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06-09-2011, 09:26 PM

Ok what's your predictions ?

I'm going

First Goalscorer Cleverley

4-0 England

Wales have only ever won once at Wembley

alwarner · 06-09-2011, 09:45 PM

England should have far too much for them, but been poor at home lately. A draw wouldn't surprise me.

Bettyboo · 06-09-2011, 10:03 PM

3-2, to either team, probably England (we're crap and over-rated...)

07-09-2011, 03:27 AM

^ Both right,

did u see that sitter Earnshaw missed

Even Somtamslaps Granny would have buried that

07-09-2011, 03:52 AM

England were dire. didnt deserve the 3 points against the minnows

2 words sping to mind

Bob and Cock

English Noodles · 07-09-2011, 04:17 AM

What a load of utter crap. England were terrible.

spikebs4 · 07-09-2011, 05:09 AM

yeap..but still got three points .....

blue · 07-09-2011, 05:20 AM

I stopped watching England a few years ago
they played like scared rabbits
no joy or verve even against 100 ranked opponents ,
worse games are when we go 1 -0 up early on,
then they really get scared and defend for the rest of the game

the old players seem to pass the fear to the new ones
and the cycle goes on and on

Bobcock · 07-09-2011, 05:50 AM

1 - 0, was the score on the pitch or with the fans outside?

Murdering English Bastards!

LooseBowels · 07-09-2011, 05:57 AM

six taffs arrested, suspected murder.

So much for football

grasshopper · 07-09-2011, 07:50 AM

Dont worry chasps. It'll be oh soo much nicer when the rugger starts.

Sailing into trouble · 07-09-2011, 08:45 AM

Used to enjoy the Rugby world cups. Now often great let down. Few upsets, apart from NZ always beating themselves. The sport is now one of power and size, the days of flair and guile seem to be a distant memory.

Still I am buying Setanta and will as always be glued to the rugby for the next month, just another addiction.

harrybarracuda · 07-09-2011, 02:30 PM

Qualifying matches are generally a crushing bore, but all you need is 3 points, so from that perspective, England did just fine.

A 0-0 draw or better with Monty the Negro and they're on their way to Poland/Ukraine and the English press can start building them up as the best team since the 1970 Brazil side.

Marmite the Dog · 07-09-2011, 02:33 PM

Just watched the highlights programme. Should've been about 5 mins long. Wales looked like the better team, especially in the 2nd half and definitely deserved something from the game.

Thai Pom · 07-09-2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Still I am buying Setanta

If you are in Thailand and get ESPN, it is on there.

English Noodles · 07-09-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobcock

1 - 0, was the score on the pitch or with the fans outside? Murdering English Bastards!

It appears to have been trouble between two sets of supporters from rival towns in Wales.

harrybarracuda · 07-09-2011, 04:29 PM

Swansea fans kill Cardiff fan. It was probably all for the affections of a Torddu.

Bobcock · 07-09-2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by English Noodles

It appears to have been trouble between two sets of supporters from rival towns in Wales.

Figures, Welsh football fans are idiots amongst themselves, Swansea Cardiff is always a very nasty affair. If you live in Swansea and support Cardiff, you must return to Cardiff to journey to and from Cardiff if they play in Swansea. Stupid? nope, they deserve it, they can't be trusted.

Sadly, you'll probably find the bloke who died didn't deserve it, just a lone guy picked on for that reason.

Bobcock · 07-09-2011, 04:55 PM

after that diatribe the BBC Reports this in contradiction of the two posts above mine....

Quote:

The 44-year-old was taken to hospital with head injuries after suffering cardiac arrest outside Wembley stadium before the 2012 qualifier on Tuesday.

Mr Dye died in hospital shortly before 21:00 BST.

The six arrested are thought to be Wales supporters and police do not believe any England fans were involved.

The Met's Homicide and Serious Crime Command is investigating.

In a statement on its website Cardiff City FC said: "Late on Tuesday night details reached us concerning a tragedy where a Wales and Cardiff City supporter died at the match between England and Wales.

"Out of respect for the family of the supporter, the sensitivity of the situation and until full details are circumstances are ascertained, no statements will be made until deemed fit by proper channels."

It is not believed inter-club rivalry is behind the incident.

Marmite the Dog · 07-09-2011, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Mr Dye

Not Mr Dai?

Sailing into trouble · 08-09-2011, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Just watched the highlights programme. Should've been about 5 mins long. Wales looked like the better team, especially in the 2nd half and definitely deserved something from the game.

I blame Lamp man. Didn't watch the game, but from the highlights (or low lights) Wales could have easily have taken a point if not more. Must be Lampards fault couldn't have been that Wales played well and England dam near choked again

Sailing into trouble · 08-09-2011, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thai Pom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Still I am buying Setanta

If you are in Thailand and get ESPN, it is on there.

Nope still in the frigging wet lands of North West BC. It is still raining like never bloody ending. Like a cold monsoon that has lasted 4months and counting. The main river here is incredibly high and flooding is widespread.

Sorry

Setanta owns the rights over here and I think it is the only channel on our dish that covers the RWC. Anyway just another $15! So wall to wall soccer and rugby for a while.

08-09-2011, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Murdering English Bastards!

Apparently he posted on forums

Maybe he was an annoying fucker who got his facts wrong

08-09-2011, 09:10 AM

‘Aggro’ boasts of killed footie fan

Dad of three Mikey Dye had conviction for pitch brawl

Devoted dad and partner ... Mikey Dye with Nathalie
Wales News Service

Fan ‘murder’ at Wembley Stadium

SIX men arrested after Wales fan is beaten to death before defeat to England at Wembley

Fan ‘murder’ at Wembley Stadium

SIX men arrested after Wales fan is beaten to death before defeat to England at Wembley

By JOHN COLES
Published: Today

WEMBLEY victim Mikey Dye proudly boasted about being a soccer hooligan on football forums, it was revealed last night.

He had a conviction over a pitch invasion.
And he was closely associated with Cardiff City's notorious "Soul Crew" of trouble-seeking louts.
Yet away from football matches, he was a father of three described as a "great dad" and a hard-working council pavement layer.
Mr Dye, 44, was involved in a clash between Welsh fans outside the North London stadium before Tuesday night's England v Wales Euro 2012 qualifying match.
He had a heart attack after suffering head injuries in the fracas.
One theory was that the flare-up involved fans of Cardiff and Swansea City, who have a history of hostile rivalry. Six men arrested in the Wales fans' end of the stadium were quizzed yesterday by murder case detectives before being bailed pending further inquiries.
But last night police said they believed Mr Dye was deliberately targeted by one person.
Mr Dye gave himself the nickname "Ely Trendy" after a group of Cardiff fans who formed a splinter group from the Soul Crew. He spoke openly on forums about travelling to the Championship team's away fixtures since the early 1980s and being involved in "argy bargy".
He said he was banned from going to matches for nine months and fined £425 in 1986 after a "pitch invasion and fisticuffs" at Peterborough. But he boasted: "Happy days — wouldn't change a thing."

Probe ... cop outside stadium entrance after fan clash

Mr Dye told how he was in court last year charged with starting trouble at a Swansea City friendly against Swindon in July 2009.

Tribute ... team shirt at Cardiff ground
Wales News Service

He was arrested for obstructing a cop at Swindon railway station.
He mocked the police's handling of the case, saying in poor English: "These old bill wood not have lived with what fuzz put up with in 80s when they use to come in amonst us an losin ther helmuts an gettin punched while punchin back."
Mr Dye was a long-time friend of Cardiff fans leader Annis Abraham, 45. Mr Abraham was with him before the Wembley game, which England won 1-0, but did not witness his death. He said: "No animosity should ever result in anyone dying. It's sickening."
Mr Dye's partner Nathalie, his daughter Rebecca, 24, and 21-year-old twins James and Christopher were being comforted by relatives at their Cardiff home last night.
A pal said: "Mike was a hard-working guy and a great dad. He made sure all his children were brought up properly."
Tributes on a Facebook site set up for Mr Dye included one reading: "Can't believe Swansea/Cardiff football rivalry has ended in a man's death! WALES were playing. Fans should be on the same side."

Wembley ... on night of death
Blake Ezra Cole

A Bluebirds away shirt was tied to railings at the club's ground. A message scrawled on it read: "RIP Mikey Dye — Nipsy, The Clems and Beef."
Both Cardiff and Swansea sent condolences to the family. Swansea said the six men bailed were from North Wales, without saying which club they follow.

alwarner · 08-09-2011, 09:14 AM

like the quotes in the article say no one should lose their life following football.

06-09-2011, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
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06-09-2011, 09:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
alwarner Top Valver. Last Online: Today 07:14 PM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Location: Location. Posts: 4,327	England should have far too much for them, but been poor at home lately. A draw wouldn't surprise me.

06-09-2011, 10:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bettyboo Member Last Online: Today 11:21 PM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 12,131	3-2, to either team, probably England (we're crap and over-rated...)

07-09-2011, 03:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
sabaii sabaii Guest Posts: n/a	^ Both right, did u see that sitter Earnshaw missed Even Somtamslaps Granny would have buried that

07-09-2011, 03:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
sabaii sabaii Guest Posts: n/a	England were dire. didnt deserve the 3 points against the minnows 2 words sping to mind Bob and Cock

07-09-2011, 04:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
English Noodles The Dentist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burning Down a Pikey Caravan Posts: 16,999	What a load of utter crap. England were terrible.

07-09-2011, 05:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
spikebs4 Member Last Online: 18-11-2012 03:26 AM Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 775	yeap..but still got three points .....

07-09-2011, 05:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
blue Molecular Mixup Last Online: Today 05:48 PM Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 54°N Posts: 6,438	I stopped watching England a few years ago they played like scared rabbits no joy or verve even against 100 ranked opponents , worse games are when we go 1 -0 up early on, then they really get scared and defend for the rest of the game the old players seem to pass the fear to the new ones and the cycle goes on and on

07-09-2011, 05:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bobcock Llanddewi Brefi's Finest Last Online: Today 09:27 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thong Lor Posts: 10,830	1 - 0, was the score on the pitch or with the fans outside? Murdering English Bastards!

07-09-2011, 05:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
LooseBowels Suspended from Issues Last Online: 23-03-2013 04:22 AM Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,766	six taffs arrested, suspected murder. So much for football

07-09-2011, 07:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
grasshopper Member Last Online: 20-05-2013 03:02 PM Join Date: May 2009 Location: sydney by the beach Posts: 480	Dont worry chasps. It'll be oh soo much nicer when the rugger starts.

07-09-2011, 02:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
harrybarracuda Member Last Online: Today 05:26 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 17,111	Qualifying matches are generally a crushing bore, but all you need is 3 points, so from that perspective, England did just fine. A 0-0 draw or better with Monty the Negro and they're on their way to Poland/Ukraine and the English press can start building them up as the best team since the 1970 Brazil side.

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Marmite the Dog ผู้เชี่ยวชาญเปล่า Last Online: Today 11:13 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simian Islands Posts: 42,213	Just watched the highlights programme. Should've been about 5 mins long. Wales looked like the better team, especially in the 2nd half and definitely deserved something from the game.

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harrybarracuda Member Last Online: Today 05:26 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 17,111	Swansea fans kill Cardiff fan. It was probably all for the affections of a Torddu.

08-09-2011, 09:10 AM	#24 (permalink)
sabaii sabaii Guest Posts: n/a	‘Aggro’ boasts of killed footie fan Dad of three Mikey Dye had conviction for pitch brawl Devoted dad and partner ... Mikey Dye with Nathalie Wales News Service Fan ‘murder’ at Wembley Stadium SIX men arrested after Wales fan is beaten to death before defeat to England at Wembley Fan ‘murder’ at Wembley Stadium SIX men arrested after Wales fan is beaten to death before defeat to England at Wembley By JOHN COLES Published: Today WEMBLEY victim Mikey Dye proudly boasted about being a soccer hooligan on football forums, it was revealed last night. He had a conviction over a pitch invasion. And he was closely associated with Cardiff City's notorious "Soul Crew" of trouble-seeking louts. Yet away from football matches, he was a father of three described as a "great dad" and a hard-working council pavement layer. Mr Dye, 44, was involved in a clash between Welsh fans outside the North London stadium before Tuesday night's England v Wales Euro 2012 qualifying match. He had a heart attack after suffering head injuries in the fracas. One theory was that the flare-up involved fans of Cardiff and Swansea City, who have a history of hostile rivalry. Six men arrested in the Wales fans' end of the stadium were quizzed yesterday by murder case detectives before being bailed pending further inquiries. But last night police said they believed Mr Dye was deliberately targeted by one person. Mr Dye gave himself the nickname "Ely Trendy" after a group of Cardiff fans who formed a splinter group from the Soul Crew. He spoke openly on forums about travelling to the Championship team's away fixtures since the early 1980s and being involved in "argy bargy". He said he was banned from going to matches for nine months and fined £425 in 1986 after a "pitch invasion and fisticuffs" at Peterborough. But he boasted: "Happy days — wouldn't change a thing." Probe ... cop outside stadium entrance after fan clash Mr Dye told how he was in court last year charged with starting trouble at a Swansea City friendly against Swindon in July 2009. Tribute ... team shirt at Cardiff ground Wales News Service He was arrested for obstructing a cop at Swindon railway station. He mocked the police's handling of the case, saying in poor English: "These old bill wood not have lived with what fuzz put up with in 80s when they use to come in amonst us an losin ther helmuts an gettin punched while punchin back." Mr Dye was a long-time friend of Cardiff fans leader Annis Abraham, 45. Mr Abraham was with him before the Wembley game, which England won 1-0, but did not witness his death. He said: "No animosity should ever result in anyone dying. It's sickening." Mr Dye's partner Nathalie, his daughter Rebecca, 24, and 21-year-old twins James and Christopher were being comforted by relatives at their Cardiff home last night. A pal said: "Mike was a hard-working guy and a great dad. He made sure all his children were brought up properly." Tributes on a Facebook site set up for Mr Dye included one reading: "Can't believe Swansea/Cardiff football rivalry has ended in a man's death! WALES were playing. Fans should be on the same side." Wembley ... on night of death Blake Ezra Cole A Bluebirds away shirt was tied to railings at the club's ground. A message scrawled on it read: "RIP Mikey Dye — Nipsy, The Clems and Beef." Both Cardiff and Swansea sent condolences to the family. Swansea said the six men bailed were from North Wales, without saying which club they follow.

08-09-2011, 09:14 AM	#25 (permalink)
alwarner Top Valver. Last Online: Today 07:14 PM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Location: Location. Posts: 4,327	like the quotes in the article say no one should lose their life following football.

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