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    Contact sports; too dangerous?

    I was playing football (aussie style) over the weekend. Towards the end of the game, one of the fellows injured himself, I was nearby, didnt quite see what happened, I think he just fell funny.

    However, he didn't get up, so wandered over to help, his foot was at a 90 degree angle sideways, the tibia bone pointing up. Ouch. It looked like one of those horrible worst sporting injuries emails or youtube videos. (out of respect for the guy we didnt take pictures of him.)

    It did get me thinking though, over the years, I've seen a number of damaged knees, torn or stretched hamstrings, a team mate had his head caved in (needed 3 plates in it i think) a few dislocated shoulders, broken nose, and a few concussions.

    Makes me wonder, is playing footy (or rugby) worth it? I enjoy the sport, I enjoy playing, I enjoy the contact. But makes me worry about getting a serious injury.

    Perhaps I should just work on my golf or cricket instead....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Makes me wonder, is playing footy (or rugby) worth it? I enjoy the sport, I enjoy playing, I enjoy the contact. But makes me worry about getting a serious injury.
    It's just one of those things that comes with getting older unfortunately.

    Myself, I've officially retired from rugby but then you get someone like Bobcock who still gallops around on occasion even at his advanced age. Just asking for trouble that is.
    Perhaps I should just work on my golf or cricket instead....
    Having seen your cricket I hope your golf handicaps ok!

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    OUCH! In my growing years, I've declined to participate. Though I would love to - good excercise, comradery, blah-blah. I've broken quite a number of bones in my day with assorted metal bits lodged into my body permenently....so I don't dare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Just asking for trouble that is.
    That's right, I'm beginning to think that amateur sports invites injury.

    We were not real impressed with the 2 clowns from the expat hospital that we on hand as part of our sponsorship deal with a health insurance company.

    They wanted to remove shoe and sock, twist foot into correct position and place an inflatable splint over the lot.

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    My old man always told me if you go into a tackle scared your going to get hurt you normally will get hurt.

    When you consider the number of serious injuries and when compared to the athletes playing contact sport the ratio of injuries are very low.

    Play the game hard but fair, make sure your physically up for the sport you wish to play and just go out and enjoy yourself.

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    Loy Toy is right, I admit to holding back a bit these days and there is no doubt you are far more likely to get hurt doing so.

    I play rarely these days, I'm waiting to be able to play real veterans, because veterans (over 35) is still very physical. I mean there are guys playing the pro game at 35, the age for veterans should be increased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    My old man always told me if you go into a tackle scared your going to get hurt you normally will get hurt.
    true.

    but in this case, it wasnt a tackle, we was trying to mark the ball.

    last concussion I saw was in a game of rugby an aussie rules player take on a fast moving prop head on. he wasnt scared. he should have been.

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    I've stopped playing rugby for similar reasons. If you get badly injured here you don't have the same safety net that you might have back home (unless you're a Seppo), even if you've got health insurance.

    I'll play the occasional Oldies game but that's it.

    The worst injury I saw was when playing football back in the UK. The local 'hard-nut' got tackled by the local gentleman who was also of retirement age and both bones in the 'hard-nut's' lower leg snapped. It sounded like a perspex ruler snapping.

    It just demonstrated how easily injuries like this can happen.

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    If you workout, train regularly. You'll be OK. Just learn to run faster that all.
    When fit you will minimize the onset of injuries.
    Rugby separate the boys from the men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    but in this case, it wasnt a tackle, we was trying to mark the ball.
    Of course there are freak accidents where your body is travelling in one direction and your other body part is going in the other direction. Things just break sometimes and that is a fact of life.

    I have been asked to play for the Bangkok Bangers Rugby team and to be honest I would have to go on a very strict diet and exercise plan just to consider it (not that I am particularly over weight).

    After you reach 40 all your muscles start to lose their structure and you need to work at it to keep them in order.

    My mind is up for it but the old body probably would not last 5 minutes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate View Post
    Rugby separate the boys from the men.
    Here that means fit and fast Thai boys running rings around the old, fat, unfit and slow farang men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Here that means fit and fast Thai boys running rings around the old, fat, unfit and slow farang men.
    Until they get caught and hit hard! Then they don't want to know about it anymore!

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    Reckon any "sport" can be dangerous whether contact or otherwise. Injuries in golf, tennis, track and the like are common. Even the most fit can get injuries.

    Sport or any physical activity has risk. IMO, the benefits of sport far outweigh the risks. So, as to the OP, contact sport is not too dangerous.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Here that means fit and fast Thai boys running rings around the old, fat, unfit and slow farang men.
    Until they get caught and hit hard! Then they don't want to know about it anymore!
    True, but catching them is the problem!

    Actually the impetus for my retirement came in circmstances similar to the above. I had the outside break on a Thai guy - probably a clear 7m to the touchline - put on the after-burners, there was a coughing and spluttering as they misfired, and I realised that despite all the room there was no way I had the pace to take him. So I simply cut back inside and smashed him over (I was over 100kg at that stage).

    Actually there's a picture I have that perfectly captures the whole moment, taken at precisely the time I thought 'fock, I'm too old for this shit!'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    I have been asked to play for the Bangkok Bangers Rugby team
    Get in quick, we are playing you soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Until they get caught and hit hard! Then they don't want to know about it anymore!
    in fairness, not true, the Thai boys who play rugby play hard and well. It's the nature of the sport, not the beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    in fairness, not true, the Thai boys who play rugby play hard and well. It's the nature of the sport, not the beast.
    I agree with that. There's even some big lads who are decent forwards. What lets them down is the fact they don't have the organisational skills to play rugby well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Get in quick, we are playing you soon.
    I would have to prepare for at least a year mate but don't get me wrong I would love to get my hands on you (in a non gay type of way)!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    in fairness, not true, the Thai boys who play rugby play hard and well.
    The Thais jink and dart around the place and I agree a lot of them are very good.
    What I am saying is when you legally hit someone really hard with a legit ball and all tackle they are not as keen to take the ball up next time.

    I have noticed this with the Thais and to be fair that is the best (and often only way) to beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    What I am saying is when you legally hit someone really hard with a legit ball and all tackle they are not as keen to take the ball up next time. I have noticed this with the Thais and to be fair that is the best (and often only way) to beat them.
    quite true. make them think about it more carefully the next time.

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    bit rough this lot...

    One man dead, another injured in knife fight near Melbourne
    NINE men have been arrested after a 20-year-old man was killed and another critically injured in a fight at a football ground west of Melbourne.

    Police said the men involved were both stabbed in the fight, which happened about 6pm (AEDT) at Diggers Rest yesterday.
    Homicide squad detectives arrested and were interviewing nine men, with police believing the fight happened between two groups known to each other.
    The stabbed pair, both from Diggers Rest, were taken to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a critical condition.
    The 20-year-old man died a short time later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    One man dead, another injured in knife fight near Melbourne NINE men have been arrested after a 20-year-old man was killed and another critically injured in a fight at a football ground west of Melbourne.
    Seems watching sport is far more dangerous than participation.

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    ^^ What type of match was that KW?

    Sound like Gaelic Football to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    ^^ What type of match was that KW?
    e

    Aussie rules, but out that way - seriously trailer park trash.

    to be expected really.

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