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    Italian clubs found guilty

    Some form of justice for those cheating bastards..

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    Italian trio relegated to Serie B

    Serie A sides Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to the second division for their involvement in Italy's match-fixing scandal.

    Juventus were also stripped of their last two Serie A titles and had 30 points deducted, meaning they are likely to stay down for two seasons.

    AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will start the season docked 15 points.

    All are barred from playing in Europe - Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina in the Champions League; Lazio the Uefa Cup.

    Lazio were penalised seven league points while Fiorentina suffered a 12-point penalty.

    Inter, Roma, Chievo and Palermo, who finished third, fifth and seventh and eighth are in line to take the places of the penalised clubs in next season's Champions League.

    Subject to appeals, Lecce, Messina, and Treviso will avoid relegation to Serie B and keep their places in the top flight as a result of the verdict.

    But all four clubs hit out at the verdict and hinted they would appeal.

    They have three days to appeal to the Federal Court, but they may find they will run out of time to rescue their European places regardless of the outcome of any appeal because the deadline for entry is only 11 days away.


    CLUB PUNISHMENTS
    Juventus
    Relegated to Serie B
    30-point deduction for next season
    Stripped of 2005 and 2006 titles
    Out of 2006-07 Champions League
    Five-year ban for ex-general manager Luciano Moggi
    Five-year ban for ex-chief executive Antonio Giraudo
    AC Milan:
    Deducted 15 points next season
    Out of 2006-07 Champions League
    One-year ban for vice-president Adriano Galliani
    Club official Leonardo Meani banned for three years and six months
    Fiorentina:
    Relegated to Serie B
    12-point deduction next season
    Out of 2006-07 Champions League
    President Andrea Della Valle banned for three years and six months
    Four-year ban for honourary president Diego Della Valle
    Lazio:
    Relegated to Serie B
    Out of 2006-07 Uefa Cup
    7-point deduction next season
    Three-year ban for president Claudio Lotito

    The FIGC (Italian football's governing body) must hand its European counterpart Uefa the lists of teams that will be involved in its competitions by 25 July.

    Juventus president Giovanni Cobolli Gigli said: "This verdict is unheard of. We expected a balanced sentence not only in form but in substance, our expectations were different ones.

    "We could have expected relegation to the second division but to be also handed a 30-point deduction is almost like relegation to the third division. We will appeal."

    A statement on Fiorentina's official site called the decision "profoundly unjust".

    It added: "Fiorentina wishes to reiterate the absolute correctness of the club and of their own executives.

    "Fiorentina will fight with every means possible so that the truth of the facts are revealed."

    An AC Milan statement said: "AC Milan retains the decision by the CAF of extraordinary injustice.

    "We will appeal once the documents of the verdict will be available, with the certainty that the procedure will be radically modified by appeal."

    Lazio president Claudio Lotito, who was banned for three years for his part in the scandal, was fuming following the verdict.

    "I think this sentence is provisional as it's based on a theorem which is completely ridiculous," he said.

    "I will not make any decisions until a final sentence is given."

    Individuals directly involved with the scandal were also penalised.

    Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi and ex-chief executive Antonio Giraudo were suspended from football for the maximum five years, with a recommendation to the FIGC to make it for life.

    AC Milan vice-resident Adriano Galliani was suspended for one year.

    Moggi reacted by saying: "I'm not saddened for myself but for the teams involved and for their fans."

    The tribunal in Rome investigated charges that the clubs, their management, football officials and referees tried to influence the outcome of matches by interfering with the appointment of officials.

    In May, transcripts were published of telephone conversations between Moggi and Italian Football Association officials, discussing refereeing appointments in the 2004-05 season.

    FIGC prosecutor Stefano Palazzi also charged 26 individuals for sporting fraud and violating fairness and probity.

    All four clubs implicated denied the accusations.

    Thirteen of Italy's World Cup-winning squad play for the clubs involved, with five at Juventus, who also number Patrick Vieira, Lilian Thuram, David Trezeguet, Pavel Nedved and Zlatan Ibrahimovic in their ranks.

    Many of them are expected to seek transfers to other leading clubs in Italy or Europe to limit the damage to their careers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    All are barred from playing in Europe - Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina in the Champions League; Lazio the Uefa Cup.
    Do you know for how long?

    I just remember how long the English teams got after the Heysel disaster - 5 years. Why are all the Italian clubs not barred from Europe?

    Good to see some justice though.

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    Can someone explain to a clueless Yank the status of this "sports court" that reached these verdicts? Is this a government entity or something established by the football clubs themselves? Needless to say, there is no such similar court in the US.

    I think that if something similar happened in the US, the criminal courts would handle the violations of criminal law while the sports body itself would impose whatever internal penalties were thought necessary.

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    The FIGC is in charge if football in Italy, who then report to UEFA (Europe's governing body), who in turn report to FIFA (the world governing body).

    With regard to the legalities, I presume that the clubs are fighting FIGC in a normal court of law. Whether it's civil or criminal, I don't know. Maybe William could be invited in here to cast his expert eye over the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    All are barred from playing in Europe - Juventus, Milan and Fiorentina in the Champions League; Lazio the Uefa Cup.
    Do you know for how long?

    I just remember how long the English teams got after the Heysel disaster - 5 years. Why are all the Italian clubs not barred from Europe?

    Good to see some justice though.
    From what I understand they only forfeit the right to play in Europe that they earned through finishing 1 - 4 in the league. This right aparently will pass on to the next four clubs, so in essence Italian football is not being punished.

    As there is almost no likelihood of them gaining a place in Europe unless they succeed in the cups comps they won't be in Europe for a while.

    One should remember that Italian football regularly demotes clubs and the power base doesn't change.

    I haven't heard anything about civil courts being involved. Even the individuals concerned are being tried by a sports tribunal and only risk losing the right to work in football for a period!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    From what I understand they only forfeit the right to play in Europe that they earned through finishing 1 - 4 in the league. This right aparently will pass on to the next four clubs, so in essence Italian football is not being punished.
    I bet they would've been harsher on English clubs. Fucking European wankers!

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    marmite, everyone gets what he deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    From what I understand they only forfeit the right to play in Europe that they earned through finishing 1 - 4 in the league. This right aparently will pass on to the next four clubs, so in essence Italian football is not being punished.
    I bet they would've been harsher on English clubs. Fucking European wankers!
    I think you'll find it's only the Italian FA that's involved.

    But I agree, the sentences are ridiculous as were the fines.
    $100K for Juventus? Small change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    I think you'll find it's only the Italian FA that's involved. But I agree, the sentences are ridiculous as were the fines. $100K for Juventus? Small change!
    Now that they are found guilty, do you think UEFA will penalise Italian football? I doubt it.
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    What a surprise - all the punishments have been softened. Disgraceful!

    Fiorentina and Lazio will play in Italy's top flight next season after winning their appeals against relegation over match-fixing. Both clubs will start the forthcoming campaign in Serie A but with points deducted - 19 for Fiorentina and 11 for Lazio.They were facing the prospect of life in Serie B - Italy's equivalent of the Championship - with fewer points deducted.

    The appeal decision reverses the punishments handed out by the Italian Football Federation after the country's World

    Cup triumph this month.Italian champions Juventus, the most heavily implicated club, had their relegation to Serie B confirmed by the FIGC tribunal.

    However, their points handicap for the forthcoming season was slashed from 30 to 17.
    The fourth club involved in the scandal, AC Milan, escaped demotion but were originally given a points handicap of 15 points.

    This has now been cut to eight points and they will be allowed to compete in the Champions League, although they will have to play in the qualifying rounds.

    Juventus immediately announced they would not accept the outcome of their appeal. The scandal was uncovered as a result of a criminal investigation launched before the start of the 2004-05 campaign by the Naples prosecutors' office.

    Investigators based their case on tapped telephone conversations between former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi and a referees chief during the 2004-05 season.
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    There was quite a good article on this subject in this Sunday's Observer magazine:

    The Observer | Sport | Paradiso to inferno

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