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Marmite the Dog · 25-08-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Auntie

Mr Brown has been in talks with football's governing body Fifa

Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond has rejected the idea of a British Olympic football team, describing the proposal as a "massive own goal".

The Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland football bodies have opposed any such move in case it affects their status within governing body Fifa.

But Gordon Brown has said he wants to have both men's and women's teams playing at the London Games in 2012.

Mr Salmond said Mr Brown must be "seriously out of touch with Scotland".

"The whole concept's ridiculous and only could be put forward by somebody who's seriously out of touch with Scotland," he said.

There has been no British Olympic team since 1960, partly because of fears it could jeopardise individual sides.

The prime minister, who has suggested Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson could manage the side, has been speaking with world football's governing body, Fifa, to reach an agreement on establishing British football teams.

He said he would be surprised if there was not a team from the country which invented football competing on home turf in 2012.

Who on earth would really want to jeopardise or sacrifice the future of Scotland as an international football country

"I am determined to work with the football associations and the International Olympic Committee to ensure that, when we come to 2012, we have a men's football team and we have a women's football team playing," he said.

Football fans' groups from Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland have spoken out against Mr Brown's proposal - opposition which Mr Salmond said would "send him homewards to think again".

The first minister told BBC Scotland: "Who on earth would really want to jeopardise or sacrifice the future of Scotland as an international football country so we could have a couple of players in an under-23 team in four years' time?"

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has suggested that it would be better for Britain to field a team entirely made up of English players because "this will then not provoke a long and endless discussion of the four British associations and all the best players are English anyway".

Acting Scottish Labour leader Cathy Jamieson has set out an alternative to the prime minister's plan.

She has suggested a home nations play-off, with the winner going forward to play as the British team.

Ms Jamieson, a contender for her party's vacant leadership post, said it would be wrong to lose Scotland's place in international football for the sake of entering a British football team in the next Olympics.

She told BBC Scotland there was plenty of time to discuss different approaches, adding: "I've put an option on the table, I'm sure the prime minister wants to ensure Scotland's future as an international footballing nation - let's have the debate."

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Salmond rejects UK football team

When will this bullshit about England, Scotland, Wales & NI being 'countries' cease? The country is the UK and should be represented as such. The UK would be much stronger without these blinkered bigots trying to drive wedges between everyone.

Queue Begbie...

buriramboy · 25-08-2008, 06:27 PM

At the end of the day, how many NI, Scots or Welsh would get into a GBR team anyway?? Maybe Giggs up until a few years ago, but i can't think of any others.

The Fresh Prince · 25-08-2008, 06:34 PM

You may as well just take all the best players from Scot-Ni and Wales and give the rest of the spots on the squad to the Brits.

We'd still probably have 9 spots.

I can't see the problem. Might even make England win if Fergie heads it up.

Mr Pot · 25-08-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

At the end of the day, how many NI, Scots or Welsh would get into a GBR team anyway?? Maybe Giggs up until a few years ago, but i can't think of any others.

Couldn't agree more; how proud would I be to see England's performances on the olympic stage right now

meepho · 26-08-2008, 05:39 AM

[quote=Marmite the Dog;733609]

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Originally Posted by Auntie

seriously out of touch with Scotland," he said.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Salmond rejects UK football team

When will this bullshit about England, Scotland, Wales & NI being 'countries' cease? The country is the UK and should be represented as such. The UK would be much stronger without these blinkered bigots trying to drive wedges between everyone.

Queue Begbie...

common sense is never going to be one of the uk's strong points, as stated to many bigots and feathernest building going on.
the politicians and power people DEFINATELY do not think about a commongoal only thier own personal agenda [ and press time ]

the uk side
1 nigerian
4 poles
3 muslims
2 pakistanis
1 indian
1 british sub

so we do not upset too many people of course

bkkandrew · 26-08-2008, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Queue Begbie...

Er, that would be cue...

Or his he queueing up to make a comment?

Begbie · 26-08-2008, 06:29 AM

Thanks Andrew

Basically another Troll thread from Madmite.

The reason that Scoland doesn't want to participate in a combined olympic team is that it would endanger the status of our professional international team. I can't see any other country wanting to lose their international team status so why should we.

Probably the best idea is to have a competition and let the winning international team represent "Britain".

As for Gordon Brown, this is another example of his habit of trying to damage Scotland in a vain attempt to rally his popular support in England. As a result he's managed to make himself unpopular in both countries.

good2bhappy · 26-08-2008, 07:43 AM

In every other event at the Olympics there was a combined team.
I think it was a great shame we didn't have a football team representing the country.
In true Olympian Spirit we should shut put away our political differences and play the beautiful game together as one nation that we are.

Begbie · 26-08-2008, 08:01 AM

g2bh

Who is this "we" ?

If you want a combined team maybe you should contact the Germans. You'd also increase your chances of winning.

good2bhappy · 26-08-2008, 08:18 AM

^ excuse me
we=UK citizens

CharleyFarley · 26-08-2008, 09:00 AM

Wasn't it a GB team in It's a Knockout with Stuart Storey and Eddie Waring.

Fantastic program and great support.

"now its time for the mini marathon, can I play the Joker now ?"

Marmite the Dog · 26-08-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Who is this "we" ?

Oh dear. Still living in the 18th century I see.

Begbie · 26-08-2008, 01:17 PM

No Marmaduke but you seem to be.

If you can bother your arse to read the article that you posted you'll note that the first minister is against this. I agree with him and I'm sure public opinion in Scotland is on his side.

The Scottish government is against this idea. Where do you get off trying to tell us what to do ?

EmperorTud · 26-08-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

At the end of the day, how many NI, Scots or Welsh would get into a GBR team anyway??

McFadden and Gordon for Scotland for sure.

If you are counting on a false sense of national superiority and over-paid individual superstars though we'll lose 3-0 at home just like an England side.

The Fresh Prince · 26-08-2008, 02:18 PM

We're never going to convince these fukers join the U.K team so lets just stick a load of T.N.T along the great wall of Scotland and blow our connections and let them float away.

The Fresh Prince · 26-08-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Where do you get off trying to tell us what to do ?

We're not we're just trying to talk about it.

Marmite the Dog · 26-08-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Begbie

If you can bother your arse to read the article that you posted you'll note that the first minister is against this. I agree with him and I'm sure public opinion in Scotland is on his side.

Public opinion would be the same in all areas of the UK, but that's what happens when people read rags like The Sun. Hopefully, there are less bigoted fools nowadays and people can have a sensible discussion about improving the UK by putting aside our differences (even though there really aren't any) and make everyone's lives better by being united.

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Where do you get off trying to tell us what to do ?

Maybe not then.

Crunchie · 26-08-2008, 06:36 PM

If it could be guaranteed we wouldn't lose our right to compete as Scotland in other tournaments no one would give a shit about a British Olympic team. But that Sepp Blatter is a sneaky bastard and I wouldn't believe a word he says.

ChiangMai noon · 26-08-2008, 06:49 PM

I'm not against it as a one off for the olympic games as long as it doesn't go beyond that.

rugby manages to have a british Lions team every few years and we retain the national teams.

Red dragon · 26-08-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

At the end of the day, how many NI, Scots or Welsh would get into a GBR team anyway?? Maybe Giggs up until a few years ago, but i can't think of any others.

What a stupid comment

Are you forgetting it is U-23 football??

Alot of the players who will be in that squad you probably don't even know of!!

Aaron Ramsey and Joe Allen would be in the squad I imagine & our young goal keeper at Chelsea Rhys Taylor would be in with a good shout who will all be under 23 at the time of next Olympics.

The Welsh lads get a decent chance of playing first team football at a young age at Cardiff City unlike the poor English lads being f*cked over in the premiership by the managers buying the foreigners

All depends on the youngsters and how they are at the time.

25-08-2008, 06:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
buriramboy Elite Member Last Online: Today 10:11 AM Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nern Plub Waan Posts: 1,934	At the end of the day, how many NI, Scots or Welsh would get into a GBR team anyway?? Maybe Giggs up until a few years ago, but i can't think of any others. Last edited by buriramboy : 25-08-2008 at 06:35 PM.

26-08-2008, 07:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
good2bhappy Senior Member Last Online: Today 10:10 AM Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Klong Samwa Posts: 5,313	In every other event at the Olympics there was a combined team. I think it was a great shame we didn't have a football team representing the country. In true Olympian Spirit we should shut put away our political differences and play the beautiful game together as one nation that we are. Last edited by good2bhappy : 26-08-2008 at 07:51 AM.

25-08-2008, 06:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
The Fresh Prince Elite Member Last Online: Today 09:26 AM Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Not in the willage Posts: 1,103	You may as well just take all the best players from Scot-Ni and Wales and give the rest of the spots on the squad to the Brits. We'd still probably have 9 spots. I can't see the problem. Might even make England win if Fergie heads it up.

26-08-2008, 06:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Begbie Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:51 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 5,554	Thanks Andrew Basically another Troll thread from Madmite. The reason that Scoland doesn't want to participate in a combined olympic team is that it would endanger the status of our professional international team. I can't see any other country wanting to lose their international team status so why should we. Probably the best idea is to have a competition and let the winning international team represent "Britain". As for Gordon Brown, this is another example of his habit of trying to damage Scotland in a vain attempt to rally his popular support in England. As a result he's managed to make himself unpopular in both countries.

26-08-2008, 08:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
Begbie Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:51 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 5,554	g2bh Who is this "we" ? If you want a combined team maybe you should contact the Germans. You'd also increase your chances of winning.

26-08-2008, 08:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
good2bhappy Senior Member Last Online: Today 10:10 AM Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Klong Samwa Posts: 5,313	^ excuse me we=UK citizens

26-08-2008, 09:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
CharleyFarley Tiger Bay Last Online: Today 10:11 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: aberthin Posts: 1,171	Wasn't it a GB team in It's a Knockout with Stuart Storey and Eddie Waring. Fantastic program and great support. "now its time for the mini marathon, can I play the Joker now ?"

26-08-2008, 01:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Begbie Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:51 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 5,554	No Marmaduke but you seem to be. If you can bother your arse to read the article that you posted you'll note that the first minister is against this. I agree with him and I'm sure public opinion in Scotland is on his side. The Scottish government is against this idea. Where do you get off trying to tell us what to do ?

26-08-2008, 02:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
The Fresh Prince Elite Member Last Online: Today 09:26 AM Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Not in the willage Posts: 1,103	We're never going to convince these fukers join the U.K team so lets just stick a load of T.N.T along the great wall of Scotland and blow our connections and let them float away.

26-08-2008, 06:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
Crunchie Chachoengsao Last Online: Yesterday 04:02 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 433	If it could be guaranteed we wouldn't lose our right to compete as Scotland in other tournaments no one would give a shit about a British Olympic team. But that Sepp Blatter is a sneaky bastard and I wouldn't believe a word he says.

26-08-2008, 06:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 25,348	I'm not against it as a one off for the olympic games as long as it doesn't go beyond that. rugby manages to have a british Lions team every few years and we retain the national teams.