complete misquote and a picture of fighters in combat.

    Are you fucking thick?

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    "(Reuters) - Syrian troops held their fire in the hours after a U.N.-backed ceasefire took effect at dawn on Thursday, casting a silence over rebellious towns they had bombarded heavily in recent days.

    But the lull did little to convince opposition activists and Western powers of President Bashar al-Assad's good faith in observing a peace plan agreed with international envoy Kofi Annan. In defiance of that deal, Syrian troops and tanks were still in position inside many towns, activists told Reuters.

    Calling the truce "only partially observed" due to that failure to withdraw, urged a renewal of mass protests on Friday. But it warned those taking to the streets, after months when once weekly rallies have been subdued by fear, that they could expect government forces to open fire."

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    Be interesting to see how Assad deals with peaceful protests on the streets.

    Snipers perhaps? Or only shelling at night?

    Syrians Take to Streets in Test of Annan Cease-Fire Plan


    By Nayla Razzouk and Emre Peker - Apr 12, 2012 3:09 PM GMT+0300



    Syrians took to the streets to demonstrate against President Bashar al-Assad, emboldened by a cease-fire negotiated by United Nations’ envoy Kofi Annan that took effect today after a year of deadly violence.
    The 6 a.m. cease-fire was apparently holding with only a few isolated reports of gunfire and explosions in north and east, compared with a daily death toll that has often exceeded 100 and claimed more than 9,000 lives since the uprising began.

    Syrians took to the streets to demonstrate against President Bashar al-Assad, emboldened by a cease-fire negotiated by United Nations’ envoy Kofi Annan that took effect today after a year of deadly violence.





    “The return to calm should allow the demonstrators to prove their size and their strength,” Rami Abdel Rahman, the London-based head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said in a telephone interview.
    At stake for Assad is the survival of his family’s four- decade hold on power.


    Syria’s top officials are members of the Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shia Islam, which is a minority in Syria and whose privileged status may be at risk should they be toppled. Syria has also turned into a battleground between Sunni-led Saudi Arabia and Shia-majority Iran, that’s spilled over into Lebanon and Turkey.


    Syria’s army breached the cease-fire in some parts of the country, Burhan Ghalioun, leader of the main opposition alliance, told Al Arabiya. The channel reported shootings in the town of Saraqib, while Al Jazeera cited attacks in the northern province of Idlib.


    Annan brokered the cease-fire as part of a six-point peace plan that won backing from Russia and China. Those two countries had vetoed earlier efforts by the U.S. and its European and Arab allies to pass a UN Security Council resolution calling for Assad to cede power.
    Democratic Elections

    “We hope that calm will continue to prevail so that we reach a phase where we have democratic legislative, local and presidential elections, under international supervision, without any bloodshed,” Abdel Rahman said. “The Syrian authorities should now start releasing detainees, which are between 25,000 and 30,000.”


    The Syrian government pledged to “cease all military fighting” as of 6 a.m. local time, according to a letter from the foreign ministry released by Annan’s office.
    Syria’s army ended operations this morning after carrying out “successful missions in combating criminal acts by armed terrorist groups,” the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported, citing a Defense Ministry official it didn’t identify. It said the army will stay on alert “to confront any attack by armed terrorist groups against civilians, law-enforcement members, the armed forces and private and public facilities.”
    ‘Possible Violations’

    The Syrian government is “absolutely” committed to the cease-fire, Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi said in an interview with the BBC’s Radio 4 today. “We do want monitors to come as soon as possible to monitor any possible violations.”


    As many as 160 people have been killed daily since Assad agreed to Annan’s plan on March 27, according to the Local Coordinating Committees of Syria, an opposition group.


    Western diplomats have expressed skepticism about Assad’s pledge to abide by the cease-fire. U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice said yesterday that Syria’s commitments “have little if any credibility.”

    Turkey warned that it may call on fellow NATO countries to reinforce its border with Syria, after Syrian troops fired across the frontier at refugees trying to escape. Turkey may invoke a NATO article defining an attack on one member as an attack on the alliance requiring a collective response, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told reporters during a visit to China, according to Sabah newspaper.

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    Syria: Opposition calls for protests to test regime's resolve after ceasefire


    The main opposition group in Syria has called for people to protest against the ruling regime tomorrow as a fragile ceasefire came into effect with no reports of violence so far.


    Demonstrators reportedly took to the streets of Al-Tah in Idlib on Thursday (Picture: AFP/Getty)


    The Syrian National Council (SNC) urged Syrians to demonstrate peacefully after Friday prayers at noon amid reports of spontaneous anti-government demonstrations in parts of the country today.


    'Tomorrow, like every Friday, the Syrian people are called to demonstrate even more and put the regime in front of its responsibilities - put the international community in front of its responsibilities,' said Burhan Ghalioun, head of the SNC.


    More than 9,000 people have died since the Syrian government responded to pro-democracy protesters last March with a brutal crackdown.


    Rami Abdul-Rahman, who heads the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said there were no reports of violence in the central provinces of Hama and Homs, the northern regions of Idlib and Aleppo, the capital Damascus and its suburbs, as well as Daraa to the south and Deir el-Zour to the east.


    Government tanks were reportedly patrolling the streets of Idlib (Picture: AP)


    But he added there had been army patrols sighted in Damascus and Homs, in defiance of the terms of the ceasefire brokered by the United Nations and Arab League.


    'There have been no withdrawals from checkpoints but calm is prevailing in all areas in Syria,' he said.


    Western powers had expressed doubt over Syrian president Bashar al-Assad's commitment to the truce, especially after troops failed to withdraw from populated areas two days ago as previously agreed.


    There was government shelling of rebel-held positions reported up until last night but opposition activists said the ceasefire appeared to be holding on Thursday morning.




    Pro-regime demonstrators take to the streets in Damascus (Picture: AFP/Getty)


    Amid continuing violence in the days leading up to the ceasefire, joint UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan said he had received assurances from Mr al-Assad that the truce would be respected.


    The UN Security Council has recently presented more of a united front after previous dissenters Russia and China urged Syria to respect the ceasefire.
    Western powers had warned the UN-Arab League peace plan, which calls for a political settlement to be reached following the end of bloodshed, was the last diplomatic solution to the crisis.


    But the international community looks short on alternative options should the peace plan fail, with military intervention already ruled out.




    UN-Arab League peace envoy Kofi Annan with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Picture: AP)


    Analysts have said that the uprising in Syria has the most far-reaching potential of any of the Arab Spring pro-democracy movements because of the Middle East state's web of allegiances to Hezbollah in Lebanon and Iran.


    Mr Annan was in Tehran yesterday to press for Iranian support for his peace plan.


    While the west has called for Mr al-Assad to leave office, Syria's key allies Iran and Russia have said the president is best placed to lead the conflict to a peaceful resolution.


    Bassam Imadi, a member of the opposition Syrian National Council, commented: 'Peace will never come to this country before this regime is overthrown - that is something for sure.


    'The regime is using all these breaks, those initiatives, those diplomatic and political solutions only to try and finish the uprising.'



    Read more: Syria: Opposition calls for protests to test regime's resolve after ceasefire | Metro.co.uk

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    ^^I am sure the terrorist snipers will continue to shoot unarmed protesting civilians along with terrorist bomb factories exploding.

    How does one tell the difference between a Syrian Government shell hitting a building and an explosion by terrorists?

    How does one tell the difference between a Syrian Government sniper and a crusader coalition sniper, do they wear different coloured hats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^^I am sure the terrorist snipers will continue to shoot unarmed protesting civilians along with terrorist bomb factories exploding.

    How does one tell the difference between a Syrian Government shell hitting a building and an explosion by terrorists?

    How does one tell the difference between a Syrian Government sniper and a crusader coalition sniper, do they wear different coloured hats?
    Fairly simple. You allow reporters free access.

    But the side blocking free reporting is the one that has the most to lose by allowing that to happen. It's also the one that killed two reporters.

    Has that not got through to you yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    You allow reporters free access
    "Reporters" already have access harry, some in the world have stopped believing the "reporters" though.

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    An unequivocal message from China

    "A turning point in Syria's bloody crisis did not arrive on April 10 as expected. Violence in the country has worsened despite promises of a ceasefire.

    According to a peace plan put forward by U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, the Syrian government should withdraw its troops from cities and halt all violence in 48 hours after 6 a.m. on April 10 local time, and the rebels should halt hostilities within 48 hours of the withdrawal by government forces. The year-long conflict must end at 6 a.m. on April 12 local time.

    All parties involved in the Syrian crisis must be clearly aware that Annan’ peace plan embodies the will of the international community to stop violence and restore order in the troubled country, and the ceasefire is not negotiable.

    The Syrian government must take the initiative on the troop withdrawal and ceasefire, and the opposition must rigidly observe the ceasefire. Both sides must adopt a responsible attitude toward the Syrian people, and pay due respect to international mediation. Any side violating the peace plan will pay a heavy price, lose moral support, and suffer great external pressure. There is now no room for resolving the Syrian crisis by force, and any military action for seizing control of the situation will not be tolerated."

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    The Russians carry on with the same message.

    Russia urges Syrian opposition to follow government's ceasefire move - People's Daily Online

    "MOSCOW, April 11 (Xinhua) -- Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov on Wednesday confirmed the Syrian government's decision to a ceasefire, urging the opposition armed groups to follow suit.

    "The Syrian government said it would cease fire at 6:00 a.m. local time (0300 GMT) on April 12. Now the ball is on the armed opposition's court," Gatilov wrote in his Twitter microblog.

    He stressed the opposition's stop of fighting was also a condition stipulated by UN-Arab League joint envoy Kofi Annan.

    Also on Wednesday, Syria's official SANA news agency and Annan' s spokesman both confirmed the Syrian government's will of a truce.

    Damascus' announcement came in compliance with the deadline given by the United Nations for the implementation of a ceasefire brokered by Annan to solve the Syrian crisis politically and save the country from plunging into an all-out civil war.

    The six-point proposal put forward by Annan has set April 10 as the deadline for troop withdrawal and April 12 as the deadline for a complete ceasefire between the Syrian army and rebels."

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