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    Luton to start season -30 points.

    What a mess and what a pity.

    Luton to face 30-point deduction


    Luton will start next season on an unprecedented minus 30 points after a ruling by the Football League.

    The Hatters had already been deducted 10 points by the Football Association after being found guilty of misconduct for paying agents via a third party.

    And the company which will take over the club has now been told it must accept a further 20-point deduction in order to be allowed in the League.

    The penalty came after Luton failed to satisfy the League's insolvency rules.

    The combined 30-point deduction is the biggest in Football League history, giving Luton an extraordinarily difficult task in trying to avoid relegation for the third season in a row. Bookmakers have already made them 10-1 on favourites to drop down to the Blue Square Premier League.

    But the club is appealing against the FA's 10-point deduction for financial irregularities in regard to its dealings with agents, with the case set to be heard next week.

    The 20-point additional penalty related to the club's inability to agree a Company Voluntary Agreement (CVA) to exit administration, with the Football League pointing out that this is the third time in 10 years that Luton have been in such a position.


    Once again a policy of honesty is not recognised at all by the footballing authorities who claim they want to clean up the game


    The Football League board also imposed the condition that Luton Town 2020 (LT2020), the new holding company, must pay any unsecured creditors 16p in the pound and asked it to forego any right of appeal.

    director Stephen Browne said the club was still being punished for the mistakes of the previous regime in charge at Kenilworth Road.

    "We have tried to do everything openly and honestly and we placed our faith in the footballing authorities," said Browne, whose consortium is still in talks with the administrator.

    "Obviously the very clear message from both the FA and the Football League is that doing such a thing is a total waste of time.

    "Once again the faithful supporters are left high and dry and once again a policy of honesty is not recognised at all by the footballing authorities who claim they want to clean up the game."

    But Football League chairman Brian Mawhinney said the board had little option but to take a strong line with Luton.

    "The board's primary responsibility is to protect the integrity of their competitions," said Mahwinney.



    Browne said that the consortium, fronted by BBC presenter Nick Owen, would not give up despite the points deduction representing a serious setback.

    "We will continue the fight by sticking to our principles of openness and honesty," he said.

    "People who should, in theory at least, be protecting supporters will not bring us down.

    "It's not a laughing matter any more, but even so we will continue to ensure that Luton have a solid and sustainable future, despite what the Football League do to us."

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    The FA are clueless with regard to the law. Surely the previous chairman should be punished rather than the club again.

    Oh well, at leat we'll get a derby against Stevenage.

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    ^I agree, how is punishing the club and fans going to help with financial higgery pokery. Whoever did it should get punished and removed from football for life.

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    Cardiff managed to stave off administration last year by a whisker.

    things are suddenly looking healthy.

    selling Ramsay for 5 million and signing a pile of free dross has helped.

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    Few lads I met following England are Luton so it's obviously a massive shitter for them.

    However, I am sure Boston were charged with something similar and they got relegated two divisions so really they were let off lightly.

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    ^^
    Cardiff are still heavily in debt, just managed to put off the loan payments to bushy eyebrwed C*nt Hammam.
    Peter Ridsdale got a 500,000 pound bonus on top of his salary for his work at the club this year despite the clubs massive debts, luckily he invested the money back into the club otherwise would have caused big problems.
    I think it's wrong what they are doing to Luton, the new owners are being f&cked over for something they had no involvment in.
    more and more clubs are being found guilty of financial irregularities these days and I think they are trying to make an exmple of Luton.
    I think the FA need to look at themselves also as I feel they only look after the top flight clubs, the lower leagues are suffering financially and not enough is being done to help some of these great clubs with great history going out of business, Marmite supports Luton and CB79 supports Coventry and these were both big clubs when I was a lad and it's sad to see the way Luton and other clubs going out of business and maybe only a matter of time before the likes of Coventry and Cardiff follow suit unless a billionaire comes in and invests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red dragon
    Peter Ridsdale got a 500,000 pound bonus on top of his salary for his work at the club this year despite the clubs massive debts, luckily he invested the money back into the club otherwise would have caused big problems.
    yes, that was odd.

    could have just by passed the middle man.

    with Fowler off to Blackburn, that will save about 20,000 a week and a shitload in medical bills.

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    I think the way the club is going he sees it as free shares in the club as an investment, he invested knowing the uproar it would have caused if he had just accepted the cash and played safe.

    Fowler was brought in to sell tickets and shirts I think more than anything, at one point he was scoring goals and looked exciting times but as we all feared injury struck again and of course the club spent alot of money in his surgery & rehab then declared himself fit for the FA Cup final but didn't make the squad, after the club has got him back to fitness at their expense he has f*cked off, don't know how much playing time he will get at Blackburn and thats if he gets a contract at all. The one thing he did do for Cardiff was show the ambition of the club and raise our profile.


    30 points is a massive handicap for Luton, usually I wouldn't give 2 f*cks about that club or league (no offense Marmite) but now I would really love to see them avoid relegation and do well.
    Would be great if premiership chairmen and managers found it very harsh and decided to loan a few fringe players to Luton and them win every game it would be a great big f*ck you to the English FA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red dragon View Post
    ^^
    Cardiff are still heavily in debt, just managed to put off the loan payments to bushy eyebrwed C*nt Hammam.
    Peter Ridsdale got a 500,000 pound bonus on top of his salary for his work at the club this year despite the clubs massive debts, luckily he invested the money back into the club otherwise would have caused big problems.
    I think it's wrong what they are doing to Luton, the new owners are being f&cked over for something they had no involvment in.
    more and more clubs are being found guilty of financial irregularities these days and I think they are trying to make an exmple of Luton.
    I think the FA need to look at themselves also as I feel they only look after the top flight clubs, the lower leagues are suffering financially and not enough is being done to help some of these great clubs with great history going out of business, Marmite supports Luton and CB79 supports Coventry and these were both big clubs when I was a lad and it's sad to see the way Luton and other clubs going out of business and maybe only a matter of time before the likes of Coventry and Cardiff follow suit unless a billionaire comes in and invests.
    We were 30 minutes away from administration last season until Ray Ranson and his mob stepped in. They only did this if a large amunt of debts were wiped off the club that was owed to shareholders (one lost close on 18 mill) and everyone had to give up their shares to give them complete control. Which eventually they did.

    We are still not out of shit streak though as we don't own our stadium so don't make any money from the stadium apart from gate receipts. This includes food, beer, money from the numerous gigs held there (Bon Jovi, Rod Stewart etc.) so are still accumalating (sp) debt and this will continue to happen until we are in a position to buy (at least half) of our stadium back.

    Although, I do feel sorry for Luton and any other club in their position (including us) the FA can't just keep bailing them out and until clubs learn to spend within their means then this isn't going to happen and the rich will keep getting richer and the poor getting poorer and unfortunately this means more clubs going bust over the next few years.

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    the original 10 pt. penalty was enough for the over officious f.a. to impose.
    they seem to not realise that a local football club is very important to the
    healthy wellbeing of the community.
    i realise these unelected fools must justify their positions but unfortuneatly
    these ocurrences will no doubt continue.
    next season i hope it is not my club.

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    ^ which is??

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    the peoples club, sponsored by an awful thai beer brewery.

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    That's sick. Compare this to the Italian scandal and those club's fines/deduction of points..

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    CB79 has pretty much said all there is regarding Coventry and regarding others in the same situation as us Cov; last season was my most painful ever. Terrible situation Marmers, keep the faith.

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    FA to probe Luton crowd trouble




    The Football Association has launched an investigation into crowd trouble at the end of Luton's League Two clash against Bradford on Saturday.
    Missiles were thrown at referee Trevor Kettle after he awarded a late penalty that gave Bradford a 3-3 draw and sent off Luton's Chris Martin.
    An FA spokesman told BBC Sport: "We are looking into the incident involving the referee at the end of the game."
    Luton started the season with minus 30 points and are bottom of the league.
    The draw with Bradford took their points total into positive figures for the first time this season.
    However, the Hatters will be hoping they do not face a further points penalty for the incident after being deducted 30 points by the Football League before a ball was kicked.



    They were docked 10 points after being found guilty of misconduct for paying agents via a third party and a further 20 points for failing to satisfy the League's insolvency rules.
    Any further points deduction would end Luton's hopes of avoiding relegation to the Blue Square Premier, with the club currently 19 points adrift of third-from-bottom Grimsby.
    It is unclear whether that outcome is likely, although the FA is eager for action to be taken against those individuals involved in the incident.
    The FA spokesman continued: "Mention of missiles being thrown was brought to our attention in the referee's report. "We will be liaising with the club and the police to try to identify individuals. "We want to see the strongest possible sanctions taken against those people who may have been involved in this incident."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red dragon
    The draw with Bradford took their points total into positive figures for the first time this season.
    Oh, happy days...

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    A FITTING FAIRWELL TO LUTON TOWN





    Luton 1-1 Brighton (aet)


    Luton win 4-3 on penalties
    Luton players celebrate victory at the final whistle


    Luton gave their fans some joy by booking their place in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy final with a dramatic 4-3 penalty shoot-out win over Brighton.
    Tom Craddock scored early for Luton after a mix up in the Brighton defence.
    Nicky Forster drilled home an equaliser for Brighton, who then had David Livermore sent off for a bad foul.
    Luton, rooted to the foot of League Two after being docked 30 points, had keeper Lewis Price to thank as he emerged the hero in the shoot-out.
    The on-loan Derby keeper saved from Chris Birchall and Jason Jarrett to see Luton go through to face Scunthorpe in the final at Wembley.
    The game could have turned out very different had Nicky Forster scored with the visitors first real effort after 20 minutes.
    The striker dragged his shot wide though after he had been played in by Dean Cox. The result was a fair reflection on Luton's dominance in the second half, thanks largely to the sending off of Livermore. They were though restricted to long-range efforts and the closest they came to scoring was when Kuipers pushed aside Chris Martin's 20-yard strike in stoppage time.





    Will you be there to cheer on the boys at Wembley Marmite in what will almost certainly be your last season in the football league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red dragon
    Will you be there to cheer on the boys at Wembley Marmite in what will almost certainly be your last season in the football league?
    Nope.

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    Hats off to Luton (pun intended) for winning the final of the Johnstone Paint trophy at Wembley 3-2AET yesterday.
    Almost certain to be relegated out of the football league this season yet still managed a big day out at Wembley and ending up with some silverware in the cabinet.
    with 6 games left to play (18 points available) and 12 points from safety seems an impossible task but should they manage it surely would go down as the greatest escape in football.

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    Well done to the lads and they've made a great effort this year to try and do the impossible.

    It's not over 'till me mum starts singing though...

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    I don't suppose I've got a hope in hell of finding a torrent of the game.

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    Luton 3-2 Scunthorpe (aet)

    By Paul Fletcher
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    Claude Gnakpa scored an extra-time winner as relegation-threatened Luton Town defeated Scunthorpe United to win the Johnstone's Paint Trophy in arguably the best game of football seen at the rebuilt Wembley.

    The French defender, playing in an advanced position after coming on as an 85th-minute substitute, ran on to a long pass and lifted the ball over advancing keeper Joe Murphy to seal a famous victory for the beleaguered League Two club.

    Gary Hooper had put League One promotion candidates Scunthorpe in front with a superb low shot across goal before Chris Martin equalised after running on to a cross from Tom Craddock and steering the ball beyond Murphy.

    Craddock, who should have been sent off after he floored Cliff Byrne in an off-the-ball incident, put the Hatters ahead with a crisp half-volley before Grant McCann equalised close to full-time with a spectacular first-time strike.
    Luton manager Mick Harford

    All five goals were worthy of any Wembley final - and the match provided rich entertainment for the 55,378 inside the stadium.

    But ultimately the day belonged to the Hatters, who started the League Two season with a 30-point penalty and, currently 12 points from safety, face the prospect of relegation from the Football League at the end of the campaign.

    Luton fans vastly outnumbered their Iron counterparts and mercilessly booed Football League chairman Brian Mawhinney as he was introduced to the teams before the match.

    But once the final started it was Scunthorpe who immediately caught the eye, showing a confidence and intent that soon had their opponents on the back foot.

    It took a brilliant last-ditch tackle from Lewis Emanuel to prevent McCann from shooting at goal while Dean Brill parried a crisp low strike from Matt Sparrow after an audacious Henri Lansbury backheel had created the opening.

    The Hatters struggled against the crisp passing and swift movement of their opponents but almost opened the scoring after one of their rare early attacks.

    Luton's extra-time victory over Scunthorpe was a breathtaking encounter, worthy of any final

    Martin hooked man of the match Kevin Nicholls' corner towards goal but was denied by a clearance from Krystian Pearce.

    Scunthorpe's early dominance was eventually rewarded with the opening goal after Paul Hayes flicked the ball into the path of Hooper, who brilliantly drilled his low strike across goal and into the bottom corner from 20 yards.

    George Pilkington executed a perfectly timed last-ditch challenge to deny Hooper while the combative Nicholls made a sensational headed clearance off the line to thwart Lansbury as the Iron went in search of a second.

    But Luton's gritty determination to stay in the contest paid dividends when they equalised just after the half-hour mark.

    Martin burst forward to collect a cross from Craddock, before taking the ball beyond the Iron defence with his first touch and beating Murphy with his second.

    The match was developing into a very entertaining final but unfortunately the opening half ended on an unsavoury note after Craddock floored Iron skipper Byrne. Replays suggested Craddock's slap on Byrne was deliberate.

    Martin might have put Luton ahead in the early minutes of the second half but, with plenty of time to control the ball, he tried to spectacularly volley Rossi Jarvis's header back across goal into the roof of the net and made a complete hash of it.

    Pearce narrowly missed from a corner for Scunthorpe, while a surging run and shot from Lansbury drew a superb block from Nicholls as the match started to ebb and flow.

    But although Scunthorpe enjoyed most of the possession, with plenty of touches in and around the Luton box, they increasingly lacked an end product and it came as no huge surprise when the Hatters took the lead.

    The ball, half-cleared, dropped to Craddock on the edge of the area and after controlling it on his chest he drilled it beyond Murphy with a crisp strike on the half-volley.

    The Scunthorpe fans tried to rouse their team with chants of "Iron, Iron, Iron" and Lansbury hit the crossbar from six yards.

    But just as it started to seem as though Luton would close out the contest, McCann's curling first-time strike into the top corner restored parity for the League One side.

    Hooper failed to make clean contact with a good chance early in extra-time while Gnakpa was denied by a covering challenge from David Mirfin.

    However, Harford's decision to bring on Gnakpa in an advanced position paid off when the Frenchman charged on to Keith Keane's long pass up field and lifted the ball over Murphy for the winner.

    What Sunday said was that everyone connected with Luton has the desire and determination to clear what further hurdles lie in front of them. It spoke of a club that has been battered and bruised but whose soul remains intact.

    Or, to leave the last word to Owen: "It says that there are a lot of people who care about this football club. That they will not be ground into the dust by the authorities."

    BBC SPORT | Football | Luton 3-2 Scunthorpe (aet)

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    Good win for Luton.

    Must bring back fond memories of the Arsenal League cup win back in the late 80's.

    Carcking game that was too. 3-2 too Luton.

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    Cracking game to be fair.

    And listening to Nick Owen after they look like everything is in place to get back into the league the season after next.

    Best of luck to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB79
    And listening to Nick Owen after they look like everything is in place to get back into the league the season after next.
    That's if they can keep most of their squad together. They will sell players if a fair price is offered, but hopefully most of the team will stay and get them out of there.

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